Final Fantasy XIII: 140+ hours to achieve 100%

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#1 NAPK1NS
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Hope you have a lot of time on your hands.

Sounds like something I'll never be doing! But a two thumbs up for whoever is up for the challenge. It's good to hear that the four year wait will pay off in playtime.

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#2 fireballonfire
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Out of those 140+ hours, 120 hours are pure grinding. Talk about wasting time.

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#3 NAPK1NS
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Out of those 140+ hours, 120 hours are pure grinding. Talk about wasting time.

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It really bums me out how much hate this game gets. The series is pretty special to me so it's a real sucker punch when these kinds of comments get used. Anyway, it's already been discussed that the combat system isn't exactly grind friendly (not to say you can't grind) but the game will be more quickly paced experience (along the lines of FFX).
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#4 killerfist
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Meh, last game I actually tried to complete 100% was GTA: SA. It felt like a chore tbh, not really my thing. But cool for the people that like it tho.
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#5 fireballonfire
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Surely you know better than to take anything seriously in SW. 90% is just bullsh*t posts anyway. I hope you'll enjoy FF XIII.

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#6 NAPK1NS
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Surely you know better than to take anything seriously in SW. 90% is just bullsh*t posts anyway. I hope you'll enjoy FF XIII.

fireballonfire
Thanks. :P P.S. There's a lot of percentages being mentioned in this thread. It's weird.
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#7 toxicmog
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It was the same with FFX if you wanted to kill all of the dark aeons and get all of the monsters collected!
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#8 tutt3r
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thats way too long

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#9 eNT1TY
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I myself wont chase after 100% completion but if it manages to give 40+ hours on one fairly thorough playthrough i would be more than content. I am purchasing this mostly out of nostalgia for the series but a meaty game is always welcome.
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#10 danish-death
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Out of those 140+ hours, 120 hours are pure grinding. Talk about wasting time.

fireballonfire
Doesn't you do so in most games?
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#11 Kashiwaba
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Thats great :P I usually take 100+ to beat any FF game except FFIV on DS I beat it in 60 hours :P.

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#12 hakanakumono
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I hated FFIV DS but somehow I can't bring myself to sell it. :(

Anyways, I doubt I'll be doing that. I still haven't beaten those silly weapons in FFVII. And I probably never will.

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#13 10MP
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i'm going to go for 100% only if the side bosses are actually hard. every jrpg this gen that has side bosses and collecting is just too easy and that makes the grind not worth it. i think lost odyssey and tales of vesperia are good examples of what i'm saying.

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#14 SolemnJedi79
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Not bad, considering my FFX file is at around 170 hours, and my FFXII file is around 120. Usually my first playthrough is pure story, then second time I go for 100% I don't get why people wouldn't like this... it's not like anyone has to 100% the game, as evidenced by some FFXII haters.. people aren't even aware that other stuff outside the story exists unless they actively seek it.
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#15 yokofox33
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I don't know if I'll try for 100% on my first playthrough, but knowing that the game will be incredibly lengthy is a good thing for me. I imagine I'll get well over 100 hours of playtime even missing stuff to do.

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#17 shutdown_202
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The first game i ever 100%'d was FFX. This will be the second.

Mainly because besides this and ME2, im not going to buy that many games untill the end of the year (for pricing reasons).

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#19 Silent-Hal
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That's not something I think I'll be going for. I just like to enjoy the story when playing RPGs, since most of the side quests just end up being pointless filler. Hopefully the main storyline is the promised 50+ hours.
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#20 badtaker
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side quests FTW :P
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#22 FILIPINOMAZTER
Member since 2008 • 1627 Posts
meh pokemon d/p/p is still a lot longer
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#23 aroxx_ab
Member since 2005 • 13236 Posts

To do 100% in a Final fantasy game you need follow a guide book...they put in stuff that have no logic at all so its impossible without cheating.

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#24 _Impmacaque_
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Out of those 140+ hours, 120 hours are pure grinding. Talk about wasting time.

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Things like this nearly make me resent posting here. Nearly.

Nowadays, people such as the above use the term "grind" to refer to any semi-repetitive component of a game which does not, on its own, progress the plot. However, if you aren't a mouth-breathing, brain-damaged monkey.. you'd see that nearly every game ever made has some sort of grind. In Super Mario, you grind by jumping on turtles until you reach the flag. In Halo, you grind by killing hordes of the flood until you reach the big battle at the end of the level. In Zelda you grind your way through long dungeouns until you can hit the boss behind the huge locked door. There is always a "grind" in the sense that there's always $@!%-to-kill and stuff-to-do that isn't a huge boss or epic battle. Some games disguise this grind better than others, but the ultimate result is the same - you will be killing non-essential stuff in any game that involves killing since it serves as a pacing mechanic. Do you want a game that's nothing but a collection of boss battles and plot? Might as well go watch a movie if you're looking for two hours of thrills.

Final Fantasy is an RPG, a genre which is based on the growth and development of a protagonist and it's group. In FF, you rarely have to go out of your way to kill the same monsters solely for the purpose of levelling up. Usually, the main plot of the story can be completed using the experience gained just playing the game straight through. You don't need to be level 100 to beat the final boss in the main plot - and this has been the case in every. single. FF. game. People who enjoy the franchise and the genre go out of their way to become stronger because it's REWARDING to see more damage, to get cooler weapons, to fight the true hardest bosses. We enjoy this "grind" because it gives us access to a far greater portion of the game then we'd otherwise see.

Your statement that so much optional content is a "waste of time" is just proof of your bias. It's okay to not be a fan of a genre, but to make a statement as you did shows a hell of a lot of that bias. Like it or not, FF13 will be packed with near twenty times more value than 99% of games this gen, and those of us eagerly awaiting it's release will be enjoying some of the best content this gen has to offer.

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#25 x_xion_
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it better be a long game
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#26 KukicAdo
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I'll do it in 70
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#27 2mrw
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It was the same with FFX if you wanted to kill all of the dark aeons and get all of the monsters collected!toxicmog
yeah, i have spent over 200 hr+ to do that, FFXIII is even shorter.
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#28 HAZE-Unit
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I remember trying to make it to 100% in FF7 and FF10, both saves were deleted, in FF7, it was just random memory card thingy, maybe it was a virus or something and for FF10 it was from my stupid friend who overwrotehis early save over mine.

There is a curse going on with me and FF 100% completion :P

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#29 Articuno76
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If that is a load of hours grinding of doing some repetitive task then I can't say I am interested. I prefer short with an emphasis on quality. However if they have both there than I will not be one to complain. The main game is said to be around 60 hours. Again though, that's just a figure. It's much better for a game to be short (even as short as 25 hours) but be rich in content. Having said that SOA:L was around 60 hours and that had very little aimless deadtime. The most important thing is pacing. Even a short game which has one long middle part where nothing much happens isn't particularly good.
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#30 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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that's cool, finally long good game, i always finish a final fantasy once, then on my second playthrought i try to get everything

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#31 destroyerHHH
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I hated FFIV DS but somehow I can't bring myself to sell it. :(

Anyways, I doubt I'll be doing that. I still haven't beaten those silly weapons in FFVII. And I probably never will.

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Dude, Final Fantasy IV on DS was epic. The only think I though was lacking was more voiced over cutscenes.
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#32 ActicEdge
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Well that's pretty ace. I wonder whether it will be amazing the 140 hours though? anyway, just the length makes it look more and more enticing.

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#33 Adrian_Cloud
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I like girinding, getting ultimate weapons, and i put easily over 80 hours in FFIX. I'm really looking forward to it, i'm glad the report was from an actual gamer rather than a publisher. Publishers for some reason after hours of play testing always get the game play length wrong.
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#34 BattleTurtles
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Only 140 hours? Pfft. Why would you spend $60 on a game you'll only spend 140 hours on? Such a waste of money. Pokémon is only $30 and it's over 200 hours long. God SE, stop being lazy.

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#35 DivineSword  Moderator
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Well that's is great news for any fans of the series considering we have waited a while for just a released date. I spent over one hundred hours for most role playing game to begin with so this shouldn't really be anything new to me. Considering that amount of time, hopefully there are a lot of sidequests for this game.

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#36 Vandalvideo
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To get that 100% you probably have to do something asanine like open all chests or get all weapons; even the really crappy ones that you don't really need. Or there is some unrealistically long quest to get certain items that takes a few hours.
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#37 ActicEdge
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Only 140 hours? Pfft. Why would you spend $60 on a game you'll only spend 140 hours on? Such a waste of money. Pokémon is only $30 and it's over 200 hours long. God SE, stop being lazy.

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I have over 500 hours in pokemone pearl. regardless, 140 hours is a lot of time (yes I know you were being sarcastic)

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#38 jwsoul
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Excellent this is one of the reasons im such a fan of FF games.

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#39 shoryuken_
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I might get a PS3 because of this..>_>

*must fight FF addiction*

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#40 Vandalvideo
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Excellent this is one of the reasons im such a fan of FF games.

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Because of crap like the Sunflower sword which takes an unrealistic amount of time for a single item?
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#41 Masculus
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This usually means its actually 70 hours of game, heardlots of time crap like that before.

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#42 metalguitar13
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Perfect Game 140 hours?

That means leveling 1 level doesn't take killing 1000 baddies (FFXII)

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#43 themyth01
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Very nice. I will have to drop $60 for this after all.
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#44 mythrol
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The only thing I hate about the latest FF games especially is to 100% complete it you usually have to do really stupid stuff that if you like to play the game straight up (aka without a guide book) it'd be impossible. I remember in FFXII to get some of the ultimate weapons you had to NOT open specific treasure chests throughout the game. If you opened just one of them, you couldn't get some of the char. ultimate weapons on that play through. Even people who wrote the guides would say "We're not exactly sure which chests they are, so we recommend you avoid all in this area." First, all previous FF games have trained us TO OPEN EVERY CHEST YOU FIND. Second, that's so random that there's no chance of someone without a guide book being about to do it. And 3rd, It feels more like a punishment than a reward. Most people aren't even aware of the exact chest, so if they open one by accident, boom no ultimate weapon for you. Im fine with grinding to be able to kill a strong boss and get a great weapon, I'm not fine if some of the 100% requires me playing through again and trying to AVOID doing stuff and is so completely random that even the guide book people are like "hey we're not exactly sure so just avoid this big chunk of the game".
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#45 WilliamRLBaker
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and like all past Final Fantasies it will still only take 15-20 hours to beat the main storyline maybe less if there is alot more CGI and ingame cinematics then usual.

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#46 Blue-Sky
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I'm skeptical as well. 100% could mean how long it takes to grind for rare item drops to create ultra-powerful weapons that can only be used at the very end of the game.

It took me 170 hours to complete 95% of FFX, yet the main campaign was only a fraction of that time. I actually got the sunflower sword in FFXII, boy what a waste of time that was, by the time I got it, there was nothing left but the last dungeon.

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#47 Shirokishi_
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Im not really a %100 completion guy.

Ill stick to the main story first and do the fun side missions later.

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#48 Texas2089
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Sounds good to me. I put 117 hours into my first playthough of FFXII and I'm nearing 100% so I have no problems with that at all. I doubt I'll get 100% on my first playthrough though. Hell I put 119 hours in P3 and 108 hours into P4 on my first playthroughs and didn't come close to 100% so length is never an issue for me.

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#49 Texas2089
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I remember in FFXII to get some of the ultimate weapons you had to NOT open specific treasure chests throughout the game. If you opened just one of them, you couldn't get some of the char. ultimate weapons on that play through. Even people who wrote the guides would say "We're not exactly sure which chests they are, so we recommend you avoid all in this area."mythrol
The reason they didn't know is because the chests were randomized in FFXII. I really hope they go back to set chests for FFXIII.
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#50 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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I have yet to100% any of the previous FF games, so I won't be doing so for this one...at least not right away ;)