Former People can fly dev: "PS4 is 50% faster,other AAA devs agree"

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] So am I. But am I not labeled and considered a cow just the same? Doesn't matter where you game the most, it matters what side you take in the large majority of SW battles, that's all it is. tormentos

Apparently you haven't read clyde post lately..:lol:

He act like some hard core lemmings here,and the PS4 can od 1080p 60 FPS like eveything it depends on what game it is,hell Crysis 3 doesn't at 60FPS on PC max out even at 1080p most card can't deal with it.

So who really cares.

I wonder what Major Nelson would say about this if he wasn't busy apologising to half of the globe.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

 

Once again, was any of that supposed to make sense?

tormentos

So you have no refutal great.

How can I refute anything if none of it makes sense?

The PS4 advantage will be evident early ondrakekratos

so the wait and see argument?

But it can't do 60FPS unless its KZ and multiplayer. clyde46

talking framerate like this is pointless.  Like there is some linear chart for graphics across all games and devs.  Different devs are more talented and every console can pull 60 FPS off if the game is not running above it's hardware requirements.  It all really means nothing when people say "it can do 60 FPS!".  The fact that a dev can pull of KZSF graphics while at 60FPS is amazing though.  It bodes well for the future of PS4 titles. 

again people are in for a rude awakening if they think there will be a huge difference.   I think its comical at this point, but so be it, i guess we should expect 60fps multiplats for PS4 and 30fps multiplats for XBO.    Also higher resolutions for the PS4, so 1080P, and maybe 768 for XBO.   :lol:  ill believe it when i see it.  

again people are in for a rude awakening if they think there will be a huge difference.   I think its comical at this point, but so be it, i guess we should expect 60fps multiplats for PS4 and 30fps multiplats for XBO.    Also higher resolutions for the PS4, so 1080P, and maybe 768 for XBO.   :lol:  ill believe it when i see it.  

XBOunity

Defending a system doesn't really make you a fanboy 100%, I defend systems all the time and I'm nowhere near a fanboy. It's when you prefer one to other systems and ignore it's flaws while putting other systems down even when they're are good things about them that makes you a fanboy.

mitu123

It does when he bring his PC 100% of the times vs the PS4 but when the argument is in favor of the xbox one he doesn't.:lol:

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Defending a system doesn't really make you a fanboy 100%, I defend systems all the time and I'm nowhere near a fanboy. It's when you prefer one to other systems and ignore it's flaws while putting other systems down even when they're are good things about them that makes you a fanboy.

tormentos

It does when he bring his PC 100% of the times vs the PS4 but when the argument is in favor of the xbox one he doesn't.:lol:

don't think that makes him a lemming

 

How can I refute anything if none of it makes sense?

lostrib

Yeah you can play dumb i am sure you got it..

GCN on PS4 >>>>>>>>>>> GCN on xbox one..

1.84TF >>>> 1.31TF.

PS4 more powerful than xbox one do to GPU with more resources..

I wonder what Major Nelson would say about this if he wasn't busy apologising to half of the globe.

Floppy_Jim

:lol:

and then when you actually play the game

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

 

How can I refute anything if none of it makes sense?

tormentos

Yeah you can play dumb i am sure you got it..

GCN on PS4 >>>>>>>>>>> GCN on xbox one..

1.84TF >>>> 1.31TF.

PS4 more powerful than xbox one do to GPU with more resources..

All I asked for was that they actually show that it is "50% faster"

Everyone knows that the ps4 is more powerful than the nsa spy boxTheKingIAm

I didn't know the NSA made a game console

Wait till the the consoles are released, if this is true than great for Sony. If not than shame on MS for trying to be too innovative.

The devs have to make a game for a single hardware set.... If they can't get games to look great and run at 60FPS on console like the PS4 then what hope has this gen got? We going to be stuck at 30FPS? Don't give me crap about how a game runs better at 30FPS, every game benefits from 60FPS. Don't bother trying to drag the PS3 into this as that is not what I'm talking about. All you cows do is jump on anyone who doesn't agree with your cow agenda...clyde46

This is a stupid argument when PC players live their lives downplaying visuals to get frames,on consoles we do it the other way around and is some how bad.

Hermit trade visuals for frames we trade frames for visuals,is the reason no 7800GTX can stand against the PS3,even that the PS3 has a gimped 7800GTX with half the ram and lower bandwidth and lower ROP to.

Clyde isn't a lem. There are a lot of closet lems this days for sure, but he is a PC guy. In fact, he was one of the first guys pre ordering the PS4 in SW :?Giancar

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

tormentos

So, what makes him one? Provide sufficient proof.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

lundy86_4

So, what makes him one? Provide sufficient proof.

lol, like el tormo ever has proof :lol:

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

lundy86_4

So, what makes him one? Provide sufficient proof.

[QUOTE="Giancar"]Clyde isn't a lem. There are a lot of closet lems this days for sure, but he is a PC guy. In fact, he was one of the first guys pre ordering the PS4 in SW :?tormentos

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

lol, like el tormo ever has proof :lol:

lostrib

Pretty much what i'm expecting :P

proof is clyde got his jimmies rustled and doesn't agree with the butthurt agenda :cool:Tessellation

We get it, Tes.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]proof is clyde got his jimmies rustled and doesn't agree with the butthurt agenda :cool:lundy86_4

We get it, Tes.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]Clyde isn't a lem. There are a lot of closet lems this days for sure, but he is a PC guy. In fact, he was one of the first guys pre ordering the PS4 in SW :?Giancar

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

NeoGaf is nothing but bias PS fanboys. I wouldn't believe anything they spout out. I'm sure none of these devs are programming on the XB1.

blackace

If its 50% more powerful I just wish the games would show it. I know these are launch games but a 50% more power there should be a noticable diffrence graphically no matter what

TheRealBigRich

Nothing on XB1 looks as good as InFamous: SS yet. Not to say XB1 couldnt run it... but until they show something, we don't know it can either.

[QUOTE="TheRealBigRich"]

If its 50% more powerful I just wish the games would show it. I know these are launch games but a 50% more power there should be a noticable diffrence graphically no matter what

moistsandwich

Nothing on XB1 looks as good as InFamous: SS yet. Not to say XB1 couldnt run it... but until they show something, we don't know it can either.

Until Microsoft shows a game that's not simply a 1080p last-gen game with higher polygon count, the performance difference does seem believable.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

Tessellation

So, what makes him one? Provide sufficient proof.

But it can't do 60FPS unless its KZ and multiplayer. clyde46

Impossible. MS has secret surprise orvsomething

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Impossible. MS has secret surprise orvsomething

Netherscourge

I just can't take any statement seriously that quotes a percentage or a multiple to describe a performance advantage. It's never as clear-cut as that.

Wasn't the Cell 3x more powerful than the Xenon at one point.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

lundy86_4

So, what makes him one? Provide sufficient proof.

Look at his post since page 1.

Then look how he brings hes PC to the argument like on many other threads,now find lemming threads about the xbox one,and see how is whole posting style is not even close to how he act on PS4 threads.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

tormentos

So, what makes him one? Provide sufficient proof.

Look at his post since page 1.

Then look how he brings hes PC to the argument like on many other threads,now find lemming threads about the xbox one,and see how is whole posting style is not even close to how he act on PS4 threads.

Again with all of this John Carmack said there isn't much of a difference between the two while others say one is faster than the other. Honestly, we need to really question the creditability of these developers and in terms of 50% faster is he talking about the rams?

If games look at least this good, than Xbox One should be fine.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/249/9/1/rysenew2_by_fireborn321-d6las3o.gif 

 

All I asked for was that they actually show that it is "50% faster"

lostrib

Lets see he is some one inside which has work on xbox 360 project including gears of war and some how he has to prove with a chart what he say..

It would be pretty easy for a developer to pull that 50% faster.

For example their multiplatform game is running at 60 FPS on PS4 but only 30 FPS on xbox one.

Now before you say anything the 7850 has as much as 40FPS advantage vs the 7770 in some games at some resolutions,and the difference is 480Gflops actually smaller than the gap between the Ps4 and xbox one.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/549?vs=536

Is no my opinion here this is a fact.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]proof is clyde got his jimmies rustled and doesn't agree with the butthurt agenda :cool:Giancar

We get it, Tes.

It must be amazing to see him order food in a restaraunt.

Albert P and Major M are technical experts in hardware graphics technology and system software tools of both the Xbone and PS4. I'll wait for them to give us the real truth. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

 

All I asked for was that they actually show that it is "50% faster"

tormentos

Lets see he is some one inside which has work on xbox 360 project including gears of war and some how he has to prove with a chart what he say..

It would be pretty easy for a developer to pull that 50% faster.

For example their multiplatform game is running at 60 FPS on PS4 but only 30 FPS on xbox one.

Now before you say anything the 7850 has as much as 40FPS advantage vs the 7770 in some games at some resolutions,and the difference is 480Gflops actually smaller than the gap between the Ps4 and xbox one.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/549?vs=536

Is no my opinion here this is a fact.

Why doesn't Knack run at 60fps?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

I own a 360 since day one doesn't make a me a lemming.

tormentos

So, what makes him one? Provide sufficient proof.

Look at his post since page 1.

Then look how he brings hes PC to the argument like on many other threads,now find lemming threads about the xbox one,and see how is whole posting style is not even close to how he act on PS4 threads.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

 

All I asked for was that they actually show that it is "50% faster"

tormentos

Lets see he is some one inside which has work on xbox 360 project including gears of war and some how he has to prove with a chart what he say..

It would be pretty easy for a developer to pull that 50% faster.

For example their multiplatform game is running at 60 FPS on PS4 but only 30 FPS on xbox one.

Now before you say anything the 7850 has as much as 40FPS advantage vs the 7770 in some games at some resolutions,and the difference is 480Gflops actually smaller than the gap between the Ps4 and xbox one.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/549?vs=536

Is no my opinion here this is a fact.

Xbots are in deep denial and MS is in full damage control mode.

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="TheRealBigRich"]

If its 50% more powerful I just wish the games would show it. I know these are launch games but a 50% more power there should be a noticable diffrence graphically no matter what

Sonysexual1

Nothing on XB1 looks as good as InFamous: SS yet. Not to say XB1 couldnt run it... but until they show something, we don't know it can either.

Until Microsoft shows a game that's not simply a 1080p last-gen game with higher polygon count, the performance difference does seem believable.

Isn't that what Infamous SS is?