For those of you that live in the US, will you be buying an Xbox One?

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[QUOTE="donalbane"]Yeah I've pre-ordered. I like the ability to play all the exclusives, and I don't see that changing because of used game limitations or always-online restrictions - neither of which effect me. WitIsWisdom

Thanks for being honest man. I truly wonder how many people out there are just following the crowd?

Probably 95% of them. You know they are all going to buy Xbox One. Plus everybody will like the interface much better on Xbox One and also the exclusives like Halo, Killer Instinct, and Gears. 

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Why would you want x1? Can't live without Halo or Gears? That's pretty pathetic if you are so stuck on the few exclusives that you wont buy a clearly cheaper & better PS4. 

clr84651

Until you try the PS4 it is stupid to determine if it is better than the xbox one.

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#53 WitIsWisdom
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I will be buying a Xbox One. Ive never bought a Playstation video game console and never plan to. Xbox One seems to be doing better in multiplats than Xbox 360 ever did.

I want to buy Killer Instinct and Kingdom Hearts 3.

slipknot0129

Killer Instinct does look good :) I hope you enjoy it. I was a little upset about it not having a physical form, but I would get it none the less.

It was great news to hear that you can purchase ALL the charactes and full game as a complete digital download though... that rumor/mess going around before made me a little sick.

My first impressions of the game I have waited nearly 20 years for was meh... however, I watched the live demo, and it looks pretty solid. Nothing beats KI combos and fluidity. It looks likethey did put a lot of effort into capturing that feel even if not perfect. The art style is not really to my liking, however, it leaves the door open for more sequels now :) That game was a big win for people who are purchasing the X1.

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#54 Amvis
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Hell no. The Xbone is a disaster for collectors. Games won't be playable 10-20 years from now unless M$ decides to keep the servers running. Hint: they won't.YoshiYogurt

I highly doubt that. MS quit supporting the Zune years ago, which is DRM based. Mine still works like a charm. Yes, I am one of those unfortunate people who bought a Zune. If it ever gets to the point where keeping the servers up is too costly, they will probably just do a software update and remove the requirement for DRM.

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#55 clr84651
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Where I live most the consumers that have been going into Game Stop are pre ordering PS4s. 

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#56 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Impressions from gaf users and on this forum.

super600

You must be drinking the M$ kool aid, because the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4

I read some impressions about what they were saying about the first hour or so about the conference and it was not pretty.

Yes, ignore the 2nd half of the conference :roll:. The general consenus is that Sony dominated E3, but obviously you'll find some excuse to defend microsoft since you're one of their biggest apologists ;)

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#57 nyzma23
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Sure why not it'll fit in my home theatre room

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#58 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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Nope. Never will. 360 and original XBOX were my favs the last 2 gens, now I've officially given up on them.

Sticking with PS4 all the way.

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#59 clr84651
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[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Why would you want x1? Can't live without Halo or Gears? That's pretty pathetic if you are so stuck on the few exclusives that you wont buy a clearly cheaper & better PS4. 

super600

Until you try the PS4 it is stupid to determine if it is better than the xbox one.

MS makes xbox. That's all that I need to say. They're a bunch of idiot losers. 

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#60 xOMGITSJASONx
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No I will not. I have a better Xbox console right now, it's called the Xbox 360. 

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#61 dogfather76
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Why would you want x1? Can't live without Halo or Gears? That's pretty pathetic if you are so stuck on the few exclusives that you wont buy a clearly cheaper & better PS4.

clr84651

I'm getting a PS4, but fail to see how Gears/Halo is any more pathetic than Sony's Infamous or Killzone series. Both of those series have been mediocre at best.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]You must be drinking the M$ kool aid, because the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4

heeweesRus

I read some impressions about what they were saying about the first hour or so about the conference and it was not pretty.

Yes, ignore the 2nd half of the conference :roll:. The general consenus is that Sony dominated E3, but obviously you'll find some excuse to defend microsoft since you're one of their biggest apologists ;)

If I was really defending MS I would buy their console the instant it released. And the whole conference has to be good not just the last 20 minutes or last hour or etc to be good. MS succeed in that department in their E3 conference even with their PR blunders and the issues with the xbox one.I'm not following the PS4 train until I see for myself how good that conference was.

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#63 NexApex
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[QUOTE="NexApex"]

I'll be honest and say I want one just for it's exclusive content that I won't be able to play on Sony's platform. The always online doesn't effect, but I'm a retro gamer/collector who enjoys gaming from previous generations - what happens when the Xbox One servers shut down and the only why to buy older games are used? or even new? Will they still work in the distant future?

Why so many RULES! "Friends for more then 30 days, 10 people in your household, needs to scan your game once every 24 hours, needs to be re-coded to sell or give to someone, needs Kinect, always watching and will advertise the shit your eating and drinking or wearing...etc" :?

WitIsWisdom

It sounds like we are in the same situation.

I have been a gamer and game collector for years.

My decision is because of Microsoft's horrible policies. It will sting as a gamer not to get to play someof the bigger exclusives... :(

I just feel that by supporting it would go against everything I love aboutmy favorite industry as a whole...

The day they come to their senses... You can damn well bet I will forgive and forget though :)

What really gets me is how they have the nerve to implement something so stupid as a daily system scan to play games... What were they thinking is beyond me.

You essentially have a BRICK which will NOT play any games UNTIL connected.

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[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

[QUOTE="NexApex"]

I'll be honest and say I want one just for it's exclusive content that I won't be able to play on Sony's platform. The always online doesn't effect, but I'm a retro gamer/collector who enjoys gaming from previous generations - what happens when the Xbox One servers shut down and the only why to buy older games are used? or even new? Will they still work in the distant future?

Why so many RULES! "Friends for more then 30 days, 10 people in your household, needs to scan your game once every 24 hours, needs to be re-coded to sell or give to someone, needs Kinect, always watching and will advertise the shit your eating and drinking or wearing...etc" :?

NexApex

It sounds like we are in the same situation.

I have been a gamer and game collector for years.

My decision is because of Microsoft's horrible policies. It will sting as a gamer not to get to play someof the bigger exclusives... :(

I just feel that by supporting it would go against everything I love aboutmy favorite industry as a whole...

The day they come to their senses... You can damn well bet I will forgive and forget though :)

What really gets me is how they have the nerve to implement something so stupid as a daily system scan to play games... What were they thinking is beyond me.

You essentially have a BRICK which will NOT play any games UNTIL connected.

The worst part about that is the 1hr check in for playing games on someone else's console with no internet connection.

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#65 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I read some impressions about what they were saying about the first hour or so about the conference and it was not pretty.

super600

Yes, ignore the 2nd half of the conference :roll:. The general consenus is that Sony dominated E3, but obviously you'll find some excuse to defend microsoft since you're one of their biggest apologists ;)

If I was really defending MS I would buy their console the instant it released. And the whole conference has to be good not just the last 20 minutes or last hour or etc to be good. MS succeed in that department in their E3 conference even with their PR blunders and the issues with the xbox one.I'm not following the PS4 train until I see for myself how good that conference was.

Sony did have the best conference, any internet poll will tell you that.

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I see no reason at all to support that restrictive console.
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#67 NexApex
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[QUOTE="NexApex"]

[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

It sounds like we are in the same situation.

I have been a gamer and game collector for years.

My decision is because of Microsoft's horrible policies. It will sting as a gamer not to get to play someof the bigger exclusives... :(

I just feel that by supporting it would go against everything I love aboutmy favorite industry as a whole...

The day they come to their senses... You can damn well bet I will forgive and forget though :)

super600

What really gets me is how they have the nerve to implement something so stupid as a daily system scan to play games... What were they thinking is beyond me.

You essentially have a BRICK which will NOT play any games UNTIL connected.

The worst part about that is the 1hr check in for playing games on someone else's console with no internet connection.

So, you can go over to a friends house and play the game YOU purchased and it'll work as long as it can scan every hour? Do you have to be logged in to your user name or does can he? I don't even know why were discussing this... if your buddy doesn't even have internet ya'll can't even play it split screen.

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#68 KBFloYd
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depends...once the systems are out...ill make a decision.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Yes, ignore the 2nd half of the conference :roll:. The general consenus is that Sony dominated E3, but obviously you'll find some excuse to defend microsoft since you're one of their biggest apologists ;)

heeweesRus

If I was really defending MS I would buy their console the instant it released. And the whole conference has to be good not just the last 20 minutes or last hour or etc to be good. MS succeed in that department in their E3 conference even with their PR blunders and the issues with the xbox one.I'm not following the PS4 train until I see for myself how good that conference was.

Sony did have the best conference, any internet poll will tell you that.

Like I said I won't follow the PS4 hype train until I see the conference for myself.

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#70 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="NexApex"]

What really gets me is how they have the nerve to implement something so stupid as a daily system scan to play games... What were they thinking is beyond me.

You essentially have a BRICK which will NOT play any games UNTIL connected.

NexApex

The worst part about that is the 1hr check in for playing games on someone else's console with no internet connection.

So, you can go over to a friends house and play the game YOU purchased and it'll work as long as it can scan every hour? Do you have to be logged in to your user name or does can he? I don't even know why were discussing this... if your buddy doesn't even have internet ya'll can't even play it split screen.

It doesn't affect me that much anyway, but it is an issue that may affect some people.

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#71 TecmoGirl
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y3PAXBi.gifNo!.......maybe:(......I dunno. It's hard to ignore a few of those exclusives.

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Preordered it the second it was available on Amazon.

My only issue with XB1 is that it is $100 more than PS4.

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#73 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]Yeah I've pre-ordered. I like the ability to play all the exclusives, and I don't see that changing because of used game limitations or always-online restrictions - neither of which effect me. WitIsWisdom

Thanks for being honest man. I truly wonder how many people out there are just following the crowd?

People are getting so swept up in dog-piling Microsoft they completely ignored the fact that Sony is adopting Microsoft's much hated pay-for-multiplayer system. Where is the outcry for that? That effects me more than anything Microsoft has announced. I mean, I'm going to pay for it because Killzone's multiplayer is one of my favorites, but it really sucks.
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#74 StormyJoe
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]No it wasn't :? Where the hell do you here these things?

heeweesRus

Impressions from gaf users and on this forum.

You must be drinking the M$ kool aid, because the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4

No... up until the "No DRM and $399 price", most game journalists were saying Sony's E3 conference was a big bust.

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I'm not bother by the $500 as Me and my wife makes really good money! Also I'm using Fios 75 down Internet service so Connection is not a problem I'm not bother by all the TV stuff. What I don't like about XB1 is how it "force" me into internet check daily and not able to lend games out to my friends. There were times that I don't play games for a week! What will happened than?? my machine will lock up?? It bothers me alot that I pay for a product from a company that have so many restrictions and mean while other companies (Sony and Nintendo)  don't! I have the first 2 Xboxs and I think they were decent, but this time around, I will not buy one! MS need a lesson like Sony with PS3 to be humble again!

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#76 NexApex
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[QUOTE="NexApex"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

The worst part about that is the 1hr check in for playing games on someone else's console with no internet connection.

super600

So, you can go over to a friends house and play the game YOU purchased and it'll work as long as it can scan every hour? Do you have to be logged in to your user name or does can he? I don't even know why were discussing this... if your buddy doesn't even have internet ya'll can't even play it split screen.

It doesn't affect me that much anyway, but it is an issue that may affect some people.

Yeah, understand. I was just talking in general.

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#77 ermacness
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I will be buying a Xbox One. Ive never bought a Playstation video game console and never plan to. Xbox One seems to be doing better in multiplats than Xbox 360 ever did.

I want to buy Killer Instinct and Kingdom Hearts 3.

slipknot0129

Ummm, who told you this?:|

Going by most comparisons, the ps4 was shown to be more powerful (although not by much), possibily faster, and taken from what most dev said about the ps4, this time around, the ps4 is very dev friendly, unlike the ps3. Please don't bring the results of this gen into the next. It seems like Sony have learned their lesson, and is making a complete 180 this time.

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[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Yeah I've pre-ordered. I like the ability to play all the exclusives, and I don't see that changing because of used game limitations or always-online restrictions - neither of which effect me. slipknot0129

Thanks for being honest man. I truly wonder how many people out there are just following the crowd?

Probably 95% of them. You know they are all going to buy Xbox One. Plus everybody will like the interface much better on Xbox One and also the exclusives like Halo, Killer Instinct, and Gears. 

NO lol. The interface is garbage. There should be one interface for me to acces my friends and settings, otherwise I don't give a flying **** just start up the game. OH BOY! Halo and gears rehashes! Just what I always wanted. Games I can't play 10 years from now! Wow. Better spend half a grand on it. The console is a joke.
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Impressions from gaf users and on this forum.

StormyJoe

You must be drinking the M$ kool aid, because the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4

No... up until the "No DRM and $399 price", most game journalists were saying Sony's E3 conference was a big bust.

So? What matters is the ENTIRE comference, which Sony easily had the best.
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]You must be drinking the M$ kool aid, because the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4

heeweesRus

No... up until the "No DRM and $399 price", most game journalists were saying Sony's E3 conference was a big bust.

So? What matters is the ENTIRE comference, which Sony easily had the best.

Honestly, the first portion of Sony's conference was quite underwhelming. They spend a lot of time on corporate speak, and there were no real killer apps revealed for the PS4. All they needed to do was announce Demon's souls 2 for me to get the PS4 day one, instead it was a goddamn F2P card game on Vita :lol: Now the only game I'm interested in is Infamous. MGSV is on PC, so is Destiny. So I'm just sticking with my PS3+PC for the next year or two until a killing app comes out for the PS4.
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dont think so....but maybe way, way later in the future. i think i wanna go with ps4/pc combo this gen

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I will stick with & Sony/Nintendo!

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#84 ermacness
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I will not be getting the X1 on launch because I'll only have enough for only 1 next gen console, and that console will be the ps4. Now, I'm not saying that I will never get 1 because that's a lie. I plan on getting 1 next year around income tax time. However, the only reason why I wont be getting one this year, is because I like more of Sony exclusives than MS exclusives, and while they did, in fact, brought it with the exclusive games at E3, I know that most of those games won't be out in 2013, let alone making the X1 launch. Also, thanks to MS and their used games, 24 hr online check. DRM, and Kinect required announcements, that have brought alot of my old friends who went with the 360 this gen, to go with the ps4 for next gen. While all of the X1 requirements are bad, most of them don't effect me, and MS does have some really cool exclusives that I wouldn't mind playing. So, if God see it fit for me to get the X1, I'll be getting it for sure, just not this year, unless a miracle happens to where I have alot more money than I'm planning to have this year.:P

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I'm not bother by the $500 as Me and my wife makes really good money! Also I'm using Fios 75 down Internet service so Connection is not a problem I'm not bother by all the TV stuff. What I don't like about XB1 is how it "force" me into internet check daily and not able to lend games out to my friends. There were times that I don't play games for a week! What will happened than?? my machine will lock up?? It bothers me alot that I pay for a product from a company that have so many restrictions and mean while other companies (Sony and Nintendo) don't! I have the first 2 Xboxs and I think they were decent, but this time around, I will not buy one! MS need a lesson like Sony with PS3 to be humble again!

ni6htmare01

I wish I had a 75 down service. They don't offer anything close to that where I live. However, I can relate and agree to much of the other material you talked about.

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I don't know yet.  I have a feeling all these "bad" policies are actually going to make the X1 the most advanced and streamlined console available, once it comes out.

 

We'll see though.

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Nope. Never.

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#88 WitIsWisdom
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dont think so....but maybe way, way later in the future. i think i wanna go with ps4/pc combo this gen

jsmoke03

What's up jsmoke03 hows it been man?

I agree, but I will eventually add the WiiU to that list... I am still a sucker for some good ol' platformers... rehashed or not. lol

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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]You must be drinking the M$ kool aid, because the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4

heeweesRus

No... up until the "No DRM and $399 price", most game journalists were saying Sony's E3 conference was a big bust.

So? What matters is the ENTIRE comference, which Sony easily had the best.

Yeah, but your statement of "the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4" isn't really accurate - they were impressed with the price and lack of DRM, not the rest of the conference.

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[QUOTE="Don-Mattrick"][QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

I wasn't so sure about that..

That is why I made it. I know the way I feel about it, but I was unclear whether the ones on here saying they supported it were from the US or not.

I thought maybe it was a country related oyalty kind of thing... so far, that does't seem to be the case, however, there i no way for me to filter out other votes coming from outside the US either... heh

I mean, Microsoft even said that you could go play Xbox 360... so I think the message was pretty clearto countries not in that map.

I guess I should have asked "If you are living in one of the countries that is marked on the day one X1 map" instead of just US... I was jut curious though.

WitIsWisdom

name one time a device launche in all regions at launch? none. So why is it that when the Xboxone does not release in every region at launch that means those regions will have no support? I am very confused as to how this line of thinking came to be.

Ok, I will play your game troll boy.

It's like this.

Ever heard of the internet? YES? good

Now, it doesn't matter which country you live in.. if you can not buy a PS4 at a retail store you can order one. Problem solved.

Which most people don't do. Be patient until all is launched on Jan.1st 2014.
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#91 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

No... up until the "No DRM and $399 price", most game journalists were saying Sony's E3 conference was a big bust.

StormyJoe

So? What matters is the ENTIRE comference, which Sony easily had the best.

Yeah, but your statement of "the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4" isn't really accurate - they were impressed with the price and lack of DRM, not the rest of the conference.

Sony won E3. Deal with it.

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#92 WitIsWisdom
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[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

[QUOTE="Don-Mattrick"] name one time a device launche in all regions at launch? none. So why is it that when the Xboxone does not release in every region at launch that means those regions will have no support? I am very confused as to how this line of thinking came to be.Don-Mattrick

Ok, I will play your game troll boy.

It's like this.

Ever heard of the internet? YES? good

Now, it doesn't matter which country you live in.. if you can not buy a PS4 at a retail store you can order one. Problem solved.

Which most people don't do. Be patient until all is launched on Jan.1st 2014.

Which is why several web sites have already taken down pre-orders because they are booked right?

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#93 clone01
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Yup.  And a PS4.

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#94 StormyJoe
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]So? What matters is the ENTIRE comference, which Sony easily had the best.heeweesRus

Yeah, but your statement of "the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4" isn't really accurate - they were impressed with the price and lack of DRM, not the rest of the conference.

Sony won E3. Deal with it.

LOL! That'syour comeback? You know what that says? That I am right. Thanks!

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[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

[QUOTE="Don-Mattrick"] name one time a device launche in all regions at launch? none. So why is it that when the Xboxone does not release in every region at launch that means those regions will have no support? I am very confused as to how this line of thinking came to be.Don-Mattrick

Ok, I will play your game troll boy.

It's like this.

Ever heard of the internet? YES? good

Now, it doesn't matter which country you live in.. if you can not buy a PS4 at a retail store you can order one. Problem solved.

Which most people don't do. Be patient until all is launched on Jan.1st 2014.

Exactly. As if someone from Japan is going to log into Amazon.com's UK site and order a PS4... :roll:

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#96 UnknownSniper65
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I'm unsure if I'll even buy a console at launch ,but if I do it won't be an Xbox One.

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#97 Bigboi500
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No I'm getting a PS4 to go with my Wii U and 3DS.

Nintendo_Ownes7

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[QUOTE="Don-Mattrick"][QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

Ok, I will play your game troll boy.

It's like this.

Ever heard of the internet? YES? good

Now, it doesn't matter which country you live in.. if you can not buy a PS4 at a retail store you can order one. Problem solved.

WitIsWisdom

Which most people don't do. Be patient until all is launched on Jan.1st 2014.

Which is why several web sites have already taken down pre-orders because they are booked right?

Less people import compared to people who buy official releases by a huge margin.
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#99 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

Yeah, but your statement of "the vast majority of people on GAF/System Wars are very impressed with the PS4" isn't really accurate - they were impressed with the price and lack of DRM, not the rest of the conference.

StormyJoe

Sony won E3. Deal with it.

LOL! That'syour comeback? You know what that says? That I am right. Thanks!

lol

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[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

[QUOTE="Don-Mattrick"] Which most people don't do. Be patient until all is launched on Jan.1st 2014.Don-Mattrick

Which is why several web sites have already taken down pre-orders because they are booked right?

Less people import compared to people who buy official releases by a huge margin.

Source?