Final Fantasy is the most OVERATED pile of GARBAGE. No it will not save PS3

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#51 PannicAtack
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It's the third best-selling series of all time, right behind Mario and Pokemon, and ahead of GTA and Zelda, and it has a very large following. And "average" scores? Almost every game in the series has scored AA-AAA. >_>
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#52 UndyingVayne
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[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldGQ_Smoothie07

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

 

So what other games sell better than? 8 million is pretty darn big. All I can think of is HALO and GTA that are the system sellers if your going by sales. 

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#53 hip-hop-cola
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i agree final fantasy sucks... but the ps3 dont need saving, its got killzone, mgs4, warhawk and a load of others that can do that job just fine:roll:
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#54 gfhgfhtutyutyut
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Spoken like someone who

a) doesn't own a PS3

and b) hasn't played a Final Fantasy game.

Let go of that envy dude. It's going to give you an ulcer.



:o2largeadults

lol, final fantasy sucks always hated it.

the franchise shouldnt even be made anymore.

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#56 gfhgfhtutyutyut
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i agree final fantasy sucks... but the ps3 dont need saving, its got killzone, mgs4, warhawk and a load of others that can do that job just fine:roll:hip-hop-cola

those games arent good enough.

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#57 UndyingVayne
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i agree final fantasy sucks... but the ps3 dont need saving, its got killzone, mgs4, warhawk and a load of others that can do that job just fine:roll:hip-hop-cola

 

Killzone 2 has much more of a chance of flopping than Final Fantasy 13, you only have to play the last game in the series to know that. 

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#58 UndyingVayne
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[QUOTE="2largeadults"]Spoken like someone who

a) doesn't own a PS3

and b) hasn't played a Final Fantasy game.

Let go of that envy dude. It's going to give you an ulcer.



:ogfhgfhtutyutyut

lol, final fantasy sucks always hated it.

the franchise shouldnt even be made anymore.

 

oh look TCs alt.  Hi! 

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#60 axt113
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[QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles sold-RPGamer-

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

:| Two games pull off over 8 million copies and that's not some amazing accomplishment? Wow.

By your statements no titles on the PS2 ever really did well, they're all some small percentage of the overall user base.

FF sells to pretty much the same people all the time, in addition that's less than 8% of the fanbase bought it at its peak, FF12 only sold about 5 million so its in decline
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#61 a-tek
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Final Fantasy is the only RPG I care to play, other than Oblivion.
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldaxt113

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

:| Two games pull off over 8 million copies and that's not some amazing accomplishment? Wow.

By your statements no titles on the PS2 ever really did well, they're all some small percentage of the overall user base.

FF sells to pretty much the same people all the time, in addition that's less than 8% of the fanbase bought it at its peak, FF12 only sold about 5 million so its in decline

One could have said the same around the time of FF IX.
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#63 axt113
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[QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldUndyingVayne

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

 

So what other games sell better than? 8 million is pretty darn big. All I can think of is HALO and GTA that are the system sellers if your going by sales. 

Nintendogs, NSMB, Brain training, etc. all sell in that range or better on the DS, a console with less than half the base so far
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#64 axt113
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldtegovoltio

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

:| Two games pull off over 8 million copies and that's not some amazing accomplishment? Wow.

By your statements no titles on the PS2 ever really did well, they're all some small percentage of the overall user base.

FF sells to pretty much the same people all the time, in addition that's less than 8% of the fanbase bought it at its peak, FF12 only sold about 5 million so its in decline

One could have said the same around the time of FF IX.

FF9 wasn't considered by most to be that great by comparison FF12 was considered amazing by most and yet it still didn't sell that great
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#65 tegovoltio
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[QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldaxt113

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

:| Two games pull off over 8 million copies and that's not some amazing accomplishment? Wow.

By your statements no titles on the PS2 ever really did well, they're all some small percentage of the overall user base.

FF sells to pretty much the same people all the time, in addition that's less than 8% of the fanbase bought it at its peak, FF12 only sold about 5 million so its in decline

One could have said the same around the time of FF IX.

FF9 wasn't considered by most to be that great by comparison FF12 was considered amazing by most and yet it still didn't sell that great

Umm well I thought we were discussing sales not which are the best FFs....and a lot of ppl consider FF IX great.
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#66 axt113
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldtegovoltio

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

:| Two games pull off over 8 million copies and that's not some amazing accomplishment? Wow.

By your statements no titles on the PS2 ever really did well, they're all some small percentage of the overall user base.

FF sells to pretty much the same people all the time, in addition that's less than 8% of the fanbase bought it at its peak, FF12 only sold about 5 million so its in decline

One could have said the same around the time of FF IX.

FF9 wasn't considered by most to be that great by comparison FF12 was considered amazing by most and yet it still didn't sell that great

Umm well I thought we were discussing sales not which are the best FFs....and a lot of ppl consider FF IX great.

Yeah but quality can affect sales, and the fact that FF12 is an excellent iteration of the series and yet sold so relatively poorly seems to indicate that the popularity of the series is in decline
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#67 -RPGamer-
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldaxt113

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

:| Two games pull off over 8 million copies and that's not some amazing accomplishment? Wow.

By your statements no titles on the PS2 ever really did well, they're all some small percentage of the overall user base.



FF sells to pretty much the same people all the time, in addition that's less than 8% of the fanbase bought it at its peak, FF12 only sold about 5 million so its in decline

Isn't that intent of a franchise? It's overly redundant to say that a series sells to pretty much the same people. Of course it does that, is there any series in gaming that doesn't attract many of the previous gamers that played it before?

How many other games series can claim such high sales between two releases? Not many.

Further more ,one game isn't enough to show a trend such as "declining".

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#68 tegovoltio
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[QUOTE="axt113"] Yeah but quality can affect sales, and the fact that FF12 is an excellent iteration of the series and yet sold so relatively poorly seems to indicate that the popularity of the series is in decline

Yea but there are other reasons to the demise in sales than that, next-gen crazy split fan base on this one etc..... You can clearly see that FF XIII hype is way above XII.
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[QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

[QUOTE="axt113"]Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldaxt113

Thank you my point EXACTLY. It has mainly sold to that diehard group but other then that it's not the mega selling game. Just FF7 was. But yeah like this guy says 100 million PS2 and only about 8 million FF games sold that's not a god percentage at all really. It's just that tight nit group buying the game.

:| Two games pull off over 8 million copies and that's not some amazing accomplishment? Wow.

By your statements no titles on the PS2 ever really did well, they're all some small percentage of the overall user base.



FF sells to pretty much the same people all the time, in addition that's less than 8% of the fanbase bought it at its peak, FF12 only sold about 5 million so its in decline



One could have said the same around the time of FF IX.



FF9 wasn't considered by most to be that great by comparison FF12 was considered amazing by most and yet it still didn't sell that great



Umm well I thought we were discussing sales not which are the best FFs....and a lot of ppl consider FF IX great.



Yeah but quality can affect sales, and the fact that FF12 is an excellent iteration of the series and yet sold so relatively poorly seems to indicate that the popularity of the series is in decline

Sold poorly? The game has almost sold 5 million and it hasn't even become a greatest hit yet or even been out for half a year yet(In most territories). It's a little premature to say the game didn't sell well don't you think?

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#70 2largeadults
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[QUOTE="2largeadults"]Spoken like someone who

a) doesn't own a PS3

and b) hasn't played a Final Fantasy game.

Let go of that envy dude. It's going to give you an ulcer.



:ogfhgfhtutyutyut

lol, final fantasy sucks always hated it.

the franchise shouldnt even be made anymore.

Care to share what you consider to be a good game? Oh that's right. You have a troll account. Dismissed.
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#71 wavedash101
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Final Fantasy is a fine series and has given me many hours of enjoyment...but there are many other equal or superior RPGs as well, FF isnt the end all and it certainly has flaws...
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#72 eliteGamerSKILL
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i agree, final fantacy was good but now its just getting repetitive i need action now like games like gears of war, cod3, and halo, i just cant hack turn based bull **** anymore.
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#73 tarmadadj
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is trolling entertaining now ?

 

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The truth is there has been so many FF games and some have had good scores and some have had less then good and some have had mid range scores. So all in all it makes it an ave scoring game for the duration of the franchise.

This game is cleary the most overated game there is. And it's really not that great of a game or franchise. It's a jRPG with girly looking dudes that have bad hair days and just plain bad dialog most of the time.

Well we all know the PS3 is a sunking ship and FF WILL NOT SAVE PS3. Why you say FF has never been the highest selling game for any of the PS systems. FF games are for a certin group of gamers why yes it's a pretty big group but the TRUTH is the game itself does not set sales records. And neither does or has it ever MGS franchise just throwing that out there also becuase some try to say thats the seller to and it's really not either.

:shock:Truth has just been told.

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The only truth that has been told is that you don't like Sony or Final Fantasy. Big deal!! I like Sony and Final Fantasy just like millions of other people. LOL
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#75 Wanderer5
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So comparing scores from other FF games will show the fate of FFXIII?:|
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#76 BK-Sleeper
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Not overrated just yet. Reaching the peak from which it shall fall from? It shall happen. . .
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[QUOTE="GQ_Smoothie07"]

The truth is there has been so many FF games and some have had good scores and some have had less then good and some have had mid range scores. So all in all it makes it an ave scoring game for the duration of the franchise.

This game is cleary the most overated game there is. And it's really not that great of a game or franchise. It's a jRPG with girly looking dudes that have bad hair days and just plain bad dialog most of the time.

Well we all know the PS3 is a sunking ship and FF WILL NOT SAVE PS3. Why you say FF has never been the highest selling game for any of the PS systems. FF games are for a certin group of gamers why yes it's a pretty big group but the TRUTH is the game itself does not set sales records. And neither does or has it ever MGS franchise just throwing that out there also becuase some try to say thats the seller to and it's really not either.

:shock:Truth has just been told.

JDW_games
The only truth that has been told is that you don't like Sony or Final Fantasy. Big deal!! I like Sony and Final Fantasy just like millions of other people. LOL

i hate sony and love final fantasy :o
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#78 oback
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i hate cows just as much as the next sane person but dont diss FF. it makes you look really stupid.
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#79 FutonForensic
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So, by using the logic demonstrated in this thread, I have to post just one false self-proclaimed fact and I can get over seventy-seven replies?

HALO SUX AMIRITE

ZELDA SUX AMIRITE

BASKIN ROBINS HAS 32 FLAVORS AMIRITE

If my hypothesis is correct, I should be moderator in no time.

Truth be told, I have great respect for the Final Fantasy series because it's one of the few long-running franchises that attempts to reinvent itself every new iteration. Well, except for Chocobo Racing.

That can burn in Tartarus.

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[QUOTE="2largeadults"]Spoken like someone who a) doesn't own a PS3 and b) hasn't played a Final Fantasy game. Let go of that envy dude. It's going to give you an ulcer. :o

You pretty much summed it all up.
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#81 Deihmos
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I tend to stay away from games that has a main character that is a man that looks like a teenage girl and rides a Chocobo.
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#82 Saturos3091
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I hate Sony and love FF.  It's the 3rd highest selling series of all time (after Mario and Pokemon).  It sold better than the Halo Series/GTA series and many other well established franchises.  (IMO Halo is by far one of the most overrated games of all time, next to RE4).
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#83 Maelkav
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I am a Wii-owner, sheep, mindless drone, etc. etc. etc. and even I want a PS3 to play FF XIII. Is it overrated? Not as a series. Are certain FF games overrated? Yes, but it depends on who you talk to. I'd say FF7 is overrated, but that's because everyone talks about it like it was Jesus Christ's 2nd coming.

All I can say is that if I am allowed to get excited about a franchise GC port (Zelda:TP), then PS3 owners are allowed to be excited about a franchise built-from-the-ground-up-for-the-PS3 game.

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The truth is there has been so many FF games and some have had good scores and some have had less then good and some have had mid range scores. So all in all it makes it an ave scoring game for the duration of the franchise.

This game is cleary the most overated game there is. And it's really not that great of a game or franchise. It's a jRPG with girly looking dudes that have bad hair days and just plain bad dialog most of the time.

Well we all know the PS3 is a sunking ship and FF WILL NOT SAVE PS3. Why you say FF has never been the highest selling game for any of the PS systems. FF games are for a certin group of gamers why yes it's a pretty big group but the TRUTH is the game itself does not set sales records. And neither does or has it ever MGS franchise just throwing that out there also becuase some try to say thats the seller to and it's really not either.

:shock:Truth has just been told.

GQ_Smoothie07
FF12 wa the HIGHEST selling game in Japan and Europe for months. yeah, only a small number of people like it.
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#85 lowe0
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typical lemming outrage after being charged for extra maps.

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I suppose you think the Resistance maps will be free?
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#86 Private_Vegas
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Final Fantasy rules. Piles of garbage are overated though. I agree with you there.

Why does everyone assume this guy is a lemming? His profile is blank. Why did I assume he/she was a guy? Hm........

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#87 GerrywithaG15
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mr M S fanboy, the ps3 doesnt need saving :)

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#88 GerrywithaG15
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

typical lemming outrage after being charged for extra maps.

lowe0
I suppose you think the Resistance maps will be free?

yes i do
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#89 djxaquaxblue
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as a PC and Playstation gamer.....i really never liked RPG's...but Final Fantasy isnt overrated because they actually make good stories behind the games where as other RPG's are just, iono how to describe it but i guess just random. if you actually sit down and try the game out then you'll see why. just like the MGS series..yeah theres a lot of talking but the story is just that good.
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The truth is there has been so many FF games and some have had good scores and some have had less then good and some have had mid range scores. So all in all it makes it an ave scoring game for the duration of the franchise.

This game is cleary the most overated game there is. And it's really not that great of a game or franchise. It's a jRPG with girly looking dudes that have bad hair days and just plain bad dialog most of the time.

Well we all know the PS3 is a sunking ship and FF WILL NOT SAVE PS3. Why you say FF has never been the highest selling game for any of the PS systems. FF games are for a certin group of gamers why yes it's a pretty big group but the TRUTH is the game itself does not set sales records. And neither does or has it ever MGS franchise just throwing that out there also becuase some try to say thats the seller to and it's really not either.

:shock:Truth has just been told.

GQ_Smoothie07
HAHAHAHAHA!!! You quite clearly have no idea. Just becuase you don't like FF doesn't mean it isn't great! I know from first hand experience that FF7 through to 12 are all great, with 9 being the weakest but it was still great! So, alas, you are wrong, it is if anything underrated, the PS3 isn't a sunking ship (and it isn't even a SINKING ship) and it's a combination of great games suck as FF, MGS and Ratchet and Clank that will make the PS3 victorious. NOW the truth has been told.
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#91 Beba_FH
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Final Fantasy hasn't been that big of a seller, even on the PS2 it never sold more than 8 million, and that's on a system with over 100 million consoles soldaxt113

Games sell consoles. One game won't sell all consoles, since not everyone is into all genres. PS2 sold so so many becuase its diverse and pretty much excelled in all genres.  So its understandable that FF would sell 20 Million copies

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#92 hip-hop-cola
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[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola"]i agree final fantasy sucks... but the ps3 dont need saving, its got killzone, mgs4, warhawk and a load of others that can do that job just fine:roll:UndyingVayne

 

Killzone 2 has much more of a chance of flopping than Final Fantasy 13, you only have to play the last game in the series to know that. 

OMG, how long has killzone been talked about. i though the first one was a fresh new thing for fps. yes, it had its problems but i loved it. and mgs4.....do i need to say anything. final fantansy has been done SO many times and all that changes are the graphics. iv played it, u spend day and night lvling up ur charcters to kill the boss. then u get killed by the next boss, so u go bk to lvling up. the ps3 is a console with a lot of things going for it, it dosnt need saving. if blueray wins the format wars(which is looks like it is) the ps3 wins 2
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#93 arm9218
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it must not be garbage if it sells. u just have your own separate opinion
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#94 Watch_Me_Xplode
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The truth is there has been so many FF games and some have had good scores and some have had less then good and some have had mid range scores. So all in all it makes it an ave scoring game for the duration of the franchise.

This game is cleary the most overated game there is. And it's really not that great of a game or franchise. It's a jRPG with girly looking dudes that have bad hair days and just plain bad dialog most of the time.

Well we all know the PS3 is a sunking ship and FF WILL NOT SAVE PS3. Why you say FF has never been the highest selling game for any of the PS systems. FF games are for a certin group of gamers why yes it's a pretty big group but the TRUTH is the game itself does not set sales records. And neither does or has it ever MGS franchise just throwing that out there also becuase some try to say thats the seller to and it's really not either.

:shock:Truth has just been told.

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Thanks for your opinion, that which I'm sure some people may agree with, and a majority will not.
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#95 liljon546
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Well, I have only played FF7 and FF12, but I can say that they are both very good games.
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#97 HazeNPopes
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A mindless opinion from a typical lemming fanboy does not make it the truth, i understand it`s an opinion but the fanbase will dis agree with you and i do not respect it.
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#98 Hewkii
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just because you say it doesn't make it true. or else you would know that Final Fantasy is not one game.