Forbes: Xbox Series X Is 2020s Biggest Gaming Disappointment

"But its battery cover clips have been unnecessarily adjusted inwards–a design change that renders all previous play-and-charge kits unusable. But hey, you can buy the all-new Xbox Rechargeable Battery for the princely sum of $25. Cheers."

News to me. That sucks.

Yeah that's an odd complaint. If your game is suspended, it means it's off. If it wasn't working at all then that's something different.

They might not have a killer app but they're pushing gamepass with it.

It really isn't necessary either. He might not be a lem, but he definitely has a bias being an Xbox developer. If MS closed their gaming division, it would create a dilemma for him and that's totally understandable. I mean, I'm a .net developer and I've very comfortable using MS' development tools. If they stopped supporting .net for whatever reason, then I would have to start looking into learning something else to keep being a software engineer.

@Zero_epyon: don’t kid yourself Piedro is one of the biggest lemmings on this board for god sakes

Right and he might be, but not for the same reasons other lems like I_P are.

He's an Xbox dev? That's news to me. Nothing he says sounds particularly knowledgeable on the subject. I'm sure he's a Microsoft employee though. An Astroturfer to be exact.

Idk where he works, but he's apparently a game dev that works on Xbox games.

If MS closes its gaming division it would not create a dilemma for me or any developer. I am not sure why you draw that bizarre conclusion. The things you all say on this forum is so out there sometimes.

EDIT: Its funny reading the biggest Sony fannies; including alts, claiming I work for MS. 😂🤣

If it's any consolation, I don't think you're employable at all. 🤣

The one thing that is correct in your statement is that you don't think. 😎

So if MS consoles no longer exist, how long would it take you to find work working on a non MS console? I'm not a game developer so just curious.

😑 Firstly, I teach game development. Secondly, developing for Xbox is like developing for PC just with a tad extra. Finally, I am not sure how you think things work but that is not how it works.

He's entitled to his opinion and I can agree that the current offerings for a next gen console are basically just a more powerful X1X. I think the PS5 is kind of in the same boat with nothing that can't be played on the PS4 other than Demon Souls. PS5 may feel more like a next gen offering because of the dualsense everyone is hooting about, but as far as truely next gen games go, both are pretty dismal imo.

@Zero_epyon: So why didn't you post his PS5 piece and ask your fellow cows if they agree, at least that way you would have an informed opinion.

This just reeks of desperation from you, i'd expect this from more toxic cows, but i guess you want to see how low you can go lol.

Congrats you're rolling in the manure just like the rest of the herd lol.

uhh, if the xbox is a dissapointment, then what the hell is the ps5? The xbox at least has gamepass which gives you access to a ton of quality games. The ps5 has nothing aside from remakes and remasters. On top of that, the ps5 subscription service is crap. They only good thing about ps5 is the ps+, which has a decent collection of good games, like 15 overall but all of them are decent.

This guy is just an effing moron.

I have the ps5, please tell me what it has aside from remakes and remasters that are worth playing? *crickets* yeah I thought so.

Alot of people already played and beat the hell out of demon souls, so aside from that what is there on the ps5?

essentially the same can be said for the PS5 except it doesnt even have Quick Resume..

Well I have an Xbox Series X and I have an Xbox One X and I can say he has some valid complaints but he's being rather ignorant. There have been some disappointing things regarding the Series X and I will be the first to admit it. But I wouldn't paint the dark picture he is.

I agree with him that the quick resume is definitely not perfect but it's something that is a bonus anyway. It's not something that you can rely on but I'm sure it is something they will improve. What is a bit disappointing is that for the X1X so many games were given the patch treatment which was wonderful. For the Series X, you don't see that anywhere near as much. I also wish they had a way to automatically double or at least unlock the framerate in BC for games locked at 30fps.

Where he fails is by not realizing the smooth transition from one generation to the next. I remember in the past you had to dump your entire game library when you upgraded to next gen. You could go to gamestop and trade in or sell your games and console on ebay and then you start on the next gen at zero. That was terrible even if the graphics were a lot better. Who would buy a new PC GPU if they had to get rid of all their games with the upgrade?

The Xbox has made the upgrade to next gen so seamless much like PC. We finally moved to good CPUs which helps just all around even in speed of the menus. The downloads are much faster, everything feels so much better although it looks the same pretty much as it does on the X1X. The SSD is also a game changer and I am so glad they did that. Also the ability to move games from your SSD to an external HD at will to save space is just amazing. It is also cool that you have the option to play last gen games off of your external HD. There are just so many quality of life improvements there that I guess are easy for someone like him to ignore.

Let's not forget that a lot of the issues with maybe not having a lot of next gen patches for games have to do with the pains of a launch plus the addition of the covid situation. By the end of next year things should be a lot different in terms of content and support. I will say that it's true that upgrading from an Xbox One X to the XSX doesn't feel like the massive jump but that also says a lot about how great the X1X really was. If you own an X1X you can chill if you want and let things play out, imagine that, your purchase will hold up well. For those with an Xbox One S, upgrading is JUST COLLASAL if you go to the XSX but even moving to the XSS is just massive.

I really like the Xbox Series X and this Christmas is going to be great with so many games to play that are included in game pass ultimate. The new EA games are really cool also. Cyberpunk 2077 is looking great, I will be playing it on the XSX. It's a great time to be a gamer no matter what side you are on.

What I did is years ago I bought a bunch of eneloop rechargeable AA batteries and they work on any Xbox controller. When they finally drain, you just pop in two fresh ones and put the others to charge. It's not a big deal. I don't see the point of the play and charge kits but I guess they are cool for those who get it.

You really included demon souls remake, a game that people already played and beat back in 2009. I guess we should also include the various iterations of resident evil 4 which are released almost every few years. I heard theres going to be a remaster of re4.

Do better...give me a ps5 game thats not a remaster or a remake, i'll wait. I have the ps5 btw, and aside from cod (which you can get on the xbox also), theres nothing to play on the ps5, its 10x worse than the xbox which has gamepass to cover for it.

Why are you still mad? You can just disagree lol

Oh so you're teaching now. Or is that a side thing you do? Like I said, I'm not a game developer so I'm bound to get things wrong. And I'm ok with that.

That's a massive response but I appreciate it.

@Zero_epyon: No problem, I type very fast so it was no big deal. Btw, I am interested in eventually picking up a PS5 but I will wait a few months so that the hardware issues if any are ironed out and also the scalper situation is pretty crappy now anyway.

Miles Morales

Astro's Playroom

Sackboy

Demon's Souls (Including this because I barely played the first level on PS3)

Godfall

This is against Tetris and Gears Tactics.

B-But gamepass... :(

Teaching now? I have been teaching for a decade.

@Zero_epyon: I'm not mad, but i do know you're trying to deflect because you refuse to answer any questions, typical cow manoeuvre .

You keep up the good fight Sony soldier, hopefully your service is rewarded one day lol.

I was under the impression you were a game developer, not a teacher. How are you getting access to dev kits and stuff?

Both my man. Teaching lead to game development. I was initially a 3D environment artist now I teach game development (programming, game design and 3d art) and development games. They are both required for teaching. 😅

@Pedro:

No Forbes did and you still damage controlling it.😂😂😂

@tormentos: And no-one knows what you are talking about as usual. Its like my name really irritates you and your goons so easily. I love it. 😂

@Pedro:

You are the one who quote me first so..😂😂😂

But but but batteries.😂😂 Maybe early next year your luck will change.

The point about milking consumers for a new rechargeable controller battery is fair. Everything else is criticism that also applies to the new PS5.

@PurpleMan5000: But it's a lie. The Xbox One play and charge batteries work inside the Series X/S controllers and the battery cover fits over it just fine. I pointed out that this was a lie earlier in the thread.

The person who wrote the article was clearly using a 3rd party battery made by a different company. The battery plate cover in the One and Series are different, and some of the old Xbox One 3rd party batteries had their own unique battery plate covers. Clearly what the writer of the article is complaining about is that his 3rd party battery with an Xbox One battery cover plate doesn't fit into his Series X controller, and that's a stupid complaint. Everything 1st party works. 1st party Microsoft brand Xbox One play and charge kit batteries fit perfectly on the Series controllers, and the battery back plate fits perfectly over the battery.

You see, something like this designed for the Xbox One, where the battery is attached to the back plate cover, will not work on the Series X controllers, and that's what the writer is complaining about. He should actually specify that he's using 3rd party otherwise it just comes off as a lie.

Actually, I just re-read the original post, and the writer says it makes ALL Xbox One Play and Charge kits unusable on the Xbox Series X, so that is a flat out lie. The truth is that it only makes SOME 3rd party batteries not backwards compatible. Wow, what a jerk.

1st party. I don't mind criticisms, but when it's just a flat out bold faced lie, that's BS.

@arkephonic said:

1st party. I don't mind criticisms, but when it's just a flat out bold faced lie, that's BS.

Well there you have it. The author has no credibility!

Agreed.

@sheevpalpamemes said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Spot on assessment. XSX has no new first party games and has the worst versions of multiplats. It is a product for no one.

Agreed.

Xbox: I make Game Pass🤷‍♂️

For inferior games.

@davillain- said:

@sheevpalpamemes said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Spot on assessment. XSX has no new first party games and has the worst versions of multiplats. It is a product for no one.

Agreed.

Xbox: I make Game Pass🤷‍♂️

A new cow alt appears lol.

Your system of choice is the biggest disappointment of the year. How does that make you feel? Nvm, you don't even own the system, you're a fake just like tormentos 😱

Call the SeX what it is, a beefed up X1X.

Which may not blow anybody away at first glance, but it's a solid piece of hardware that I'm sure will become better utilized as devs get familiar with it.

But more importantly it has BC, Gamepass and Xbox Live which are the major benefits of being an Xbox owner. Sort of a hybrid PC-Console with a well-curated and walled ecosystem, you can't even buy a top notch video card for $499 these days, it's basically a bargain as a daily use gaming machine for people who just want to use a laptop for work and a console for gaming, it makes your life simple and uncomplicated, you get your Skyrims and your Fallouts and your Mass Effects.

Granted you can do the same on a PS5, but most "normal" people will just pick one and it'll usually be the one with backwards compatibility so they can play the rest of their library.

Ain't nobody got time for trying to buy a used PS3 so they can play their old copy of Red Dead Redemption, or do another replay of Half-Life.

BC is the Playstation killer and Gamepass throws dirt on the grave. Also Xbox Live > PSN and nothing you say will ever convince me that downloads aren't faster, slicker, and everything doesn't "just work" so much better on Xbox Live, especially for multiplayer gaming which we're in the age of Covid and everybody's social distancing.

So that's the third thing that kills PS5 right off the bat.

Oh and the looks.

I don't know who designed the PS5 but it is fugly, what is it with Playstations and their weird-ass curves? You had the PS3 that looked like a George Foreman Grill, and now you have this monstrosity that looks like a lovechild between Apple and John Travolta.

I think most "normal" people usually skip a generation. Like they'll go from an Xbox360 to a PS4 to an XSX, so they can still play Miles Morales and Dark Souls and whatever else.

Actually I think most "normal" people are even smarter than that, and probably like to stay 1 gen behind so they can get all the games for cheap and bug-free.

You have to be a little bit rich, a little bit stupid or a little bit fanatical to own any of the new consoles right now, much less ALL of them. Like what's even the point? The average gamer is probably still chugging away on his PS4 for the next 2-3 years playing his backlog. Or just PC games with his $200 video card budget and 1080p monitor.

Cuz, you know, that's the smart way to game anyway.

How am i a fake when i said from the start i wasn't getting one till next year, a fake is that protoss guy.

Imaging spending $750+ to play a game from 2009, what's even funnier is tormy being smarter than you for saving his money for a worthwhile game to go with the PS5 LMFAO.

Poor launch titles, $100 more than a PS5 which has shown to perform just as well with most multiplats, and lacks any controller innovation. Has been disappointing.

Stop crying. You're a fake. Not owning the X puts you in the same boat as Tormentos. I am not proud of you at all Mr IP. You disappoint me.

I dont think its a disappointment. It does what it says it would. But the lack of a big first party exclusive to show the graphics, and the comparison of its controller with the much more innovative PS5 controller hurt it.

Still, its better graphics for the same price and in a smaller package. That is quite good too.

@hardwenzen:

Why exactly am i fake? What can i play on PS5 that can play on PC or PS4 now?

DS and the robot game thats about it, sorry but i am not spending 500+ for that the xbox is even worse so as of now non are worth it.

Sorry dude, but you and IP you're both fake. Both defending their systems, but neither of you own one.

You mean "Opinion Piece that is on Forbes' website"*