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#51 Stall0wn3d
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what are the chances, a remake of a remake of a game not very popular in the first place getting outsold by an RPG, in japan, who wouldve thought. and now lemmings think japan is ms land because of this :lol:
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#52 -L-U-I-S-
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Hmm, you're judging a game's sale's success/failure only by watching the numbers for the first day? Wow. How we wait about a week to get a better and clearer picture on how NGS does in Japan?

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#53 -CMG-
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Wow....bah Japan is irrelevant to NorthAmerican/ European gamers. They have bizarre tastesin games.

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#54 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]low scores IN JAPAN. Japan is on planet earth :|get on topic before attacking.

Blue Dragon was supposed to push 360 sales. it didn't.

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Give me examples of low scores, then.

And by the way you are wrong. Blue Dragon did sell systems in Japan, of course it was not enough to make the 360 compete there.

exactly :|

both famitsu and Dorimaga didn't give anything near AAA to NG. Dorimaga throwing in a bunch of 7s as well. definitely not the same calibur as reviews here.

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#55 Forza_2
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exactly :|

both famitsu and Dorimaga didn't give anything near AAA to NG. Dorimaga throwing in a bunch of 7s as well. definitely not the same calibur as reviews here.

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Famitsu gave Sigma a 33/40. http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=7857

You said that other reviewer gave it a 7 ? That's what you call low scores ? What else you got from Japan ?

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#56 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]Cows are famous for backtracking and denying everything. They always go to their fall back position WAIT FOR MGS4 and FFXIII. Socrates88

I bet you wish to backtrack when the Dreamcast was stilla live. LMAO!!!! owned!!!

Um exuse me while I go find my T.O picture.

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#57 jazreal
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[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]An Xbox 360 game outselling a PS3 game in Japan ... IN JAPAN .... TCHBOsquallff8_fan

TCHBO? for a game that didnt even sell a million copies from the orginal ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black, 20k is pretty damn good since none of the ninja gaiden games even sold well in japan in the first place. So I dont see what u are on about. Wait until folklore comes out there or scratch that why not wait until final fantasy 13 come out then lets see u talk. :P

lol....cows new saying for 07'..."JUST WAIT"....:P ya for the price to go down, for a certain game, for this, for that, just wait untill , just wait till, blah blah :) and while your waiting for ps3 to amount to "anything" you can enjoy the great games from both 360 and the wii.....or....you can JUST WAIT....
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#58 Blackbond
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PS3 won't sell in Japan until FFXIII and hopefully it won't be too late by then.
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#59 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

exactly :|

both famitsu and Dorimaga didn't give anything near AAA to NG. Dorimaga throwing in a bunch of 7s as well. definitely not the same calibur as reviews here.

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Famitsu gave Sigma a 33/40. http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=7857

You said that other reviewer gave it a 7 ? That's what you call low scores ? What else you got from Japan ?

like i said. nothing near AAA.

in a forum where an 8.9 is a flop... yes, it's not a hot score :| do you ever see people raving about 7 scores? didn't think so.

you can sugar coat it all you like... for a game like NG, you'd expect a lot more.

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#60 Forza_2
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Wow....bah Japan is irrelevant to NorthAmerican/ European gamers. They have bizarre tastesin games.

-CMG-

I'm pretty positive that you don't speak for all gamers when you say this.

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#61 Ibacai
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PS3 won't sell in Japan until FFXIII and hopefully it won't be too late by then.Blackbond
I'm predicting a pretty hefty spike for a few weeks starting on June 26th.
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#62 Forza_2
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like i said. nothing near AAA.

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That's not what you said first. You said LOW scores.

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#63 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

like i said. nothing near AAA.

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That's not what you said first. You said LOW scores.

7 is a low score, and famitsu isn't the only big namereviewer in Japan. Famitsu's review isn't as great as you're trying to make it out to be, soWHY THE HECK ARE YOU CONTINUING WITH THIS? do you honestly like your games scoring like that?

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#64 Forza_2
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7 is a low score, and famitsu isn't the only big namereviewer in Japan. Famitsu's review isn't as great as you're trying to make it out to be, soWHY THE HECK ARE YOU CONTINUING WITH THIS? do you honestly like your games scoring like that?

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Since you are claiming NGS is getting low scores in Japan, why don't you show me the scores from the big reviewers there ?

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#65 bigLLL
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360 fans and ps3 fansthe gamesBoth sold like crap!! The **** wii game probably outsold them combined which just shows how pathetic The worlds taste is games has become, thanks for that nintendo :/

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#66 soulsofblayck
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How in the hell can Ninja Gaiden not be popular in Japan?!

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#67 Chrono21X
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How in the hell can Ninja Gaiden not be popular in Japan?!

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Japanese are busy playing Brain Training games. :(

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[QUOTE="leadernator"]low scores IN JAPAN. Japan is on planet earth :|get on topic before attacking.

Blue Dragon was supposed to push 360 sales. it didn't.

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Give me examples of low scores, then.

And by the way you are wrong. Blue Dragon did sell systems in Japan, of course it was not enough to make the 360 compete there.

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have we all forgotten how weak japan is 2 almost any type of rpg's over there??!?!?!?! eternal sonata is a rpg, NGS is a ninja action game with little 2 no rpg type gameplay at all. Now the ps2 was a very huge hit 2 japan now ask urselves this; did DMC3 do as good in japan as it did in NA and EU???!?!? did GOW 1 and 2 did as good in japan as it did in NA and EU?????!!! no they didn't. It doesn't matter what system its on japan loves rpg's (especially really good ones) no matter how it looks or anything, in japan eyes it's rpg's 1st and then if they got time 4 anything else then they bite, but they r gonna get their rpg's if it's the last thing that they do

To all of the fanboys who says " there is no excuses a 360 game shouldn't outsell a ps3 game" it's not hard at all outselling the ps3 right now in japan in software content, but the real challenge is 2 try and outsell the ps3 hardware (with a price tag that it wears) as well in japan now that's the real chore

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[QUOTE="-Sora"]Has Ninja Gaiden ever sold well over there?Kinitari

It's never actually sold very well over here. But regardless, a bit disheartening.

On Xbox ive read a plenty of times its sold 900,000,thats overall.:|Thats not bad.
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

7 is a low score, and famitsu isn't the only big namereviewer in Japan. Famitsu's review isn't as great as you're trying to make it out to be, soWHY THE HECK ARE YOU CONTINUING WITH THIS? do you honestly like your games scoring like that?

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Since you are claiming NGS is getting low scores in Japan, why don't you show me the scores from the big reviewers there ?

i just gave you the dorimaga review :|

fact is, NGwas NOT a blockbuster hit in Japan, neitherwas it a sleeper hit. there's not really any arguing that.

you think 7s and low 8s are good scores.... fine with me. i don't. simple as that.

Blue Dragon didn't have its big impact in Japan. I'm glad you agree with that.

this whole little nit-pick deal you have isn't cool, and i'm sure you know that too. you won't get anything out of it, because you're not actually arguing :|

if you want the last word, fine. i'm done with you.

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#72 cakeorrdeath
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Wow, you guys are pathetic. A Japanese RPG game with lolis outsold a game that's been remade twice. Honestly, anyone that's surprised doesn't know anything about Japan.Slashkice

Considering the first Ninja Gaiden was an Xbox exclusive I don't think many people in Japan will have played it.

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#74 Forza_2
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i just gave you the dorimaga review :|

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That's all ? Famitsu gave it a pretty good score and not even you can deny that.
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#75 Timstuff
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In one day NGS has already sold a third of what NG for the Xbox sold in Japan since it launched. By the end of the month it will probably have passed it by a very significant ammount. If this success can carry over to the US, NGS will probably be a better selling game than Ninja Gaiden on Xbox, which will mean more Ninja Gaiden games for PS3 owners in the future! :)
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For as many PS3 and 360s are in Japanese homes, the percentage of people owning the games seems to widen the gap even further.
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#77 Acenso
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]An Xbox 360 game outselling a PS3 game in Japan ... IN JAPAN .... TCHBOasdasd

TCHBO? for a game that didnt even sell a million copies from the orginal ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black, 20k is pretty damn good since none of the ninja gaiden games even sold well in japan in the first place. So I dont see what u are on about. Wait until folklore comes out there or scratch that why not wait until final fantasy 13 come out then lets see u talk. :P

Dude, once FF13 comes out, I expect a HUGE spike of PS3 sales in Japan :P

In winter of 2008!!!

And one year after...We have Versus....

SAVE THE PS3 IN 2009

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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]An Xbox 360 game outselling a PS3 game in Japan ... IN JAPAN .... TCHBOjazreal

TCHBO? for a game that didnt even sell a million copies from the orginal ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black, 20k is pretty damn good since none of the ninja gaiden games even sold well in japan in the first place. So I dont see what u are on about. Wait until folklore comes out there or scratch that why not wait until final fantasy 13 come out then lets see u talk. :P

lol....cows new saying for 07'..."JUST WAIT"....:P ya for the price to go down, for a certain game, for this, for that, just wait untill , just wait till, blah blah :) and while your waiting for ps3 to amount to "anything" you can enjoy the great games from both 360 and the wii.....or....you can JUST WAIT....

So u think its funny when I say just wait but what for? U lemmings act like the ps3 has been out aslong as the xbox 360 and try an say buh buh buh no games, buh buh buh there is no need for HDMI, lmao. U make yourselves look bad because we all know deep inside why u always have excuses to bash on the ps3, because right now is a good time to do it while there arent many games, but when they do arrive, it will be a whole new ball game. Besides, if I were u I wouldnt be worried so much about other ppl's post, Id be more worried about the rings of death, lol. Anyways enjoy playing Tenchu Z while I play Ninja Gaiden Sigma, lmao. :P

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[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]An Xbox 360 game outselling a PS3 game in Japan ... IN JAPAN .... TCHBOsquallff8_fan

TCHBO? for a game that didnt even sell a million copies from the orginal ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black, 20k is pretty damn good since none of the ninja gaiden games even sold well in japan in the first place. So I dont see what u are on about. Wait until folklore comes out there or scratch that why not wait until final fantasy 13 come out then lets see u talk. :P

lol....cows new saying for 07'..."JUST WAIT"....:P ya for the price to go down, for a certain game, for this, for that, just wait untill , just wait till, blah blah :) and while your waiting for ps3 to amount to "anything" you can enjoy the great games from both 360 and the wii.....or....you can JUST WAIT....

So u think its funny when I say just wait but what for? U lemmings act like the ps3 has been out aslong as the xbox 360 and try an say buh buh buh no games, buh buh buh there is no need for HDMI, lmao. U make yourselves look bad because we all know deep inside why u always have excuses to bash on the ps3, because right now is a good time to do it while there arent many games, but when they do arrive, it will be a whole new ball game. Besides, if I were u I wouldnt be worried so much about other ppl's post, Id be more worried about the rings of death, lol. Anyways enjoy playing Tenchu Z while I play Ninja Gaiden Sigma, lmao. :P

Ur lucky you have a X360, cause i was about to say, enjoy a 2yr old port while we play NG2 :P
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Has Ninja Gaiden ever sold well over there?-Sora

It's an americanized take on japanese ninja's, of course it never did XD

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#81 Prid3r
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Don't expect it to be a succes in NA . Xbox sold like crap in japan , so barely anybody over there played NG/NGB, and yet , NGS for the PS3 still sold like crap ( wonder why :P ) . In NA , lot of people owned the Xbox and alot of people got to play NG and NGB .So don't expect better sells then those we see here .
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]An Xbox 360 game outselling a PS3 game in Japan ... IN JAPAN .... TCHBOE M I N 3 M

TCHBO? for a game that didnt even sell a million copies from the orginal ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black, 20k is pretty damn good since none of the ninja gaiden games even sold well in japan in the first place. So I dont see what u are on about. Wait until folklore comes out there or scratch that why not wait until final fantasy 13 come out then lets see u talk. :P

lol....cows new saying for 07'..."JUST WAIT"....:P ya for the price to go down, for a certain game, for this, for that, just wait untill , just wait till, blah blah :) and while your waiting for ps3 to amount to "anything" you can enjoy the great games from both 360 and the wii.....or....you can JUST WAIT....

So u think its funny when I say just wait but what for? U lemmings act like the ps3 has been out aslong as the xbox 360 and try an say buh buh buh no games, buh buh buh there is no need for HDMI, lmao. U make yourselves look bad because we all know deep inside why u always have excuses to bash on the ps3, because right now is a good time to do it while there arent many games, but when they do arrive, it will be a whole new ball game. Besides, if I were u I wouldnt be worried so much about other ppl's post, Id be more worried about the rings of death, lol. Anyways enjoy playing Tenchu Z while I play Ninja Gaiden Sigma, lmao. :P

Ur lucky you have a X360, cause i was about to say, enjoy a 2yr old port while we play NG2 :P

Oh really? When does NG2 come out? Because last I checked, it doesn't have a release date AT ALL, while NGS comes out next week, so you will most certainly NOT be playing NG2 while I'm playing my "2 year old port." :P:P

And ontop of that, NGS is probably going to sell just as well as if not better than the Xbox NG, so we'll be getting NG2 as well. So please stop the "While you play a 2 year old NG port, I'll be playing NG2!", because we'll have finished NGS LONG before NG2 comes out, and when it does come out, we'll get to play that one too. :)

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#83 Prid3r
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

NG was never a hit in Japan, not even in Japanese reviews.

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simply an excuse. there's no reason a 360 game should be outselling a premiere game like NG on a console that really has nothing else interesting to play.

it's a fact :|

NG isn't a "premiere" title in Japan, and it never was. With two installments, it never sold much, and it never scored so hot either.

don't try so hard man.

Both game scored AAA in famitsu . As for sales . it was a Xbox game . there not even 1M xbox ( original ) sold over there.

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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]Wow, you guys are pathetic. A Japanese RPG game with lolis outsold a game that's been remade twice. Honestly, anyone that's surprised doesn't know anything about Japan.cakeorrdeath

Considering the first Ninja Gaiden was an Xbox exclusive I don't think many people in Japan will have played it.

It's not the fact that it's pretty much unknown but the actual type of game. *shrug*
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]An Xbox 360 game outselling a PS3 game in Japan ... IN JAPAN .... TCHBOE M I N 3 M

TCHBO? for a game that didnt even sell a million copies from the orginal ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden black, 20k is pretty damn good since none of the ninja gaiden games even sold well in japan in the first place. So I dont see what u are on about. Wait until folklore comes out there or scratch that why not wait until final fantasy 13 come out then lets see u talk. :P

lol....cows new saying for 07'..."JUST WAIT"....:P ya for the price to go down, for a certain game, for this, for that, just wait untill , just wait till, blah blah :) and while your waiting for ps3 to amount to "anything" you can enjoy the great games from both 360 and the wii.....or....you can JUST WAIT....

So u think its funny when I say just wait but what for? U lemmings act like the ps3 has been out aslong as the xbox 360 and try an say buh buh buh no games, buh buh buh there is no need for HDMI, lmao. U make yourselves look bad because we all know deep inside why u always have excuses to bash on the ps3, because right now is a good time to do it while there arent many games, but when they do arrive, it will be a whole new ball game. Besides, if I were u I wouldnt be worried so much about other ppl's post, Id be more worried about the rings of death, lol. Anyways enjoy playing Tenchu Z while I play Ninja Gaiden Sigma, lmao. :P

Ur lucky you have a X360, cause i was about to say, enjoy a 2yr old port while we play NG2 :P

LMAO yeah well gotta have the best of both worlds, lol. :P And yes Ninja Gaiden 2 will be awesome.

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#87 Timstuff
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NG2 will indeed be awesome. Good thing it will be multiplat, unless NGS sells really poorly. :)
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Mmmmmmmmm.......looks like those Japanese boys don't wanna play with the Playstation 3........mmmmmmmmmm
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#89 Forza_2
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Good thing it will be multiplatTimstuff

Is that because NGS is on the PS3 ? If so, can I assume that MGS4 is coming to the 360 since both MGS1 and 2 were multiplatform ?

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[QUOTE="Prid3r"]Don't expect it to be a succes in NA . Xbox sold like crap in japan , so barely anybody over there played NG/NGB, and yet , NGS for the PS3 still sold like crap ( wonder why :P ) . In NA , lot of people owned the Xbox and alot of people got to play NG and NGB .So don't expect better sells then those we see here .Slashkice

Can I borrow your time machine? Ya know, since NGS hasn't even been out for a week yet.

You don't need a time machine, just some common sense. Just cause you wasted 599 USD on a paperweight doesn't mean lots of other people will.

You bought a big black box with Sony on it and wasted money. I should put Sony on some empty cardboard boxes and I bet cows would buy them.

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#91 SpaceDragonMan
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I'm not surprised, Japanese gamers have poor tastes in games...
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#92 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

NG was never a hit in Japan, not even in Japanese reviews.

Prid3r

simply an excuse. there's no reason a 360 game should be outselling a premiere game like NG on a console that really has nothing else interesting to play.

it's a fact :|

NG isn't a "premiere" title in Japan, and it never was. With two installments, it never sold much, and it never scored so hot either.

don't try so hard man.

Both game scored AAA in famitsu . As for sales . it was a Xbox game . there not even 1M xbox ( original ) sold over there.

no they didn't :| where the heck are you pulling this crap from?

i can understand that you don't want to read this entire thread, but all of your points have already been shot down. another xbox fanboy even posted a link debunking you :P

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#93 leadernator
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I'm not surprised, Japanese gamers have poor tastes in games...SpaceDragonMan

actually, besides FPS games, they pretty much like the same games we do :|

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#94 joeychew
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JRPG always sell well in japan....cant waitfor Eternal sonata myself..
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#95 choasgod
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Whoa ... i amazed !

Ninja Gaiden Sigma in 24 hours in JAPAN *only* sold 20k units ... i mean thats disgracful even Ninja Gaiden Ninja Gaiden Black on the Xbox in Japan sold 66k in its lifetime ....

AND an JRPG sold better in Japan then a adventure/fighting game ! I mean Ninja Gaiden Sigma MUST suck because Eternal Sonata AND Folksoul for competition how on earth could it be so bad as to take a whole 24 hours to sell 30% of the TOTAL copies of Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden Sigma ...

On a serious note though how did Folksoul sell ?
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#96 Kahuna_1
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How in the hell can Ninja Gaiden not be popular in Japan?!

soulsofblayck

Because it started out on Xbox, and they hate Xbox, and now, it is too late even for a Japanese system to save the franchise because no one cares about it.

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#97 SpaceDragonMan
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[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]I'm not surprised, Japanese gamers have poor tastes in games...leadernator

actually, besides FPS games, they pretty much like the same games we do :|

............................No, do some research before you try to own me with the ever so pretentious this: :|

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#98 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]I'm not surprised, Japanese gamers have poor tastes in games...SpaceDragonMan

actually, besides FPS games, they pretty much like the same games we do :|

............................No, do some research before you try to own me with the ever so pretentious this: :|

i wasn't trying to own you, you just claimed something pretty ignorant.

Japanese people like JRPGs, guess what, so do we! the send a lot of them over here, and we do buy a lot of them too.

you also got Fighting games, Epic games,racing games, Nintendo games.... i think there's a pretty neutral liking of games here.

Japanese like brain training... BrainAge was another top seller here. Katamari? what? crazy Japanese game? we like it too!

hey man, don't blamethe indifferent smiley, it's there for a reason :|

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#99 retrib
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That expected, considering the 360 has been out for over a year in japan.
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#100 Tamarind_Face
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Why are people shocked? An RPG selling better than an action game in japan? are you guys new to the game world?

"DUH"