Finally Reach comes to PC. Thank you XIM3.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I like the video, interesting. What the **** are those guys on about in the comments? :Pwaltefmoney

Me :D

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I like the video, interesting. What the **** are those guys on about in the comments? :PLocutus_Picard

Me :D

Message the guy and ask him politely.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I like the video, interesting. What the **** are those guys on about in the comments? :PLocutus_Picard

Me :D

You are Locutus of Borg, your name will echo for an eternity.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

Oh, and spare the petty attempts at indirect insults. Implying that I lack character or integrity because I'm considering purchasing a legal product is pretty pathetic.

Doolz2024

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I like the video, interesting. What the **** are those guys on about in the comments? :PLocutus_Picard

Me :D

Indirect? No, I'm pretty directly insulting you.lowe0

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Me :D

Ravensmash

It is pretty cheap I suppose... this device clearly gives the user a great advantage over those using a controller (more sothan a gaming mouse vs office mouse - don't use that comparison).

ok, as far as the cheating thing goes. if it was as smooth and fast as a game developed for the mouse....yeah, but it's not. you have the same restrictions as the controller. plus the software has to reverse all the code there specificially for analog sticks so you'll never get that smooth PC feel. that said, for those of us that are used to kb/m, this is an alternative for us.

As if the game doesn't have enough balance issues with Armor Lock, now we have to deal with the equivilent of a modded controller because some people just don't want to play fair. Awesome.

ok, as far as the cheating thing goes. if it was as smooth and fast as a game developed for the mouse....yeah, but it's not. you have the same restrictions as the controller. plus the software has to reverse all the code there specificially for analog sticks so you'll never get that smooth PC feel. that said, for those of us that are used to kb/m, this is an alternative for us.

lespaul1919

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

ok, as far as the cheating thing goes. if it was as smooth and fast as a game developed for the mouse....yeah, but it's not. you have the same restrictions as the controller. plus the software has to reverse all the code there specificially for analog sticks so you'll never get that smooth PC feel. that said, for those of us that are used to kb/m, this is an alternative for us.

jaymillsy

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

takes it easy lol, it was my first day. (still won every game lol)

not only first day on XIM, but first day on reach since the month it came out. give me two weeks and it'll be a whole different ballgame.

haberman13

Loved the double sniper shot as those guys jumped off the platform.

PWN those noobs up!

ha, that was good stuff indeed. I was like "YES, this is what playing FPS is about"

lol

also, if reach was on pc i would have no need for this. :P

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Indirect? No, I'm pretty directly insulting you.lowe0

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Typo on my part. I was in a hurry to add that extra bit to my post, but whatever. Still doesn't change the fact that you're getting mad because a person you don't even know is probably going to purchase a 100% legal product. THAT is pathetic.

Doolz2024

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

And by the way, I just checked the price on those things, $150? Pfft, **** that. I'm not even going to buy one now. :P

That is a console problem, not a blops problem. Consoles use peer-2-peer for gaming, so you are relying on another person's 360 as the server (and a lot of them are on wireless LOL)

The XIM is almost needed to make up for the host having a 0 ping.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Typo on my part. I was in a hurry to add that extra bit to my post, but whatever. Still doesn't change the fact that you're getting mad because a person you don't even know is probably going to purchase a 100% legal product. THAT is pathetic.

Doolz2024

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

Between this thread and those youtube comments I am very entertained!

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, you can buy whatever you want. What I'm calling you out for is the idea that it's okay to try to gain advantage over other players because you're not happy with your in-game performance. I'm not good at Call of Duty - know what I do? I play something else that I'm better at.lowe0

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

Not entitled, but he can purchase an advantage!

I'm still not seeing why its a problem, this is the nature of capitalism/gaming/hobbies, embrace the upgradability IMO.

ok, as far as the cheating thing goes. if it was as smooth and fast as a game developed for the mouse....yeah, but it's not. you have the same restrictions as the controller. plus the software has to reverse all the code there specificially for analog sticks so you'll never get that smooth PC feel. that said, for those of us that are used to kb/m, this is an alternative for us.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="jaymillsy"] Exactly, why can't people have choice as to what control scheme suits them?jaymillsy

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, you can buy whatever you want. What I'm calling you out for is the idea that it's okay to try to gain advantage over other players because you're not happy with your in-game performance. I'm not good at Call of Duty - know what I do? I play something else that I'm better at.lowe0

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

And if you're not host and you're sitting on anything less than a full 4 bar connection all the time, you might as well not even play. Any time I'm on 4 bars, I do consistenly well. (though it's still laggy, just not as much) I can remember when I had to play on a wi-fi connection a little last month, though. 2 and 3 bars at best all the time. The result: lag. Really bad lag.

We're talking firing 3-4 shots and hitting a guy, only to die, then watch the killcam, and see that I didn't even fire a shot. :? That's how bad it can be sometimes, and yet here you are acting like anyone wanting to attempt to counteract these problems is a cheater? Ha! But like I said, I'm probably not even buying the thing now, $150 is eh... a bit too expensive. Or I may end up buying it at some point, idk.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]I have no problem with how I do in Black Ops. I play it to have fun and do pretty well.

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

haberman13

Not entitled, but he can purchase an advantage!

I'm still not seeing why its a problem, this is the nature of capitalism/gaming/hobbies, embrace the upgradability IMO.

As I've said before, it isn't an upgrade. It's a complete change. You don't compete at the Archery stand with a Punt gun, why would you use a Mouse in a Controller game? Their category is different for a reason.

It's not the nature of capitalism/gaming/hobbies, it's the nature of a frustrated player who can't win on leveled ground and must, therefor, rely on skill-unrelated benefits.

it's the nature of a frustrated player who can't win on leveled groundTehOverkill

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]I have no problem with how I do in Black Ops. I play it to have fun and do pretty well.

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

Doolz2024

And if you're not host and you're sitting on anything less than a full 4 bar connection all the time, you might as well not even play. Any time I'm on 4 bars, I do consistenly well. (though it's still laggy, just not as much) I can remember when I had to play on a wi-fi connection a little last month, though. 2 and 3 bars at best all the time. The result: lag. Really bad lag.

We're talking firing 3-4 shots and hitting a guy, only to die, then watch the killcam, and see that I didn't even fire a shot. :? That's how bad it can be sometimes, and yet here you are acting like anyone wanting to attempt to counteract these problems is a cheater? Ha! But like I said, I'm probably not even buying the thing now, $150 is eh... a bit too expensive. Or I may end up buying it at some point, idk.

I thought Reach was actually being ported to PC. HOW DARE YE LIE TO ME! I actually had a hope of running it in HD (Since it isn't lolz) and 60 FPS.

lol at the comment section, thats was SW looks like without mods.....sooo unfettered

[QUOTE="TehOverkill"] it's the nature of a frustrated player who can't win on leveled groundDoolz2024

But really what this boils down to is that Microsoft has not licensed it, so they are in effect saying that you cannot use it on their system. That is what makes it cheating. If this were I licensed product, I'd say it's cheap, but not cheating as it's allowed. But by the user agreement, you are not allowed to use an unlicensed product with the 360, at least on Live. If so, they will ban you. The only reason why you aren't likely to be banned with this product yet is because it mimics a real controller, and they can't detect it...yet. You better believe the day that they can, the banhammer will come down hard on people. The only people who say this isn't cheating are the people who are trying to justify its usage. It's not the same as buying a better mouse or internet connection. This product is not allowed on XBox Live. What's so hard to understand about that? romans828_2002

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="TehOverkill"] it's the nature of a frustrated player who can't win on leveled groundDarkLink77

Not only that, but I could care less about Black Ops' issues. It has problems, problems for everyone. You're still being a bad sport and cheating if you use a XIM3 to get above those who are as equally troubled as you are.

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="TehOverkill"] it's the nature of a frustrated player who can't win on leveled groundDarkLink77

[QUOTE="romans828_2002"]But really what this boils down to is that Microsoft has not licensed it, so they are in effect saying that you cannot use it on their system. That is what makes it cheating. If this were I licensed product, I'd say it's cheap, but not cheating as it's allowed. But by the user agreement, you are not allowed to use an unlicensed product with the 360, at least on Live. If so, they will ban you. The only reason why you aren't likely to be banned with this product yet is because it mimics a real controller, and they can't detect it...yet. You better believe the day that they can, the banhammer will come down hard on people. The only people who say this isn't cheating are the people who are trying to justify its usage. It's not the same as buying a better mouse or internet connection. This product is not allowed on XBox Live. What's so hard to understand about that? jaymillsy

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]There's no such thing as a level playing field in Black Ops on consoles.

Doolz2024

I think its funny how everyone gets so defensive about people who have the XIM3, they act like by having this that player will automatically become an awesome player and will dominate. If the person is truly good at using the controller then who cares what they are using, you dont become a gaming god because you have the XIM3. Stop acting childish.

so much for the kb/m isn't superior arguement :D

I think its funny how everyone gets so defensive about people who have the XIM3, they act like by having this that player will automatically become an awesome player and will dominate. If the person is truly good at using the controller then who cares what they are using, you dont become a gaming god because you have the XIM3. Stop acting childish.

jaymillsy

I think its funny how everyone gets so defensive about people who have the XIM3, they act like by having this that player will automatically become an awesome player and will dominate. If the person is truly good at using the controller then who cares what they are using, you dont become a gaming god because you have the XIM3. Stop acting childish.

jaymillsy

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I think he's talking about Halo, man. Which has a pretty level playing field.DarkLink77

I think its funny how everyone gets so defensive about people who have the XIM3, they act like by having this that player will automatically become an awesome player and will dominate. If the person is truly good at using the controller then who cares what they are using, you dont become a gaming god because you have the XIM3. Stop acting childish.

And after all this there are still people who argue that controller > KB/M for FPS games :)

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jaymillsy"]

I think its funny how everyone gets so defensive about people who have the XIM3, they act like by having this that player will automatically become an awesome player and will dominate. If the person is truly good at using the controller then who cares what they are using, you dont become a gaming god because you have the XIM3. Stop acting childish.

jaymillsy

Stop kidding yourself. It's not just a remap: for all effects and purposes, the player now has a mouse and keyboard instead of a controller. Just google "optimizing XIM3 360" and you'll see.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]I have no problem with how I do in Black Ops. I play it to have fun and do pretty well.

My complaints are about the game itself. Like I said, the horrible hit detection, lag, the host advantage; That's what makes the game frustrating sometimes. Soooo, yeah.

Doolz2024

And if you're not host and you're sitting on anything less than a full 4 bar connection all the time, you might as well not even play. Any time I'm on 4 bars, I do consistenly well. (though it's still laggy, just not as much) I can remember when I had to play on a wi-fi connection a little last month, though. 2 and 3 bars at best all the time. The result: lag. Really bad lag.

We're talking firing 3-4 shots and hitting a guy, only to die, then watch the killcam, and see that I didn't even fire a shot. :? That's how bad it can be sometimes, and yet here you are acting like anyone wanting to attempt to counteract these problems is a cheater? Ha! But like I said, I'm probably not even buying the thing now, $150 is eh... a bit too expensive. Or I may end up buying it at some point, idk.

KB/M + aim assisst lol

That's like, auto win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgRxBwgvPUk

granted no where near the smooth/precise feeling of a game developed for the mouse.....but works pretty well. Yeah yeah...I know,.....it's "cheating".

lespaul1919

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Everyone has to deal with that. You're not entitled to an advantage.lowe0

And if you're not host and you're sitting on anything less than a full 4 bar connection all the time, you might as well not even play. Any time I'm on 4 bars, I do consistenly well. (though it's still laggy, just not as much) I can remember when I had to play on a wi-fi connection a little last month, though. 2 and 3 bars at best all the time. The result: lag. Really bad lag.

We're talking firing 3-4 shots and hitting a guy, only to die, then watch the killcam, and see that I didn't even fire a shot. :? That's how bad it can be sometimes, and yet here you are acting like anyone wanting to attempt to counteract these problems is a cheater? Ha! But like I said, I'm probably not even buying the thing now, $150 is eh... a bit too expensive. Or I may end up buying it at some point, idk.

The very fact that this thing even exists isa testament to how poor thumbsticks are for playing shooters. What I get from consolers is "we know controllers suck and we don't want that to change", when instead they should be embracing this as it will bring more players to console gaming.

That Raak09 guy in the comment section got good taste. :]

Really though the comment section is just disgusting. A couple of people need to grow up. :3

That Raak09 guy in the comment section got good taste. :]

Really though the comment section is just disgusting. A couple of people need to grow up. :3

timmy00

Looks like someone doesn't agree with you.