Flopped games this year you actually enjoyed?

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#101 Tyrant156
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Actually they are flopsrandomwiiplayer

Actually they are not. A flop is a game that does very poorly,

Wrong. A flop is a game that doesn't meet the hype. If a game is hyped 9, and gets 8.9, it's a flop. It doesn't mean it is a bad game.

Uh no lol a game thats a 8.9 is not a flop EVER. A game that doesnt met expectations EXACTLY is not a flop. The term flop is used in extreme cases of failure not just slight cases sorry but you're wrong. SW has just twisted the termanology so people can just call games that slighty under preform "FLOPS" and it seriously needs to stop. People sound dumb calling Alan Wake and Heavy Rain flops when they clearly are not.
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#102 TheGrayEye
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="Tyrant156"] Actually they are not. A flop is a game that does very poorly,Tyrant156

Wrong. A flop is a game that doesn't meet the hype. If a game is hyped 9, and gets 8.9, it's a flop. It doesn't mean it is a bad game.

Uh no lol a game thats a 8.9 is not a flop EVER. A game that doesnt met expectations EXACTLY is not a flop. The term flop is used in extreme cases of failure not just slight cases sorry but you're wrong. SW has just twisted the termanology so people can just call games that slighty under preform "FLOPS" and it seriously needs to stop. People sound dumb calling Alan Wake and Heavy Rain flops when they clearly are not.

I agree 100% There is no question about it, it's actually quite comical.

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#103 johnnyblazed88
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metro 2033 and dante's inferno

both scored under 8 and were very enjoyable imo

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#104 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Alan Wake flopped by the System Wars rules, but really, it is a compelling story experience that shouldn't be missed.

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#105 Tyrant156
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Alan Wake and Heavy Rain are not flops. They both may have been hyped as AAA but I do not see being 8.5 as a flop in any way. Anyways, I really enjoyed Dante's Inferno, maybe more than God of War 3.

TheGrayEye

Actually they are flops

Really? Flop:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/FLOP

"3.To fail utterly"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/flop

5: to fail completely

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/flop

3. if a play, film, or new product flops, it is completely unsuccessful

Hm, interesting...

YES! This guy couldn't be more right! A Flop is a failure not a slight disappointment

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#106 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Actually they are flopsTyrant156

Really? Flop:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/FLOP

"3.To fail utterly"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/flop

5: to fail completely

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/flop

3. if a play, film, or new product flops, it is completely unsuccessful

Hm, interesting...

YES! This guy couldn't be more right! A Flop is a failure not a slight disappointment

Actually, we have our own criteria for flop, here in System Wars. Any game who's score (going strictly by Gamespot) that didn't meet the hype, is a flop. This doesn't go by numeric differences either, just by rank. So a game scoring 8.0 instead of 8.5 is not a flop, but getting AA instead of AAA is. This also is to say, that a flop doesn't necessarily mean a bad game or a commercial failure. It's only the rules of the metagame of System Wars, score against the hype. That's how its done here and doesn't reflect the meaning of the word in the outside world.

This can be found in the Welcome and Information sticky post.

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#107 TheGrayEye
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"]

[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]

Really? Flop:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/FLOP

"3.To fail utterly"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/flop

5: to fail completely

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/flop

3. if a play, film, or new product flops, it is completely unsuccessful

Hm, interesting...

AdobeArtist

YES! This guy couldn't be more right! A Flop is a failure not a slight disappointment

Actually, we have our own criteria for flop, here in System Wars. Any game who's score (going strictly by Gamespot) that didn't meet the hype, is a flop. This doesn't go by numeric differences either, just by rank. So a game scoring 8.0 instead of 8.5 is not a flop, but getting AA instead of AAA is.

This can be found in the Welcome and Information sticky post.

Then that is a terrible use of the word. It has no range. According to the SW definition, both Lair and Alan Wake are flops. This is probably the most hilariously warped definition for a word, that I've seen in a long time.

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#108 SolidTy
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If you mean FLOPS this year by the worldly standard, I can't answer...but if you mean System War's Flops (by Hype vs. Score), I enjoyed Splinter Cell : Conviction as I played it with a few friends,and it's still really fun Co Op.

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#109 Lord_Omikron666
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No More Heroes 2. So much fun, I've played through thrice on all difficulties.

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#110 metalgear-solid
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"]

[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]

Really? Flop:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/FLOP

"3.To fail utterly"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/flop

5: to fail completely

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/flop

3. if a play, film, or new product flops, it is completely unsuccessful

Hm, interesting...

AdobeArtist

YES! This guy couldn't be more right! A Flop is a failure not a slight disappointment

Actually, we have our own criteria for flop, here in System Wars. Any game who's score (going strictly by Gamespot) that didn't meet the hype, is a flop. This doesn't go by numeric differences either, just by rank. So a game scoring 8.0 instead of 8.5 is not a flop, but getting AA instead of AAA is. This also is to say, that a flop doesn't necessarily mean a bad game or a commercial failure. It's only the rules of the metagame of System Wars, score against the hype. That's how its done here and doesn't reflect the meaning of the word in the outside world.

This can be found in the Welcome and Information sticky post.

If that's the case, then GameSpot has severly misunderstood the word 'flop'. Now GameSpot's simply using it to get fanboys to fight and call games flops all the time. Pathetic.

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#111 Malta_1980
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dont care about the hype surrounding games, for games to flop they must get average scores of not more than 7/10, so anything above 7.5 should be considered decent/good...

So far this year have not played any games which got low scores...

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#112 DragonfireXZ95
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Alpha Protocol for sure. If Heavy Rain is considered a flop, then I enjoyed that flop also.
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#113 Cherokee_Jack
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None. Haven't played any flops as far as I know.

The flop I will most enjoy this year (pending future scores, of course) is probably either Alan Wake or Alpha Protocol. I might be able to narrow it down soon because I'm getting Alpha Protocol tomorrow.

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#115 tbone802
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[QUOTE="Tyrant156"][QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Wrong. A flop is a game that doesn't meet the hype. If a game is hyped 9, and gets 8.9, it's a flop. It doesn't mean it is a bad game.

rp108

Uh no lol a game thats a 8.9 is not a flop EVER. A game that doesnt met expectations EXACTLY is not a flop. The term flop is used in extreme cases of failure not just slight cases sorry but you're wrong. SW has just twisted the termanology so people can just call games that slighty under preform "FLOPS" and it seriously needs to stop. People sound dumb calling Alan Wake and Heavy Rain flops when they clearly are not.

I am so embarrased when I see people call these games a flop. They sound like complete morons. I knew there was a serious problem on these forums when I posted God of War 3 as a flop I enjoyed. No one disputed it and the game scored a 9.0!

That's because everyone here knows GOW3 didn't flop so you really just looked like a troll.
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#116 FIipMode
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I enjoyed HR a lot, it was a great flop.
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#117 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="Tyrant156"] YES! This guy couldn't be more right! A Flop is a failure not a slight disappointment

TheGrayEye

Actually, we have our own criteria for flop, here in System Wars. Any game who's score (going strictly by Gamespot) that didn't meet the hype, is a flop. This doesn't go by numeric differences either, just by rank. So a game scoring 8.0 instead of 8.5 is not a flop, but getting AA instead of AAA is.

This can be found in the Welcome and Information sticky post.

Then that is a terrible use of the word. It has no range. According to the SW definition, both Lair and Alan Wake are flops. This is probably the most hilariously warped definition for a word, that I've seen in a long time.

It's pretty simple yet people can't understand it for some reason.
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#118 205212669269561485377169522720
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Well I enjoyed Alan Wake, Heavy Rain & thought that Conviction was pretty good.

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#119 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Actually, we have our own criteria for flop, here in System Wars. Any game who's score (going strictly by Gamespot) that didn't meet the hype, is a flop. This doesn't go by numeric differences either, just by rank. So a game scoring 8.0 instead of 8.5 is not a flop, but getting AA instead of AAA is.

This can be found in the Welcome and Information sticky post.

Chutebox

Then that is a terrible use of the word. It has no range. According to the SW definition, both Lair and Alan Wake are flops. This is probably the most hilariously warped definition for a word, that I've seen in a long time.

It's pretty simple yet people can't understand it for some reason.

It's because they can't take their favorite games flopping. I honestly hated the fact that R&C Tools was a flop but hey at least I go with it now. Anywho at this point, take it or leave it I guess.

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#120 TheGrayEye
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[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Actually, we have our own criteria for flop, here in System Wars. Any game who's score (going strictly by Gamespot) that didn't meet the hype, is a flop. This doesn't go by numeric differences either, just by rank. So a game scoring 8.0 instead of 8.5 is not a flop, but getting AA instead of AAA is.

This can be found in the Welcome and Information sticky post.

Chutebox

Then that is a terrible use of the word. It has no range. According to the SW definition, both Lair and Alan Wake are flops. This is probably the most hilariously warped definition for a word, that I've seen in a long time.

It's pretty simple yet people can't understand it for some reason.

Lol, I perfectly understand it. Doesn't change the fact that it looks stupid as hell to see responses like Alan Wake, Conviction, and Heavy Rain in a section about games that flopped.

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#121 AdmiralRJW
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Heavy Rain and Alan Wake, if they're considered flops.

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#122 vashkey
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Army of Two: The 40th Day.
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#123 Sollet
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mmm a lot of people seem to be enjoying Alpha Protocol a lot.... might get it when it's cheaper :P
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#124 ratchet_ruler88
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Isn't a flop based on sales not critics reviews?

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#125 ZippySlappy
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Ratchet and Clank:TOD. Great game.
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#126 lundy86_4
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Isn't a flop based on sales not critics reviews?

ratchet_ruler88

Flop is based on the GS score not reaching hype in SW. For example, scored AA by GS but hyped AAA by SW.

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#127 dommeus
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Alan Wake, Alpha Protocol, Final Fantasy XIII (so far), Dantes Inferno, Metro 2033

EDIT : woops didn't read poll title.

Alan Wake

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#128 Mike885
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final fantasy 13

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#129 finalfantasy94
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SO far alpha protocol and AVP.

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#130 gamedude234
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lost planet 2 deserved a 7.5-8.0 IMO

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#131 codezer0
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]I really hate it when people call a 8.5 "flop". Sure, maybe the expected score was a 9, but calling a 8.5 game a flop is just wrong. But in that case, my vote also goes to Heavy Rain. Best movie this gen after MGS4.

Fixed. :P :lol:
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#132 shaggyaz
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alien vs predator

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#133 ratchet_ruler88
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[QUOTE="ratchet_ruler88"]

Isn't a flop based on sales not critics reviews?

lundy86_4

Flop is based on the GS score not reaching hype in SW. For example, scored AA by GS but hyped AAA by SW.

Oh, I see, thanks.
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#134 kozzy1234
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Alpha Protocol is amazing and in this years top 3 games imo (Up there with Red Dead and Mass Effect2).

9/10 for me, its got the best decisions/choices that effect the story ive ever seen, awesome story, good gameplay and tons of rpg elements.

Heavy Rain and Alan Wake are awesome aswell and deserve more praise.

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#135 dark-warmachine
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Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, still wondering why it scored a 7.5 here. Anyway,I would note Alan Wake but that game was as boring as GTA4.

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#136 Deathtransit
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AW and HR.
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#137 moose_knuckler
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This year: Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, and I'm guessing SC:C is one as well so there.
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#138 rp108
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Isn't a flop based on sales not critics reviews?

ratchet_ruler88

In the real world yes. Here in fantasy land not so much.

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#139 Eleckidding
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Super Mario Galaxy 2
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#140 djsifer01
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Dantes Inferno, Alpha Protocol, White Knight Chronicles and Dark Void.
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#141 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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metro 2033 but that really didnt flop.
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#142 Cherokee_Jack
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Alpha Protocol is actually kind of impressing me. :| It's obviously janky even this early in the game, and I can't really speak for how the shooting feels because most of the shooting I've been doing is careful headshots with the pistol, but so far I've really had fun with it. It actually feels less like an RPG at this stage and more like a (last-gen) Splinter Cell game with a lower barrier for entry and less insistence on not being seen, which is always what I wanted out of Splinter Cell anyway. This might actually be better than Alan Wake for me.
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#143 Grawse
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MAG. I don't mind the mediocre reviews it got. I can understand that most reviewers got their asses handed to them and blamed bad graphics :P

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#144 jg4xchamp
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None out of actual flops System Wars flops I liked Heavy Rain. It's a unqiue experience. It has some sloppyness to it, but it's so interesting that I'm cool with it.