Final Round: The worst rpg of this GENERATION!!!

final fantasy 13 is one of the worst games I've played in a long time.

having pretty graphics doesn't save a game from not being bad quality, pretty graphics doesn't hlep the horrible voice acting and characters, and the most simplistic and boring gameplay I've seen in years. It's just a terrible game.

theuncharted34

I don't recall other FF's being all that complex, just not upgrading and skipping encounters(staying low level) often made 13 fine. But, I quit after getting to Gran Pulse though, my encounter skipping turned against me, making some things one shot my party out there or just taking too long to kill... :(

However, nothing would fix the pedophile character Snow and the overall meh'ness of the characters.

so....why aren't games like Last Rebellion on that list? You know, one of the games up for the nomination of Flat-Out Worst Game of 2010? Are there any games on that list that came close to scoring a 3.5?

R3FURBISHED

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

so....why aren't games like Last Rebellion on that list? You know, one of the games up for the nomination of Flat-Out Worst Game of 2010? Are there any games on that list that came close to scoring a 3.5?

TheOtherTheoG

Just as long as people and whoever the starchild is that created this thread knows that.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

It shouldn't have been on the list in the first place.

theuncharted34

Aside from FFXIV, none of this games should be in this list to beging with, none of this games are the worst RPG of this gen, you may dislike FFXIII and ME2, but calling them the worst of this gen when games like Arcania 4, Alpha Protocol, The Crystal Bearers got lower scores is just silly, in other words, haters gonna hate.

This thread isn't about the worst RPG of this gen, this is about "Bash the game that you don't like"

final fantasy 13 is one of the worst games I've played in a long time.

having pretty graphics doesn't save a game from not being bad quality, pretty graphics doesn't help the horrible voice acting and characters, and the most simplistic and boring gameplay I've seen in years. It's just a terrible game.

The battle system is amazing, the only bad voice acting is Vanille, but at the end of the day, those are just opinions from both you and me.

However, bad quality? where? is not buggy, it has great graphics, great music, great gameplay (you may or not like it, but it works how it should work), there is a great difference between a mess of a game like FFXIV an a great game like FFXIII, you cannot honestly tell that FFXIII is the worst RPG of the gen only because you didn't like it when there are other bad games with no redeeming factors whatsoever.

[QUOTE="TheOtherTheoG"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

so....why aren't games like Last Rebellion on that list? You know, one of the games up for the nomination of Flat-Out Worst Game of 2010? Are there any games on that list that came close to scoring a 3.5?

Just as long as people and whoever the star child is that created this thread knows that.

Oh and please stop complaning about the list. It's SW fault ad you are a part of it. If half of the complainers voted last time, maybe Cross edge etc. would be on the list.Captainqwark10

Is this or is this thread not entitled The worst rpg of this GENERATION!!! ?

What is carries more weight people voting for a game they don't like for no reason other than to smite the game or using some grey matter and figuring out which games are in fact the actual "worst"?

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"]Oh and please stop complaning about the list. It's SW fault ad you are a part of it. If half of the complainers voted last time, maybe Cross edge etc. would be on the list.R3FURBISHED

Is this or is this thread not entitled The worst rpg of this GENERATION!!! ?

What is carries more weight people voting for a game they don't like for no reason other than to smite the game or using some grey matter and figuring out which games are in fact the actual "worst"?

I am a bit alarmed that Star Ocean 4 got so little votes especially the hate it got during the first round.

No, Some people on SW for example actually think Mass Effect 2 is bad without the "Is it an rpg" debate. It still would have been in the top 5 regardless. Now for THIS POLL a lot of people may just be voting for Mass Effect 2 because of some random theory that suggests it's not an rpg when it is.

I am a bit alarmed that Star Ocean 4 got so little votes especially the hate it got during the first round.

Captainqwark10

yeah-huh

how about this...next time you think it would be a good idea to make a series of threads that revolved around "popular" oppinion it would be a good idea to bar games that recieve multiple Game of the Year nominations.

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They would require weighting for the votes, something like ME2 should have very little weight, but that 'neptunia' thing, that I've heard is terrible, should have a lot of weight, since there aren't as many people to vote for it.

GS forum polling isn't deep enough for a list like this!

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"]

No, Some people on SW for example actually think Mass Effect 2 is bad without the "Is it an rpg" debate. It still would have been in the top 5 regardless. Now for THIS POLL a lot of people may just be voting for Mass Effect 2 because of some random theory that suggests it's not an rpg when it is.

I am a bit alarmed that Star Ocean 4 got so little votes especially the hate it got during the first round.

yeah-huh

how about this...next time you think it would be a good idea to make a series of threads that revolved around "popular" oppinion it would be a good idea to bar games that recieve multiple Game of the Year nominations.

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"]--snipped!--Inconsistancy

They would require weighting for the votes, something like ME2 should have very little weight, but that 'neptunia' thing, that I've heard is terrible, should have a lot of weight, since there aren't as many people to vote for it.

GS forum polling isn't deep enough for a list like this!

Lol democracy, its why it doesn;t work so well :Plocopatho

Or, you and the poster below you can read and realize these were nominated LEGITLY to be in this thread. (Notice this whole contest was only 2 threads so wtf are you talking about series of threads?) If it was nominated the most, it is on the list. The 5 in the poll were voted by people that actually DID NOT like the game. NOW I can see these people hating for hating it but these were put on the list in this poll by people who honestly did not like it. Do not complain.Captainqwark10

Worst

How does the 2009 Best RPG and 2009 Game of the Year, 2011 Best RPG and 2011 Game of the Year nominee, Best RPG of 2006, Best RPG of 2009 and Game of the Year 2009 nominee and many others come anywhere near Worst?

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"]Or, you and the poster below you can read and realize these were nominated LEGITLY to be in this thread. (Notice this whole contest was only 2 threads so wtf are you talking about series of threads?) If it was nominated the most, it is on the list. The 5 in the poll were voted by people that actually DID NOT like the game. NOW I can see these people hating for hating it but these were put on the list in this poll by people who honestly did not like it. Do not complain.R3FURBISHED

Worst

How does the 2009 Best RPG and 2009 Game of the Year, 2011 Best RPG and 2011 Game of the Year nominee, Best RPG of 2006, Best RPG of 2009 and Game of the Year 2009 nominee and many others come anywhere near Worst?

What has the world come to? So many people actually think Mass Effect 2 is a bas games? You've gotta be either a blind Biohater who refuses to see reason, or a troll. No sane person can dislike ME2 :?khoofia_pika

What has the world come to? So many people actually think Mass Effect 2 is a bas games? You've gotta be either a blind Biohater who refuses to see reason, or a troll. No sane person can dislike ME2 :?khoofia_pika

I'm afraid I don't get it either, as the ME series as a whole easily makes my top 10 of all time, but that's the thing about opinions, ya know?

At any rate, I think the reason some of these truly atrocious games like Hyperdimension Whatever and Cross Edge didn't make the final list is that not enough people actually knew they existed. Which in itself is an indicator that these are among the worst of the worst.

For what it's worth, I firmly stand behind my original vote of Two Worlds. That is among the worst games I've ever played.

And now I ask you to go to dictionary.com and look up the word NOMINATE. Since for some reason you can't comprehand that SW Nominated these games fairly. It can't be any simpler. Yes Mass Effect got awards from people with opinions. But hey, some review sites and people, including SW, do not like the game. So really, you are saying opinions are wrong. SW voted it in, it's in.Captainqwark10

Damn straight I am saying thier oppinions are wrong! Anyone who would cast a vote for Demon's Soul, Mass Effect, Dragon's Age, Fallout as the worst RPG are WRONG! And to be completely frank, they are more than a little delusional.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Lol democracy, its why it doesn;t work so well :PCaptainqwark10

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]What has the world come to? So many people actually think Mass Effect 2 is a bas games? You've gotta be either a blind Biohater who refuses to see reason, or a troll. No sane person can dislike ME2 :?drochnathair

I'm afraid I don't get it either, as the ME series as a whole easily makes my top 10 of all time, but that's the thing about opinions, ya know?

At any rate, I think the reason some of these truly atrocious games like Hyperdimension Whatever and Cross Edge didn't make the final list is that not enough people actually knew they existed. Which in itself is an indicator that these are among the worst of the worst.

For what it's worth, I firmly stand behind my original vote of Two Worlds. That is among the worst games I've ever played.

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]What has the world come to? So many people actually think Mass Effect 2 is a bas games? You've gotta be either a blind Biohater who refuses to see reason, or a troll. No sane person can dislike ME2 :?Captainqwark10

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]What has the world come to? So many people actually think Mass Effect 2 is a bas games? You've gotta be either a blind Biohater who refuses to see reason, or a troll. No sane person can dislike ME2 :?khoofia_pika

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]What has the world come to? So many people actually think Mass Effect 2 is a bas games? You've gotta be either a blind Biohater who refuses to see reason, or a troll. No sane person can dislike ME2 :?Captainqwark10

I'm afraid I don't get it either, as the ME series as a whole easily makes my top 10 of all time, but that's the thing about opinions, ya know?

At any rate, I think the reason some of these truly atrocious games like Hyperdimension Whatever and Cross Edge didn't make the final list is that not enough people actually knew they existed. Which in itself is an indicator that these are among the worst of the worst.

For what it's worth, I firmly stand behind my original vote of Two Worlds. That is among the worst games I've ever played.

Wait, what? I never mentioned any of those games, and I fail to see how that relates at all to what I said.

Star Ocean 4? Really? The only problem I have with that game is the impossible boss fight I'm stuck on!!!! DX

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"][QUOTE="drochnathair"]

I'm afraid I don't get it either, as the ME series as a whole easily makes my top 10 of all time, but that's the thing about opinions, ya know?

At any rate, I think the reason some of these truly atrocious games like Hyperdimension Whatever and Cross Edge didn't make the final list is that not enough people actually knew they existed. Which in itself is an indicator that these are among the worst of the worst.

For what it's worth, I firmly stand behind my original vote of Two Worlds. That is among the worst games I've ever played.

drochnathair

You: Games that are bad that are not winning because they are not known. Me: Games that aren't know are bad?

Wait, what? I never mentioned any of those games, and I fail to see how that relates at all to what I said.

Star Ocean 4? Really? The only problem I have with that game is the impossible boss fight I'm stuck on!!!! DX

GeoffZak

Valkirya Chronicles and Resonance of Fate for me

Valkirya Chronicles and Resonance of Fate for me

dommeus

Alright, I see what you're saying now, Qwark.

Perhaps I phrased it poorly in my previous post, so let me clarify. What I meant was that the reason these games aren't getting more votes is because they are little known. I didn't actually mean to imply that simply not being popular is indicative of quality, as it isn't. But I do think that truly bad games often fly well under the radar.

Star Ocean 4 gets my vote. I hated just about everything in that game. The battle system was alright, but I did get bored of it after a while.

Haven't played FFXIV, but it did look bad from the video reviews I've seen.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"]--snipped!--Captainqwark10

They would require weighting for the votes, something like ME2 should have very little weight, but that 'neptunia' thing, that I've heard is terrible, should have a lot of weight, since there aren't as many people to vote for it.

GS forum polling isn't deep enough for a list like this!

SnipTheOtherTheoG

I disagree about the characters (I only liked Tali, Garrus and Legion), writing, shooting mechanics (then again, I hate ALL cover based shooters, Uncharted, GeoW, Mass Effect, ect), polish (I got stuck in the air countless times), balance, class uniqueness (class variety was even worse than that in the modern WoW), universe (WAY too cliche for my tastes) and of course pacing (encounter design, mission variety were horrible). Of course if you disagree with me, you are entitled to, it is your opinion after all.

The choices were black and white for most of the game, and to make them even more boring, they also led to the same results from what I saw, except for alignment change. Choices in ME2 were horrible. Witcher 2 and Witcher 1 had much better choices.

Being able to import saves HAS been done before, Ultima 5 lets you import saves from its prequel (contains bad language). Oh and party members can get killed as well dephending on your choices. Oh and perma deaths exist in many games, not just RPGs. In Fire Emblem for instance, units that die are lost forever, forcing you to make a choice to reload or continue through the rest of the game without him/her.

Cinematic gameplay is what I consider a plague to the industry, I understand some people like it, but I would rejoice if every dev stopped trying to make their games cinematic.

As opposed to improving the inventory system, they just removed it. I disapprove of that. Oh, how are these old games more one dimentional than ME2. ME2 is one of the most black and white games I have played with, black/white choices, factions and characters. The lack of interactivity with the world and plot (ooh I get to make a bunch of scripted choices all leading to the same thing). ME2 fails as an RPG, it fails as a shooter, it fails to tell me a compelling story, it fails as a game. Still, to give credit where it is due, the voice acting, environment variety, the graphics looked nice.

I also never got to the sucide mission so I cant comment on that, I gave up after recruiting my 7th member.

Anyway, for those who have PMed me posting pictures of the games for some reason in the order of that in the poll:

Two Worlds:

Final Fantasy 13:

Star Ocean 4:

Final Fantasy 14:

Mass Effect 2:

You: Games that are bad that are not winning because they are not known. Me: Games that aren't know are bad?

Captainqwark10

there are sleeper hits/hidden gems that no one plays (like vanquish). But as I previously stated, the thread title shouldn't be "the worst rpg of this gen", it should be something along the lines of, "the worst RPG that the most people have played this gen" or something along those lines. If those people who voted mass effect actually played cross edge, it would be a no-brainer that cross edge is a much worse game/rpg.

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"]

You: Games that are bad that are not winning because they are not known. Me: Games that aren't know are bad?

there are sleeper hits/hidden gems that no one plays (like vanquish). But as I previously stated, the thread title shouldn't be "the worst rpg of this gen", it should be something along the lines of, "the worst RPG that the most people have played this gen" or something along those lines. If those people who voted mass effect actually played cross edge, it would be a no-brainer that cross edge is a much worse game/rpg.

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"]

You: Games that are bad that are not winning because they are not known. Me: Games that aren't know are bad?

Captainqwark10

there are sleeper hits/hidden gems that no one plays (like vanquish). But as I previously stated, the thread title shouldn't be "the worst rpg of this gen", it should be something along the lines of, "the worst RPG that the most people have played this gen" or something along those lines. If those people who voted mass effect actually played cross edge, it would be a no-brainer that cross edge is a much worse game/rpg.

as I stated, the thread title shouldn't be the worst RPG of this gen since the choices are based on votes. The one with the most votes doesn't make it the worst rpg. It's just the worst one that the largest amount of people have played.

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"][QUOTE="Some-Mist"]he didn't say that. He said games that are worse than the poll options aren't winning because no one has played them...

there are sleeper hits/hidden gems that no one plays (like vanquish). But as I previously stated, the thread title shouldn't be "the worst rpg of this gen", it should be something along the lines of, "the worst RPG that the most people have played this gen" or something along those lines. If those people who voted mass effect actually played cross edge, it would be a no-brainer that cross edge is a much worse game/rpg.

as I stated, the thread title shouldn't be the worst RPG of this gen since the choices are based on votes. The one with the most votes doesn't make it the worst rpg. It's just the worst one that the largest amount of people have played.

honest/valid/legit according to who? you said these games were voted on, were they not?

as I stated, the thread title shouldn't be the worst RPG of this gen since the choices are based on votes. The one with the most votes doesn't make it the worst rpg. It's just the worst one that the largest amount of people have played.

Some-Mist

Indeed, that is the problem with making a poll like this, it would make it the most unpopular RPG, not worst. I am not voting on games I havent played. I already did the mistake of judging some games to be crap before I played them, and missed out on awesome experiences.

It works better for best RPG, but even then it would still end up as nothing but a mere popularity contest. Despite my obvious hatred for ME2 (and Bioware in general), I would hardly consider them the worst RPGs out there, worst RPGs I have played? Sure. Worst RPGs ever? Not with titles like Hyperdimention Neptula.

Edit: Oh, and then there is the other problem of it only factoring a certain community. Escapist Loves Bioware, while RPGCodex has burning hatred in regards to Bioware.

FF14.

Two Worlds. That game was abysmal.

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"] The first thread before this one had honest votes and all had a valid reason for hating the game as I ignored the ones that were just biased. The list is legit, the posts ABOUT this list are mixed. That's all that matters is the 5 choices are legit.Captainqwark10

as I stated, the thread title shouldn't be the worst RPG of this gen since the choices are based on votes. The one with the most votes doesn't make it the worst rpg. It's just the worst one that the largest amount of people have played.

final fantasy 14 is the worst because it was consolized. Is that valid now because I had a reason even tho I didn't play it?

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"][QUOTE="Some-Mist"]honest/valid/legit according to who? you said these games were voted on, were they not?

as I stated, the thread title shouldn't be the worst RPG of this gen since the choices are based on votes. The one with the most votes doesn't make it the worst rpg. It's just the worst one that the largest amount of people have played.

What's a shooter doing up there? [\quote] Rocket Propelled Gernades are in shooters so Mass Effect 2 is and rpg. See? Now everyones happy.

What's a shooter doing up there?siLVURcross

shhh. It's a "legit" choice because enough people gave their "valid" and "unbiased" opinions.

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="Captainqwark10"] They were valid because they had a reason. Plus, I am asking for opinions, so right now FFXIV so far is SW worst rpg of this gen. If you didn't like it why did you vote for Final Fantasy XIV?Captainqwark10

too late, already voted for FF14.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]What's a shooter doing up there?Some-Mist

shhh. It's a "legit" choice because enough people gave their "valid" and "unbiased" opinions.

"Enough" as in 5 people who represent the entire SW community, let a lone the entire gamer community :lol:

By this logic we could make a thread about the worst FPS and put SMG in there just for the sake of.