For nextgen should I go pc?

Nope, PC gaming is dead.

PC's don't have gens XD and $1000 will do just fine against next-gen consoles, which will become outdated anyways on launch day. Next-Gen consoles will most likely start using APU's meaning not a huge gap in performance compared to today's consoles. and there area A LOT OF PC Exclusives, I discover new ones everyday....the list is way too large to list >.>ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

For nextgen should I go pc? Wouldnt a good gaming pc now do better than what a next gen console from sony or microsoft would do?

I think im just gonna borrow money from a student loan or something to build me a gaming computer. Probably $1000 budget. Would a $1000 budget gaming pc hold up to what the nextgen consoles will do?

What pc exclusives do I have to look forward to that blows console games away in the graphics department?

SAGE_OF_FIRE

True. you'll never see brand new console games go for $5 like PC games do in stores and online. Unless they're used, in which case they're scratched and lacking that first-day DLC code.

Nope, PC gaming is dead.

DerpyMcDerp

You gave us the bad news Derpy Yesterday

When is the Funeral?

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

No matter the generation, the PC is always a great bet.

I'm probably going to be PC and one console next gen (if any console at all) instead of all three consoles and light PC gaming.

No doubt about it :P. PC is my main gaming system (not to say I don't game on the others a lot or as much) and my favorite by far, although personally I like having a PS3 and Wii for the exclusives I cannot get on PC.

Sure a PC is a good idea, but instead of pirating the games like alot of pc gamers, buy the ones you want and support the industry. I am also going only gaming pc and whatever nintendo system comes out lol. Also pc's that are out now are already better than the xbox 720/ ps4 anyways, so go ahead and invest in a sandy bridge pc and a decent video card.

Sure a PC is a good idea, but instead of pirating the games like alot of pc gamers, buy the ones you want and support the industry. I am also going only gaming pc and whatever nintendo system comes out lol. Also pc's that are out now are already better than the xbox 720/ ps4 anyways, so go ahead and invest in a sandy bridge pc and a decent video card.

blaznwiipspman1

Yeah, its tempting to pirate a game if you are in an environment that makes it so easy to do so, but in the end it feels less fun and rewarding and its just wrong.

Sure a PC is a good idea, but instead of pirating the games like alot of pc gamers, buy the ones you want and support the industry. I am also going only gaming pc and whatever nintendo system comes out lol. Also pc's that are out now are already better than the xbox 720/ ps4 anyways, so go ahead and invest in a sandy bridge pc and a decent video card.

blaznwiipspman1

For nextgen should I go pc? Wouldnt a good gaming pc now do better than what a next gen console from sony or microsoft would do?

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

For nextgen should I go pc? Wouldnt a good gaming pc now do better than what a next gen console from sony or microsoft would do?

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

For nextgen should I go pc? Wouldnt a good gaming pc now do better than what a next gen console from sony or microsoft would do?

lowe0

If you want to make sure you can run the majority of games released on next gen consoles it's best to wait 1-2 years after the release of the console to buy your PC hardware. The PC you would buy now would not have the specs to run next gen consoles games... maybe some launch titles but anything after that is unlikely unless these next gen consoles come out this year. Sir_Graham

Well since theres a lack of any new console (save handhelds,) I doubt power is what every dev will be focusing on. The only one with a major leap will be Nintendo IMO but MS will focus with Kinect while Sony just goes with the flow and becomes the "middleman" so to speak, perhaps even going back to being the hardcore/bro gaming console of choice. A PC from 2006 can still do 720p med-high just fine but higher resolutions they start to choke with graphic-intensive games.

You know, I'm going to quote myself from another thread. Food for thought for would-be PC gamers.




PC gamers almost never mention that PC gaming, and heck, PC use in general, oftentime comes with a great deal of hassle involved.

Take the recent launch of Civ V, for example. Civilization, one of the true flagship titles for the PC, in its fifth iteration. Well, I was certainly stoked, and am now enjoying the game - months later. But of course, as isn't uncommon for PC exclusive launches, the game was released *horribly* buggy. For me, personally, the game could scarcely run for 10 turns without crapping out on me and forcing me to restart and reload. The first major patched fixed *most* of the very common problems for most hardware configurations, but the Civfanatics tech support forum is still littered with similar issues to mine, and some people who can't get the game started at all on hardware that should have no trouble with it. And keep in mind, this isn't some little mom-and-pop developer of whothehellcares the series - this is a flagship PC exclusive series that is about 20 years old.

But, the hassle isn't just confined to buggy software. Oh no. I just recently picked up an ASUS G73 laptop and, let me tell you, it's pretty sweet. It runs Crysis on max settings with ease, blows Civ V out of the water (NOW at least). Sounds wonderful, eh? One might think so, but... I bought a Lexmark S605 printer over the holidays, installed it, and registered it for the extended warranty. It now asks me to register it every six hours despite having already done so. Also, a recent problem I'm still googling around for and am going to call ASUS over soon... Upon restarting - every single time - the computer chugs. Or, at least, parts of it do. It gets to the desktop, the overlay, mouse, and icons seem perfectly responsive, but for roughly 10 to 15 minutes after reaching the desktop, I can't actually start any programs. I'll double click on Google Chrome/Windows Media Player/Whatever, and it says it's working and... Nothing. The desktop APPEARS perfectly responsive, but nothing whatsoever will launch... For 10 to 15 minutes, I can basically do nothing. If I do pull a manual restart during the period, or manage to wrestle through it to SOMEHOW get the restart prompt to come up, it'll just do the exact same thing upon the restart. I foresee 20 minutes on hold for the distinct pleasure of talking to some guy in India until he gives me to his manager in my near future! This isn't even mentioning my previous Qosmio laptop and the recent joys I'd been having with Nvidia's latest drivers and dealing with overscan when outputting to an HDTV, where I'd set it to compensate for overscan and it would immediately reset to some freakishly low resolution and Windows basic coulour scheme upon doing so... Just for giggles, as far as I could tell. Was fun messing around with that for hours only to roll back to outdated software that caused me graphic glitches with Civ V.

And that's not even mentioning pissing around with firewalls for the inevitable detection issues, keeping virus software up to date, checking and rolling back drivers.

I've been PC gaming for over 20 years now. I have NEVER had these types of problems with console gaming, and I have NEVER had a PC machine - laptop or desktop - that didn't have a host of hiccups in the ballpark of what I've described. PC gaming snobs around here will *never* mention it, or even go on and on about how those types of things are what make the hobby so wonderful because it's just so much fun to work around crap like that, but it's a fact that if you PC game, you'll likely get stuck dealing with a host of hassles you'll never even have bad dreams about with consoles. And don't get me wrong - I bought a new gaming laptop because I enjoy PC gaming and consider it worth the hassle - but the hassle is there, and it's a *huge* turnoff of the platform.

How could anyone say yes untill the next consoles are annoucned? I would wait untill we see what they got. But they will probalby look amazing and they will be far cheaper then a pc of equivlent power as console makers sell there hardware for a loss( except Nintendo)

You know, I'm going to quote myself from another thread. Food for thought for would-be PC gamers.
PC gamers almost never mention that PC gaming, and heck, PC use in general, oftentime comes with a great deal of hassle involved.

Boomshaffted

Funny, because it isn't a hassle. You act as if consoles are void of any problems themselves. They too, have drivers, updates, and stubborness that may or may not be user error. 90% of the time (Yes off the the top estimate,) it's the user's fault for f'ing something up. PC has only gotten simpler. Back in the day I'd admit it was a hassle as software was more unstable back then AND the amount of PC users were smaller but with regular upkeep such as an automatic virus scan and registery cleaning (You download program and just keep clicking yes) you'd have to be the cause behind it messing up.

PC gaming, and PC use in general, is how you make it. Thats the motto we use and we're sticking to it.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]

Funny, because it isn't a hassle. You act as if consoles are void of any problems themselves. They too, have drivers, updates, and stubborness that may or may not be user error. 90% of the time (Yes off the the top estimate,) it's the user's fault for f'ing something up. PC has only gotten simpler. Back in the day I'd admit it was a hassle as software was more unstable back then AND the amount of PC users were smaller but with regular upkeep such as an automatic virus scan and registery cleaning (You download program and just keep clicking yes) you'd have to be the cause behind it messing up.

PC gaming, and PC use in general, is how you make it. Thats the motto we use and we're sticking to it.

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]

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Fusiondonut

Just admit you're a $hitty PC noob :D. I started playing on PC when I was around 11 years old. Could troubleshoot anything and still can what my PC throws at me. You just aren't intelligent/selfsufficient enough. Ga back to your console lol

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="dc337"] No, next gen will have even fewer high-end exclusives.

dc337

You know, I'm going to quote myself from another thread. Food for thought for would-be PC gamers.




PC gamers almost never mention that PC gaming, and heck, PC use in general, oftentime comes with a great deal of hassle involved.

Take the recent launch of Civ V, for example. Civilization, one of the true flagship titles for the PC, in its fifth iteration. Well, I was certainly stoked, and am now enjoying the game - months later. But of course, as isn't uncommon for PC exclusive launches, the game was released *horribly* buggy. For me, personally, the game could scarcely run for 10 turns without crapping out on me and forcing me to restart and reload. The first major patched fixed *most* of the very common problems for most hardware configurations, but the Civfanatics tech support forum is still littered with similar issues to mine, and some people who can't get the game started at all on hardware that should have no trouble with it. And keep in mind, this isn't some little mom-and-pop developer of whothehellcares the series - this is a flagship PC exclusive series that is about 20 years old.

But, the hassle isn't just confined to buggy software. Oh no. I just recently picked up an ASUS G73 laptop and, let me tell you, it's pretty sweet. It runs Crysis on max settings with ease, blows Civ V out of the water (NOW at least). Sounds wonderful, eh? One might think so, but... I bought a Lexmark S605 printer over the holidays, installed it, and registered it for the extended warranty. It now asks me to register it every six hours despite having already done so. Also, a recent problem I'm still googling around for and am going to call ASUS over soon... Upon restarting - every single time - the computer chugs. Or, at least, parts of it do. It gets to the desktop, the overlay, mouse, and icons seem perfectly responsive, but for roughly 10 to 15 minutes after reaching the desktop, I can't actually start any programs. I'll double click on Google Chrome/Windows Media Player/Whatever, and it says it's working and... Nothing. The desktop APPEARS perfectly responsive, but nothing whatsoever will launch... For 10 to 15 minutes, I can basically do nothing. If I do pull a manual restart during the period, or manage to wrestle through it to SOMEHOW get the restart prompt to come up, it'll just do the exact same thing upon the restart. I foresee 20 minutes on hold for the distinct pleasure of talking to some guy in India until he gives me to his manager in my near future! This isn't even mentioning my previous Qosmio laptop and the recent joys I'd been having with Nvidia's latest drivers and dealing with overscan when outputting to an HDTV, where I'd set it to compensate for overscan and it would immediately reset to some freakishly low resolution and Windows basic coulour scheme upon doing so... Just for giggles, as far as I could tell. Was fun messing around with that for hours only to roll back to outdated software that caused me graphic glitches with Civ V.

And that's not even mentioning pissing around with firewalls for the inevitable detection issues, keeping virus software up to date, checking and rolling back drivers.

I've been PC gaming for over 20 years now. I have NEVER had these types of problems with console gaming, and I have NEVER had a PC machine - laptop or desktop - that didn't have a host of hiccups in the ballpark of what I've described. PC gaming snobs around here will *never* mention it, or even go on and on about how those types of things are what make the hobby so wonderful because it's just so much fun to work around crap like that, but it's a fact that if you PC game, you'll likely get stuck dealing with a host of hassles you'll never even have bad dreams about with consoles. And don't get me wrong - I bought a new gaming laptop because I enjoy PC gaming and consider it worth the hassle - but the hassle is there, and it's a *huge* turnoff of the platform.

Boomshaffted

You're attributing problems to PC gaming because you have problems with a printer? I didn't realize that printers were exclusive to PC gaming.

DragonfireXZ95

wait to see the next gen consoles before making your mind up. At this point we have no idea where things are going .

That might be the first time i've seen someone argue his printer is his major issue on Pc gaming.

I've personally not had any issue on several PC's outside hardware getting old (Harddrive died after 5 years). Thats just me though. Had one time when a game crashed after I had played for about 12 hrs but simplly started game again and went at it... Again, can a Pc be a hassle at the very beginning? A bit since you need to install drivers etc after OS install. After that it can be simple clean sailing.

That might be the first time i've seen someone argue his printer is his major issue on Pc gaming.jedikevin2

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]That might be the first time i've seen someone argue his printer is his major issue on Pc gaming.Boomshaffted

Lets put some perspective.. What if i've said i've gamed on the Pc for close to 10 eyars now and have not had any issue outside a random hardware death after several years of use? Could I then say it can simply be less a hassle outside the original install and installation of drivers as a console in that regard? I certainly can since for me it has been like that. To each his own but i'm not gonna sit here and say it will be a hassle of a person just as I will not say a console will not a be hassle. I've had friends on both sides of the fence have certain issues pop up and spend hrs trying to get things working right. Its all to each his own here though.

Your issue might not be his issue. My lack of issue might not be his. Consoles hassle might or might not have hassles etc. In the earlier days, I would ahve compleltely aggreed with you (ps2 era and below).. In this new age generation of consoles, I definitely cannot say it will be less hassle.

Actually next gen consoles will be far better in hardware than the very best you can get on PC today, since technology will be 3-4 years ahead and more advanced than what it is today That is a simple fact and no, a 1000$ PC will be ancient when next gen systems arrive, same for any PC todayCreator_Of_All

Typical head in the sand PC gamer. Blame everything but the hardware, and if there's a problem, it's always blame the user. I guess it was my installation of Google Chrome, Skype, MSN, Spysweeper, and Civ V on my brand spanking new computer that's causing the problems, or maybe the Windows Update did something. Yeah, I must have mindlessly clicked "yes" to a bunch of toolbars and bloatware. Of course the PC is blameless. And you know, in comparison, console gaming is smooth as silk next to PC gaming, simple because it is all out of the user's hands and its function is remarkably streamlined. It's pure intellectual dishonesty to insinuate otherwise, but, here we are. OP, read my post and take it to heart. That's PC gaming. Guys like the one I just responded to and this goober...

Boomshaffted

Typical consolite snob who can't understand the functions of a computer. I can do that too. If it really was the hardware's fault, it more than likely wouldn't be working at all.

Know what? All of this stemmed from buying a bad laptop. Guess what? I had a friend who received an ASUS laptop just like that with the Nvidia GPU, not the AMD one. He's kinda illiterate. Yet the only thing I've ever had to help him do was setup a LAN game for us. He's had no problems getting around on his own. Hes had the stuttering problem you've mentioned, but that was due to the massive amount of heat inside laptops. Did you ever think about taking the computer back for a new one? Did you also ever try reinstalling the software and skipping activation? Your HDTV problem? A handshaking issue that could happen with the 360/PS3 over HDMI also. This could be because of the TV, the HDMI cable, or the laptop.

My 360 is a PoS. Yet MS insists on repairing a 6 year old console instead of putting new parts into it. It ate my FIFA 11 and L4D2 disc. It constantly RRoDs (Mostly due to heat but I only send it in when I can't get into a game.) I've had more trouble with consoles that PC. I rarely game on the 360 anymore.

One last thing, "And that's not even mentioning pissing around with firewalls for the inevitable detection issues, keeping virus software up to date, checking and rolling back drivers." I don't know anyone who has firewall troubles. You use an application that needs to access the internet so the regular checkbox comes up and you hit allow. No issues. Keeping anti-virus up to date? This is where I question legitimacy of your problems. Who doesn't have their AVs set to auto updates? If you took it off thats your fault. They're on by default. Checking and rolling back drivers? Never had to roll back a driver ever. You aren't even required to update drivers if you don't wish to. If it ain't broke don't bother fixing it.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]That might be the first time i've seen someone argue his printer is his major issue on Pc gaming.jedikevin2

Lets put some perspective.. What if i've said i've gamed on the Pc for close to 10 eyars now and have not had any issue outside a random hardware death after several years of use? Could I then say it can simply be less a hassle outside the original install and installation of drivers as a console in that regard? I certainly can since for me it has been like that. To each his own but i'm not gonna sit here and say it will be a hassle of a person just as I will not say a console will not a be hassle. I've had friends on both sides of the fence have certain issues pop up and spend hrs trying to get things working right. Its all to each his own here though.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]

Typical head in the sand PC gamer. Blame everything but the hardware, and if there's a problem, it's always blame the user. I guess it was my installation of Google Chrome, Skype, MSN, Spysweeper, and Civ V on my brand spanking new computer that's causing the problems, or maybe the Windows Update did something. Yeah, I must have mindlessly clicked "yes" to a bunch of toolbars and bloatware. Of course the PC is blameless. And you know, in comparison, console gaming is smooth as silk next to PC gaming, simple because it is all out of the user's hands and its function is remarkably streamlined. It's pure intellectual dishonesty to insinuate otherwise, but, here we are. OP, read my post and take it to heart. That's PC gaming. Guys like the one I just responded to and this goober...

ChubbyGuy40

Typical consolite snob who can't understand the functions of a computer. I can do that too. If it really was the hardware's fault, it more than likely wouldn't be working at all.

Know what? All of this stemmed from buying a bad laptop. Guess what? I had a friend who received an ASUS laptop just like that with the Nvidia GPU, not the AMD one. He's kinda illiterate. Yet the only thing I've ever had to help him do was setup a LAN game for us. He's had no problems getting around on his own. Hes had the stuttering problem you've mentioned, but that was due to the massive amount of heat inside laptops. Did you ever think about taking the computer back for a new one? Did you also ever try reinstalling the software and skipping activation? Your HDTV problem? A handshaking issue that could happen with the 360/PS3 over HDMI also. This could be because of the TV, the HDMI cable, or the laptop.

My 360 is a PoS. Yet MS insists on repairing a 6 year old console instead of putting new parts into it. It ate my FIFA 11 and L4D2 disc. It constantly RRoDs (Mostly due to heat but I only send it in when I can't get into a game.) I've had more trouble with consoles that PC. I rarely game on the 360 anymore.

One last thing, "And that's not even mentioning pissing around with firewalls for the inevitable detection issues, keeping virus software up to date, checking and rolling back drivers." I don't know anyone who has firewall troubles. You use an application that needs to access the internet so the regular checkbox comes up and you hit allow. No issues. Keeping anti-virus up to date? This is where I question legitimacy of your problems. Who doesn't have their AVs set to auto updates? If you took it off thats your fault. They're on by default. Checking and rolling back drivers? Never had to roll back a driver ever. You aren't even required to update drivers if you don't wish to. If it ain't broke don't bother fixing it.

PC gaming is rife with hassle, but, I've had this argument with PC gamers a hundred times before. Not going to drag myself through it again.

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Are you people seriously skipping most of the post and just fixating on one of several issues listed, and ignoring the fact that I'm pointing out issues that arise with PC use? And yes, having that pop up while I'm playing a PC game and have it minimize in the middle of play is a PC gaming issue.Boomshaffted

Lets put some perspective.. What if i've said i've gamed on the Pc for close to 10 eyars now and have not had any issue outside a random hardware death after several years of use? Could I then say it can simply be less a hassle outside the original install and installation of drivers as a console in that regard? I certainly can since for me it has been like that. To each his own but i'm not gonna sit here and say it will be a hassle of a person just as I will not say a console will not a be hassle. I've had friends on both sides of the fence have certain issues pop up and spend hrs trying to get things working right. Its all to each his own here though.

You may spit out luck but i'll just spit out knowledge and understanding my hardware and software. To each his own. No idea what talking about a game you have before my account has anything to do with whats being discussed just as your stating you've been building pc's for 20 years.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]PC's don't have gens XD and $1000 will do just fine against next-gen consoles, which will become outdated anyways on launch day. Next-Gen consoles will most likely start using APU's meaning not a huge gap in performance compared to today's consoles. and there area A LOT OF PC Exclusives, I discover new ones everyday....the list is way too large to list >.>04dcarraher

According to Boomshaffted us PC users who have no issues are "lucky."

There's a lot of luck involved with your situation there. Not everyone is so lucky. And consolite snob? Please. I was likely PC gaming before someone thought to trust you with a slinky. OP, food for thought. Take it or leave it. Don't trust these guys any further than you can throw them. I happily game on PCs and consoles, but I'm realistic about all of them. PC fanboys are, like other fanboys here, still fanboys, and they will mislead and misrepresent to support their platform like any other fanboys in here.

PC gaming is rife with hassle, but, I've had this argument with PC gamers a hundred times before. Not going to drag myself through it again.

Boomshaffted

Theres a lot of luck involved with your situation. You say you're being realistic about it yet you're completely shoving your opinion about PC in our faces.

You're not gonna "get into another argument" simply because you can't back it up until the end. If you were realistic about it then you would've acknowledged the good times with PC instead of basic problems that an everyday PC user might have at the office.

OP should get a PC as well as all consoles. There isn't one single, logical reason you should stick with one platform.

According to Boomshaffted us PC users who have no issues are "lucky."

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Lets put some perspective.. What if i've said i've gamed on the Pc for close to 10 eyars now and have not had any issue outside a random hardware death after several years of use? Could I then say it can simply be less a hassle outside the original install and installation of drivers as a console in that regard? I certainly can since for me it has been like that. To each his own but i'm not gonna sit here and say it will be a hassle of a person just as I will not say a console will not a be hassle. I've had friends on both sides of the fence have certain issues pop up and spend hrs trying to get things working right. Its all to each his own here though.

jedikevin2

You may spit out luck but i'll just spit out knowledge and understanding my hardware and software. To each his own. No idea what talking about a game you have before my account has anything to do with whats being discussed just as your stating you've been building pc's for 20 years.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"]

There's a lot of luck involved with your situation there. Not everyone is so lucky. And consolite snob? Please. I was likely PC gaming before someone thought to trust you with a slinky. OP, food for thought. Take it or leave it. Don't trust these guys any further than you can throw them. I happily game on PCs and consoles, but I'm realistic about all of them. PC fanboys are, like other fanboys here, still fanboys, and they will mislead and misrepresent to support their platform like any other fanboys in here.

PC gaming is rife with hassle, but, I've had this argument with PC gamers a hundred times before. Not going to drag myself through it again.

ChubbyGuy40

Theres a lot of luck involved with your situation. You say you're being realistic about it yet you're completely shoving your opinion about PC in our faces.

You're not gonna "get into another argument" simply because you can't back it up until the end. If you were realistic about it then you would've acknowledged the good times with PC instead of basic problems that an everyday PC user might have at the office.

OP should get a PC as well as all consoles. There isn't one single, logical reason you should stick with one platform.

Money?

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] I'd say you were *damned* lucky. In perspective, that game I have listed in my sig came out before you (on your account) started PC gaming. When I started PC gaming - which I'm still doing to this day - I was playing games like Eye of the Beholder 1 and Darklands and things like that. Most of my friends PC game too. In over 20 years PC gaming experience, I haven't had one machine that was even close to as hitchless as the consoles I've owned, nor can I think of a single PC gaming friend playing games with me from games like The Fates of Twinion to Civilization V who can't claim a good number of the types of PC hassle you're claiming doesn't happen. I'd guess you're either incredibly lucky or just another fanboy lying to justify his gaming choices to others and to himself, but I can't really know. What I've listed in my first post here is the reality of PC use for a *lot* of people, and this can only get in the way of gaming. Don't even get me started on things like dealing with buggy software that doesn't work on some hardware (check the Civfanatics Civ IV technical forum - I've never had to wrestle with a console game even the tiniest fraction as hard as I had to wrestle with that beast to be able to game with it) or just outright doesn't work. But hey, I'm sure the guys who immediately responded are right. I've only been doing this for 20 years - I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to run my PC properly. It's not like I've built my own PC from scratch several times over the past two decades, it's not like I have literally two decades of experience telling me not to mindlessly hit "yes," to avoid bloatware, to make sure firewalls aren't blocking this and that... Nope, I'm just an idiot telling you all my fevered fantasies about PC gaming which are, obviously, not true. Silly old me... Oh well, back to Civ V with me.ocstew

You may spit out luck but i'll just spit out knowledge and understanding my hardware and software. To each his own. No idea what talking about a game you have before my account has anything to do with whats being discussed just as your stating you've been building pc's for 20 years.

I've only had fallout 3 which played without issue but I cannot say anything on GTA4. The only games i've had issues with is Last Remnant on 360 and several xbla games crashing etc. On Pc, its not been a issue. Only thing that ever popped up was the nvidia 197.45 or so drivers which would not use fans correctly. For me though, I had been using rivatuner for some time so that never affected me. I did have some issue getting Dominus running on Dosbox on XP (VERy VERY OLD PC game). I could understand some people having trouble playing OLD games on new OS though.. something like C&C tiberian Sun run on windows 7 would be all sorts of issue due to the color bitrate but for me I duel boot to a nlited XP for any of my really old games and never had a issue on that matter. Thats just me though.

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]If you want to spend more money for less game variety and slightly better graphics, then sure.topgunmv

Care to name a genre on consoles you can't get on pc?

Money?

hypoty

I knew that answer was gonna come up but I decided to keep it the way it was. I meant as if money wasn't a big issue, mostly as to the games each system has. I see no reason to be loyal to just one platform especially when all of them are great in their own right.

I'm actually considering getting into PC gaming next gen. Perfect complimentary for my PS3 (or PS4).

I wouldn't. A PC is a multi-functional machine. It does everything, but it doesn't do a single thing good (except FPS). If your looking for a memorable gaming experience, consoles will be your choice. Mr_Cumberdale

The absurdity of your claim is mind-blowing. How do you decide what a machine isn't good at? It has the most high rated exclusives this generation, if that isn't good then I'd like to know what can achieve your high standards for what is 'good'. Sony marketed the PS3 as a media center, an entertainment hub, does that hinder it's ability to have good games?