For some reason, haters of the Wii have a stupid reason for it failing:

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#1 peter1191
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"The gamecube sold millions early on and failed." This is not a valid arguement at all! The Wii appeals to the non-gamer, the hardcore, and even the gore-lovers (see manhunt 2 for details). It is by far not the gamecube. Also, the arguement that the graphics will force its failure is a stupid arguement. The market likes all type of games, and good, nay great graphics can be achieved by the Wii, more than twice as detailed as the PS2 (see God of War 2). Plus, as games like Wii Sports proved, graphics are not a prerequisite for a fun game. On the contrary, fun gameplay is a prerequisite for a fun, good game. Learn that PS3 and Xbox fans. On a side note, I believe all the new gen consoles are awesome, but I bear negativity towards the  PS3 for its price point, and lack of good games (for now).
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"The gamecube sold millions early on and failed." This is not a valid arguement at all! The Wii appeals to the non-gamer, the hardcore, and even the gore-lovers (see manhunt 2 for details). It is by far not the gamecube. Also, the arguement that the graphics will force its failure is a stupid arguement. The market likes all type of games, and good, nay great graphics can be achieved by the Wii, more than twice as detailed as the PS2 (see God of War 2). Plus, as games like Wii Sports proved, graphics are not a prerequisite for a fun game. On the contrary, fun gameplay is a prerequisite for a fun, good game. Learn that PS3 and Xbox fans. On a side note, I believe all the new gen consoles are awesome, but I bear negativity towards the PS3 for its price point, and lack of good games (for now).peter1191


Also The Godfather Blackhand edition for gore.
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#3 coolguy1111
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How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.
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#4 SyluxElite
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How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.coolguy1111
Like the Ds? :roll: This gimmick excuse is getting old. I can just as easliy say the PS3's Blue Ray player is a gimmick to sell systems. Am I right? who cares? I by systems for fun games. :)
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#6 htekemerald
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The reason I didlike the wii is because it has crap for games, TP being the only game that will last me for more then 5 hours.  Plus it adds nothing new to games. imo
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The reason I didlike the wii is because it has crap for games, TP being the only game that will last me for more then 5 hours.  Plus it adds nothing new to games.htekemerald
Nothing new? Wow, can't beat that logic. :) He must be right. :P
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#8 peter1191
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The PS3 has a ton of features and a slick design. People have already gotton over it. THey are simply waiting of the price to drop. The Wii is fun. Fun is long lost to hardcore gamers. They know only well designed, graphically powerful, games. The Wii will attracted hardcore gamers as third party support grows (the companies were caught off guard by its success, and are just now announcing games). First party games, like metroid, though these series have been long running, are remaded with every new console.Plus, no matter how you slice it, the Wii is a success story of INNOVATION. Gimmicks are the PS3's blue-ray, and totally new that no one is ready for, Gimmicky is the PSP's internet browsing and ability to play music. I do not mean to be anti-Sony, I love the games on the PS2, but never brought it for its ability to play dvds.
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How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.coolguy1111
it would seem that way... it all depends on what devs do with it. if it continues how it is as of right now i can see the wii dead in a couple of years.
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#10 coolguy1111
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.SyluxElite
Like the Ds? :roll: This gimmick excuse is getting old. I can just as easliy say the PS3's Blue Ray player is a gimmick to sell systems. Am I right? who cares? I by systems for fun games. :)

Because the gimmick doesnt add anything. Also, how is blu-ray a gimmick? You cant reasonable explain to me why it is. Tell me how many games truely use the DS touch pad right? Theres many more fun games on the 360, pc, and even ps3 then the wii.
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How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.coolguy1111

Hardcore gamers care about the games.  Wii brings something new, I don't see why any hardcore gamer would not be interested in the Wii.
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]The reason I didlike the wii is because it has crap for games, TP being the only game that will last me for more then 5 hours. Plus it adds nothing new to games.SyluxElite
Nothing new? Wow, can't beat that logic. :) He must be right. :P

Waving your arms instead of pressing a button doesnt change gameplay. You moving your arm up STILL makes zelda swing his sword.
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#13 coolguy1111
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.solidsnakeEx3

Hardcore gamers care about the games. Wii brings something new, I don't see why any hardcore gamer would not be interested in the Wii.

The wii will bring new stuff for party games and games like WarioWare. Most hardcore gamers arnt playing 4 hours a day of warioware.
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#14 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="SyluxElite"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.coolguy1111
Like the Ds? :roll: This gimmick excuse is getting old. I can just as easliy say the PS3's Blue Ray player is a gimmick to sell systems. Am I right? who cares? I by systems for fun games. :)

Because the gimmick doesnt add anything. Also, how is blu-ray a gimmick? You cant reasonable explain to me why it is. Tell me how many games truely use the DS touch pad right? Theres many more fun games on the 360, pc, and even ps3 then the wii.



360 and PC yes. PS3 better games then Wii right now? :lol:
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#15 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.solidsnakeEx3

Hardcore gamers care about the games. Wii brings something new, I don't see why any hardcore gamer would not be interested in the Wii.



Exactly. If you like games and you claim that you are some serious gamer then you would give the Wii a chance instead of making these mindless assumptions of doomsday predictions for it.
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#16 peter1191
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Why? Why do people not understand that it IS A NEW WAY OF PLAYING? That is what makes it fun. You may not like it, but bashing it on such trivial grounds is foolish. It may not change what happens on screen in some games, but the new way of play is plain ans simple fun.
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How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.coolguy1111
Fanboys said exactly the same thing about the DS. Just for clarification: When, exactly, in 2007 is the Wii supposed to stop selling? We're in mid-February, and people are still lining up for Wii shipments.
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#18 solidsnakeEx3
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[QUOTE="solidsnakeEx3"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.coolguy1111

Hardcore gamers care about the games. Wii brings something new, I don't see why any hardcore gamer would not be interested in the Wii.

The wii will bring new stuff for party games and games like WarioWare. Most hardcore gamers arnt playing 4 hours a day of warioware.


There are plenty of non-minigame games for the Wii :|
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#19 palaric8
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sorry but God of War looks much better than most wii games except TP
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#20 black_chewbacca
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I hate it because of the horrific graphics, horrible 3rd party support, lack of GOOD shooting game- hell, I'd be satisfied with a fair shooter but all they have is ****. I also hate it because the motion sensing isnt as accurate as a controller for me.
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#21 chipface-z
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As a hardcore gamer, what attracted me to the Wii is the new way of playing. IMO the Wii is the biggest thing to happen to gaming since the NES. If I want graphics, PC and the 360 will take care of that.
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#22 air0123
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The wii is fun, but for only a week. The graphics and gameplay annoy me. Such crappy graphics, and the gameplay is way to easy.
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#23 loco145
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The wii is fun, but for only a week. The graphics and gameplay annoy me. Such crappy graphics, and the gameplay is way to easy.air0123
You haven't playes SMB:BB and trauma Center.
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#24 loco145
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I hate it because of the horrific graphics, horrible 3rd party support, lack of GOOD shooting game- hell, I'd be satisfied with a fair shooter but all they have is ****. I also hate it because the motion sensing isnt as accurate as a controller for me.black_chewbacca
CoD3 got was A, thats good according to GS.
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#25 air0123
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[QUOTE="air0123"]The wii is fun, but for only a week. The graphics and gameplay annoy me. Such crappy graphics, and the gameplay is way to easy.loco145
You haven't playes SMB:BB and trauma Center.

No i haven't, I am just commenting on the games I have played.
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"The gamecube sold millions early on and failed." This is not a valid arguement at all! The Wii appeals to the non-gamer, the hardcore, and even the gore-lovers (see manhunt 2 for details). It is by far not the gamecube. Also, the arguement that the graphics will force its failure is a stupid arguement. The market likes all type of games, and good, nay great graphics can be achieved by the Wii, more than twice as detailed as the PS2 (see God of War 2). Plus, as games like Wii Sports proved, graphics are not a prerequisite for a fun game. On the contrary, fun gameplay is a prerequisite for a fun, good game. Learn that PS3 and Xbox fans. On a side note, I believe all the new gen consoles are awesome, but I bear negativity towards the PS3 for its price point, and lack of good games (for now).peter1191
I agree, but dont worry, all those haters will hide once nintendo wins this gen :)
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#27 black_chewbacca
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[QUOTE="black_chewbacca"]I hate it because of the horrific graphics, horrible 3rd party support, lack of GOOD shooting game- hell, I'd be satisfied with a fair shooter but all they have is ****. I also hate it because the motion sensing isnt as accurate as a controller for me.loco145
CoD3 got was A, thats good according to GS.



Thats one game. Out of 2006 and 2007.
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#28 OhSnapitz
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I personally don't "hate" the wii but I don't see it being worth $250 right now... If it was maybe $150-170 I'd consider it.. MAYBE!!! But the only game I want to play on it is Zelda and I see maybe 4 games coming out this year that's actually worth getting. No thank you..
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[QUOTE="SyluxElite"][QUOTE="htekemerald"]The reason I didlike the wii is because it has crap for games, TP being the only game that will last me for more then 5 hours. Plus it adds nothing new to games.coolguy1111
Nothing new? Wow, can't beat that logic. :) He must be right. :P

Waving your arms instead of pressing a button doesnt change gameplay. You moving your arm up STILL makes zelda swing his sword.

:| what kind of logic is that? So by your logic, having insanely good graphics does not help a game because it STILL renders 3D models. How can you there is no difference in gameplay between pressing a button and waving arms. :?
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="SyluxElite"][QUOTE="htekemerald"]The reason I didlike the wii is because it has crap for games, TP being the only game that will last me for more then 5 hours. Plus it adds nothing new to games.Kaze_no_Mirai
Nothing new? Wow, can't beat that logic. :) He must be right. :P

Waving your arms instead of pressing a button doesnt change gameplay. You moving your arm up STILL makes zelda swing his sword.

:| what kind of logic is that? So by your logic, having insanely good graphics does not help a game because it STILL renders 3D models. How can you there is no difference in gameplay between pressing a button and waving arms. :?

I don't see any xbox360/Ps3 that wouldn't have worked on the last gen consoles with downgraded visual... perhaps Dead Rising because the amount of enemies on screen. But Wii-sports, Trauma Center, Wario Ware, Rayman would have been totally broken and/or irrelevant while Madden, Zelda and Elebits improved.
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[QUOTE="solidsnakeEx3"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"]How will it appeal to hardcore gamer? Right now its the fade, its got a cool gimick, ppl will get over it.coolguy1111

Hardcore gamers care about the games. Wii brings something new, I don't see why any hardcore gamer would not be interested in the Wii.

The wii will bring new stuff for party games and games like WarioWare. Most hardcore gamers arnt playing 4 hours a day of warioware.

So? Hard Core are gonna play Brawl. They;re gonna play Dragon Quest, Mario Galaxys, etc. and to think that the wii isn't gonna get some kickarse 3rd party is naive. If the Wii continues to sell this well, it's inevitable, and heck, there could be 3rd party we havent heard bout in development right now.
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#32 HappySunnGuy
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The reason I didlike the wii is because it has crap for games, TP being the only game that will last me for more then 5 hours. Plus it adds nothing new to games. imohtekemerald


wha?

thats like saying halo is innovative, or the psp is beating the ds. its just wrong, and it proves that you have flawgic(flawed logic). although with what you said, you probably do beleive the things i said are true.
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#33 haziqonfire
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most fanboy claim the wii is a gimmick, or it wont last 2 years, or it doesnt appeal to hardcore gamers, yet, they dont back it up.

Listen here fanboys, The wii is not a gimmick, if it was why would it be selling well, TO THIS DAY still. if it was a gimmick, it would have died down FAST, which it hasnt. It wont last 2 years? it will last as long as the other 2 consoles will, and It wont appleal to hardcores? Look at the forums, most of us are hardcore gamers, and many of us own Wii, so i dont really know what you are talking about
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[QUOTE="SyluxElite"][QUOTE="htekemerald"]The reason I didlike the wii is because it has crap for games, TP being the only game that will last me for more then 5 hours. Plus it adds nothing new to games.coolguy1111
Nothing new? Wow, can't beat that logic. :) He must be right. :P

Waving your arms instead of pressing a button doesnt change gameplay. You moving your arm up STILL makes zelda swing his sword.

You mean Link, you obviously don't own a Wii if you made such a stupid mistake like that.