For all the haters of Nitnendo's New Stradegy!!!

1. It's working>> it will soon put them at the #1 spot.

2. I love the idea that I can introduce games to friends and familty who don't ususally play them. My gf is playig games with me now and we have a blast together.

3. Here in America we are fat. We are suffering from a major epidemic of obesity. If you can make excersie fun and make it a game then your golden to alot of people. I applaud Nintendo for thier efforts and wish other companies would focus on Making Excersie Fun.

4. They still got the hardcore games: Zelda, Metroid, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Galaxy, Prime, Resident Evil, etc etc. Just because they throw other factors into the mix does not make then Anti-hardcore.

1. It's working>> it will soon put them at the #1 spot.

2. I love the idea that I can introduce games to friends and familty who don't ususally play them. My gf is playig games with me now and we have a blast together.

3. Here in America we are fat. We are suffering from a major epidemic of obesity. If you can make excersie fun and make it a game then your golden to alot of people. I applaud Nintendo for thier efforts and wish other companies would focus on Making Excersie Fun.

4. They still got the hardcore games: Zelda, Metroid, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Galaxy, Prime, Resident Evil, etc etc. Just because they throw other factors into the mix does not make then Anti-hardcore.

Nin360

I have no problem with the rest, but the lineup for gamers is poor, you cannot deny that.

What comes after the games you listed?

What comes after the games you listed?

norfair_dweller

What comes after the games you listed?

norfair_dweller

None of the developers are showing anything further out then this year. Nintendo will always produce great 1st party. They are giving us Zelda, Mario G, Metroid, and SSBB all in one year how much more can you ask for? Seriously Nintendo is not slacking on their hardcore gamers.

What comes after the games you listed?

norfair_dweller

Beats me. But neither sony or MS have a single game listed for release or even announced after early 08.

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

What comes after the games you listed?

Firelore29

None of the developers are showing anything further out then this year. Nintendo will always produce great 1st party. They are giving us Zelda, Mario G, Metroid, and SSBB all in one year how much more can you ask for? Seriously Nintendo is not slacking on their hardcore gamers.

Actually Sony showed a few 08 games. The only 08 Wii game shown was Mario Kart.

Making their focus "games for everyone" will turn series like Metroid into casual trash. I don't want that. They should have three tiers of games. Something for the core gamers, something for the casual gamers and something for the non-gamers. They even said at the beginning of their conference that their main audience was 95% core gamers... yet their main attraction was a non-gamer exercise "game" or what should be called a "non-game." They are taking the entirely wrong route with their games, if they weren't supported by the core gamer through the 64 and GC years, they wouldn't be here to make the Wii.foxhound_fox

have you seen MP3? doesn't look like casual trash to me.

Nintendo's line-up is perfectly fine...

Super Mario Galaxy - November 12
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Fire Emblem: Godess of Dawn - November5

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Metroid Prime 3 - August 27
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Super Mario Strikers Charged - July 30
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Battalion Wars 2 - October 29

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Endless Ocean - October 29

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Super Smash Brothers: Brawl - December 3
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Trauma Center: New Blood - TBA 2007

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Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles - TBA 2007
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Zach & Wiki: Quest for Barbaro's Treasure - TBA 2007

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Disaster: Day of Crisis - TBA 2007
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Why did I add Disaster? Look what Nintendo put next to their press release about the Wii Zapper!

Wii Zapper : It arrives on store shelves later this year, packaged with Nintendo-developed software that shows off its versatility.

This HAS to be Disaster!

Ill be buying more Nintendo titles than any others this year. MP3, SMG, SSBB, BWii, Trauma Center, and depending on reviews- RE:UC, Zack and Wiki, Disaster.

Im buying Mass Effect, Halo 3, Assasins Creed, and Rock Band on 360.

I need more money... :(

Here in America we are fat. Nin360

have you seen MP3? doesn't look like casual trash to me.Ontain

So the Wii is going to cure obesity in America :roll:funnymario

its gonna kill the game industry too:roll:

[QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. It's working>> it will soon put them at the #1 spot.

2. I love the idea that I can introduce games to friends and familty who don't ususally play them. My gf is playig games with me now and we have a blast together.

3. Here in America we are fat. We are suffering from a major epidemic of obesity. If you can make excersie fun and make it a game then your golden to alot of people. I applaud Nintendo for thier efforts and wish other companies would focus on Making Excersie Fun.

4. They still got the hardcore games: Zelda, Metroid, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Galaxy, Prime, Resident Evil, etc etc. Just because they throw other factors into the mix does not make then Anti-hardcore.

Meu2k7

I have no problem with the rest, but the lineup for gamers is poor, you cannot deny that.

I do deny it. I love the list of games that are coming out. Its poor in your opinion.

[QUOTE="funnymario"]So the Wii is going to cure obesity in America :roll:edeasknight

its gonna kill the game industry too:roll:

You have a point there edeasknight.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]have you seen MP3? doesn't look like casual trash to me.foxhound_fox

action RPG? I dont think there will be another Metroid Game this Gen. Im hoping Retro goes back and makes Raven Blade! :D or a different new IP, they have so much talent over there!

As far as the future of Metroid... im thinking full galactic exploration with co-op usuing Federation troopers! =D

So the Wii is going to cure obesity in America :roll:funnymario

NO but if it could get thousands to lose weight then it helps.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]have you seen MP3? doesn't look like casual trash to me.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="funnymario"]So the Wii is going to cure obesity in America :roll:edeasknight

its gonna kill the game industry too:roll:

It WILL. Next-Gen will be evidence of that. MS will have only stuff like Halo and GTA/Madden with the rest being casual trash because of Nintendo. The same goes for Sony.

You guys act like SOny and Microsoft really care about the "hardcore" gamer as well. No they don't. They care about he money just like Nintendo. Nitnendo just has a wider vision and is expanding thier machien behind just a geek box. Sony and Microsoft will be following suit very soon when the Wii starts handing thier butts to them like it already has.Nin360

hope some developer somewhere makes a decent game to keep people happy.Ninja-Vox

So metroid should, according to you, go from 2d side scroller to 3d FPA to Action RPG? wth?nintendofreak_2

You guys keep throwing around Mario and Zelda and SSBB, like they're automatically hardcore, when in fact they are being (and have been) casualized just like all of the other games Nintendo is releasing.

I mean, did you play Zelda: TP? It was a cakewalk! And Mario Galaxy and SSBBB are going to be even more casual.

Nintendo games have always evolved and improved. Keeping things the same will just stagnate them. Metroid is absolutely begging for an RPG with deep NPC character interaction and deep, branching storylines to be made for it. Nitnendo and Retro have been expanding the universe for a decade already, there is tons of stuff in the universe... enough stuff for their to be an RPG. Metroid: Fusion has pretty much proven that Samus wants to speak, quite in depth about things as well. She already has a complex personality and we have only seen her speak in one game.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Nin360"] You guys act like SOny and Microsoft really care about the "hardcore" gamer as well. No they don't. They care about he money just like Nintendo. Nitnendo just has a wider vision and is expanding thier machien behind just a geek box. Sony and Microsoft will be following suit very soon when the Wii starts handing thier butts to them like it already has.PBSnipes

Nintendo has (most of) their hardcore fans already buying their systems already. I, for one, knew I wanted the system the second they revealed, even knowing nothing about the games or controller.

Nintendo right now is expanding the audience, no doubt about it. They're doing this with titles like Wii Fit and Sports. They want people to know about these games; that is why they are spending so much effort showing these games off. Wii Sports is not enough to attract casual gamers; Wii Fit will help with that. If Nintendo wants to expand the audience to these people, they have to sound like they care about the casuals. If they spent more time showing off hardcore games, would they have attracted that many more people? Not necessarily, since, like I said, I already have a Wii. Trailers and game announcements are good enough for me. Go ahead and have demonstrations of Wii Fit to attract the casuals. Hardcore gamers will be going to online sites anyway and finding about these hardcore games.

With titles like MP3, SMG, and SSBB, and I'm sure they have tons of other first-party games in their line-up for 2008, I'm happy as a harcore gamer. I don't feel neglected at all.

You guys keep throwing around Mario and Zelda and SSBB, like they're automatically hardcore, when in fact they are being (and have been) casualized just like all of the other games Nintendo is releasing.

I mean, did you play Zelda: TP? It was a cakewalk! And Mario Galaxy and SSBBB are going to be even more casual.

jetthrovegas

Thank you for your in-depth analysis of SMG and SSBB. SSBB may be simple to play and get into, which is great for casual gamers, there is a depth for hardcore and competitive gamers. I can't speak for SMG since I haven't played it--have you?--but it's fricking Mario and his platformers always have a good amount of challenge.

It's missingout on the big 3rd party games. GTA 5, RE 5, etc...redneckdouglas

And for all we know, one of these days a third-party will make an incredible game on the Wii using it's remote to the fullest that it can't done on the 360 and PS3, and it's MS and Sony that will be missing out. Even big games have to start somewhere.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Nin360"] You guys act like SOny and Microsoft really care about the "hardcore" gamer as well. No they don't. They care about he money just like Nintendo. Nitnendo just has a wider vision and is expanding thier machien behind just a geek box. Sony and Microsoft will be following suit very soon when the Wii starts handing thier butts to them like it already has.DaAznSaN

Nintendo has (most of) their hardcore fans already buying their systems already. I, for one, knew I wanted the system the second they revealed, even knowing nothing about the games or controller.

Nintendo right now is expanding the audience, no doubt about it. They're doing this with titles like Wii Fit and Sports. They want people to know about these games; that is why they are spending so much effort showing these games off. Wii Sports is not enough to attract casual gamers; Wii Fit will help with that. If Nintendo wants to expand the audience to these people, they have to sound like they care about the casuals. If they spent more time showing off hardcore games, would they have attracted that many more people? Not necessarily, since, like I said, I already have a Wii. Trailers and game announcements are good enough for me. Go ahead and have demonstrations of Wii Fit to attract the casuals. Hardcore gamers will be going to online sites anyway and finding about these hardcore games.

With titles like MP3, SMG, and SSBB, and I'm sure they have tons of other first-party games in their line-up for 2008, I'm happy as a harcore gamer. I don't feel neglected at all.

SMG hardcore? SSBB hardcore? Don't make me laugh. Those games are going to be easier and more casualized than Zelda: TP even.

MP3 is the only first party title you have coming that can be called "hardcore".

SMG and SSBB will be more casual and easy to get in to than Paris Hilton's pants.

SMG hardcore? SSBBB hardcore? Don't make me laugh. Those games are going to be easier and more casualized than Zelda: TP even.

MP3 is the only first party title you have coming that can becalled "hardcore".

SMG and SSBB will be more casual than a late night **** with Paris Hilton.

jetthrovegas

Considering you have such a twisted view of what makes a game hardcore, I don't even know why I should bother because obviously I can't change your mind and you can't change mine.

SMG hardcore? SSBB hardcore? Don't make me laugh. Those games are going to be easier and more casualized than Zelda: TP even.

MP3 is the only first party title you have coming that can be called "hardcore".

SMG and SSBB will be more casual and easy to get in to than Paris Hilton's pants.

jetthrovegas

[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

SMG hardcore? SSBB hardcore? Don't make me laugh. Those games are going to be easier and more casualized than Zelda: TP even.

MP3 is the only first party title you have coming that can be called "hardcore".

SMG and SSBB will be more casual and easy to get in to than Paris Hilton's pants.

nintendofreak_2

Hey man, I've never claimed to be a Halo fan, I have dissed the series on many occasions as being simplistic and repetitive. And yes, Halo appealed to a lot of 12 year olds, BFD. I admit that, I don't even like Halo, it's too easy.

But stop ignoring my point: Nintendo is lacking more than one (MP3) hardcore gaming title in its upocming line-up, and that's something that needs to be addressed... unless of course the Wii is only trying to appeal to casuals, which it is.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Nin360"] You guys act like SOny and Microsoft really care about the "hardcore" gamer as well. No they don't. They care about he money just like Nintendo. Nitnendo just has a wider vision and is expanding thier machien behind just a geek box. Sony and Microsoft will be following suit very soon when the Wii starts handing thier butts to them like it already has.DaAznSaN

Nintendo has (most of) their hardcore fans already buying their systems already. I, for one, knew I wanted the system the second they revealed, even knowing nothing about the games or controller.

Nintendo right now is expanding the audience, no doubt about it. They're doing this with titles like Wii Fit and Sports. They want people to know about these games; that is why they are spending so much effort showing these games off. Wii Sports is not enough to attract casual gamers; Wii Fit will help with that. If Nintendo wants to expand the audience to these people, they have to sound like they care about the casuals. If they spent more time showing off hardcore games, would they have attracted that many more people? Not necessarily, since, like I said, I already have a Wii. Trailers and game announcements are good enough for me. Go ahead and have demonstrations of Wii Fit to attract the casuals. Hardcore gamers will be going to online sites anyway and finding about these hardcore games.

With titles like MP3, SMG, and SSBB, and I'm sure they have tons of other first-party games in their line-up for 2008, I'm happy as a harcore gamer. I don't feel neglected at all.

As for new games I'm hoping Nintendo is saving game announcements for another event like TGS because based on the E3 presentation it seems like Nintendo's development team is more worried about games for the people who thinksolitaire is the be all and end all of gaming than the people who appreciate games like MP and RE4,games that are deep and take skill andthought to beat. My worry is that other than the odd Metroid or Zelda gamethe only games coming out will be in the same strain as WiiFit and Elebits.

Nintendo showed comparatively as many '08 titles as MS and Sony. Yes they spent a lot of time on a "non-game" Personally I thought MS spent a lot of time on Rock Band or whatever it was. Oh well.

I have to laugh at the people arguing about "no hardcore games", "Zelda, Mario, SSBB are not hardcore" I've read too many threads on here where people can't defend what a hardcore gamer are and now you're trying to say what games are hardcore.

Hey man, I've never claimed to be a Halo fan, I have dissed the series on many occasions as being simplistic and repetitive. And yes, Halo appealed to a lot of 12 year olds, BFD. I admit that, I don't even like Halo, it's too easy.

But stop ignoring my point: Nintendo is lacking more than one (MP3) hardcore gaming title in its upocming line-up, and that's something that needs to be addressed... unless of course the Wii is only trying to appeal to casuals, which it is.

jetthrovegas

[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

Hey man, I've never claimed to be a Halo fan, I have dissed the series on many occasions as being simplistic and repetitive. And yes, Halo appealed to a lot of 12 year olds, BFD. I admit that, I don't even like Halo, it's too easy.

But stop ignoring my point: Nintendo is lacking more than one (MP3) hardcore gaming title in its upocming line-up, and that's something that needs to be addressed... unless of course the Wii is only trying to appeal to casuals, which it is.

nintendofreak_2

You hope. It may be the last one to be hardcore.