Forza 2 details....GT:HD HJBO (race fans must read)

This is going to be freaking awesome!!

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/forzamotorsport2/news.html?sid=6166302

"Gamers who have always wanted to run their own car dealership will be happy to hear that the new Xbox Live Auction House will allow them to do just that...virtually, at least. The online store will allow players to put their own custom rides up for sale for in-game credits or trade with other Forza 2 users. "

This link has a picture and details

http://forzamotorsport.net/auctions/

• Create online auctions and sell your customized rides for big bucks. Dictate the terms of your sale by setting price, length of auction, instant buyout amount… even spend a little cash to mark your auction as a “featured” sale!
• Bid and outbid others for the hottest cars on the market. Since no two cars are alike, even the most common vehicles have unique value and worth.
• Auction House gives both car tuning experts and adept livery painters purpose as they can now build up in-game wealth through selling their masterpieces online.
• The ability to hide car setups online turns tuning into a hot commodity.
• The ability to lock paintjobs to their respective cars makes these customized cars truly one-of-a-kind.
• Every vehicle comes with exhaustive car history data, including total distance and time driven, total winnings, total cost of repairs, number of races, number of owners, number of times sold, and more.
• Every vehicle sold will also come with all its extra (and stock) parts in the trunk.

looks sick if they can pull it offHuxley_00

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

MrGrimFandango

F1 and GT:HD look better. and considering how good GT:HD looks you can imagin how crazy GT:5 is gonna lookGsSanAndreas

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

lawlessx

[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]F1 and GT:HD look better. and considering how good GT:HD looks you can imagin how crazy GT:5 is gonna lookjustforlotr2004

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

MrGrimFandango

i've been hyping this idea for awhile now. most people dont seem to want microtransactions, but i think its awesome, cant wait for it. whoisryanmack

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]i've been hyping this idea for awhile now. most people dont seem to want microtransactions, but i think its awesome, cant wait for it. bluebrad1974

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

AdobeArtist

Where is GT physics? damage? Thats all apart of racing, especially damage. Play your lame fairy tale driving sim, I'll play the real racing sim.

Oh and the A.I for GT is bad too.

Here is GT's A.I

*Drive perfect*

*Computer fallen behind on fixed racing path*

*Speed up beyond cars abilities to catch up to player*

*Repeat*

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

MrGrimFandango

Where is GT physics? damage? Thats all apart of racing, especially damage. Play your lame fairy tale driving sim, I'll play the real racing sim.

Oh and the A.I for GT is bad too.

Here is GT's A.I

*Drive perfect*

*Computer fallen behind on fixed racing path*

*Speed up beyond cars abilities to catch up to player, otherwise this game is too easy*

*Repeat*

milkrotransactions confirmedWarp_2567

Where? You pay ingame money for ingame cars...

[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]i've been hyping this idea for awhile now. most people dont seem to want microtransactions, but i think its awesome, cant wait for it. whoisryanmack

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

whoisryanmack

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

whoisryanmack

Where is GT physics? damage? Thats all apart of racing, especially damage. Play your lame fairy tale driving sim, I'll play the real racing sim.

Oh and the A.I for GT is bad too.

Here is GT's A.I

*Drive perfect*

*Computer fallen behind on fixed racing path*

*Speed up beyond cars abilities to catch up to player, otherwise this game is too easy*

*Repeat*

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

MrGrimFandango

Where is GT physics? damage? Thats all apart of racing, especially damage. Play your lame fairy tale driving sim, I'll play the real racing sim.

Oh and the A.I for GT is bad too.

Here is GT's A.I

*Drive perfect*

*Computer fallen behind on fixed racing path*

*Speed up beyond cars abilities to catch up to player*

*Repeat*

Forza isnt ever realistic down the stretch either. The cars dont get damaged realistically. The AI, while good doesnt even act in a realistic manner either. Forza pretty much has the same aspects as to what the GT series has always had.

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

AdobeArtist

Where is GT physics? damage? Thats all apart of racing, especially damage. Play your lame fairy tale driving sim, I'll play the real racing sim.

Oh and the A.I for GT is bad too.

Here is GT's A.I

*Drive perfect*

*Computer fallen behind on fixed racing path*

*Speed up beyond cars abilities to catch up to player, otherwise this game is too easy*

*Repeat*

[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]looks sick if they can pull it offbluebrad1974

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

flabjab93

[QUOTE="flabjab93"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

Magical_Zebra

that was years ago. they didnt want to incorporate damage into GT4 bc the PS2 couldnt meet thier expectations.

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="bluebrad1974"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]i've been hyping this idea for awhile now. most people dont seem to want microtransactions, but i think its awesome, cant wait for it. bluebrad1974

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

AdobeArtist

I'm a huge fan of cars and some motor sports. Here's why I think GT5 will be better.

1. PD has always made the most accurate tracks. The Forza guys made nurburgring 17 miles long, it's actually 13 miles in real life. Most people that go hot lapping at Nurburgring learn the track from GT4, not Forza.

2. The new Logitech steering wheel. The one with a clutch pedal and a 6 speed gated shifter. Not confirmed for GT5, but seeing how Logitech has made the last two official racing wheels for GT, and how PD are anal about being as close to real life as possible, I'd say there's a pretty good chance GT5 will support that wheel to it's fullest.

3. GT5 will have historic racing cars. These are amazing machines, from a time when driver and spectator safety weren't at the top of the list.

The only things I like about Forza are the customization options, and the AI. I don't like damage the way most people think of in game damage. Because in real life if you hit a wall at 230 MPH, that should not only complete destroy your car, but it should probably send the driver flying (M rated forza?). Or if you crash, but your car can still run how are developers supposed to accurately portray the type of damage that can happen from that? Like say suspension damage. What if you break a piston rod? What if your wing falls off? What if the frame gets bent? What if there's holes in your intercooler? And then the stuff that happens just because cars do break down. Like detonation and broken differentials. If realism is at the number one goal, you better accurately portray all types of damage that can happen from collisions, and all types of problems a car have, accurately or don't include any damage at all.

[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]F1 and GT:HD look better. and considering how good GT:HD looks you can imagin how crazy GT:5 is gonna lookjustforlotr2004

The only things I like about Forza are the customization options, and the AI. I don't like damage the way most people think of in game damage. Because in real life if you hit a wall at 230 MPH, that should not only complete destroy your car, but it should probably send the driver flying (M rated forza?). Or if you crash, but your car can still run how are developers supposed to accurately portray the type of damage that can happen from that? Like say suspension damage. What if you break a piston rod? What if your wing falls off? What if the frame gets bent? What if there's holes in your intercooler? And then the stuff that happens just because cars do break down. Like detonation and broken differentials. If realism is at the number one goal, you better accurately portray all types of damage that can happen from collisions, and all types of problems a car have, accurately or don't include any damage at all.

IronSnake

I think the damage in Forza is way overrated, The only fun I had with it is when I would play against a friend and smash into him on purpose to just damage each other up. But other than that I find it useless.

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]F1 and GT:HD look better. and considering how good GT:HD looks you can imagin how crazy GT:5 is gonna lookMe-Ur-Daddy

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

MrGrimFandango

Where is GT physics? damage? Thats all apart of racing, especially damage. Play your lame fairy tale driving sim, I'll play the real racing sim.

Oh and the A.I for GT is bad too.

Here is GT's A.I

*Drive perfect*

*Computer fallen behind on fixed racing path*

*Speed up beyond cars abilities to catch up to player*

*Repeat*

Both games look great, however Gran Turismo is a rally game, Forza is more of a street/track racing game then off-road racing.DSgamer64

I'm a huge fan of cars and some motor sports. Here's why I think GT5 will be better.

1. PD has always made the most accurate tracks. The Forza guys made nurburgring 17 miles long, it's actually 13 miles in real life. Most people that go hot lapping at Nurburgring learn the track from GT4, not Forza.

2. The new Logitech steering wheel. The one with a clutch pedal and a 6 speed gated shifter. Not confirmed for GT5, but seeing how Logitech has made the last two official racing wheels for GT, and how PD are anal about being as close to real life as possible, I'd say there's a pretty good chance GT5 will support that wheel to it's fullest.

3. GT5 will have historic racing cars. These are amazing machines, from a time when driver and spectator safety weren't at the top of the list.

The only things I like about Forza are the customization options, and the AI. I don't like damage the way most people think of in game damage. Because in real life if you hit a wall at 230 MPH, that should not only complete destroy your car, but it should probably send the driver flying (M rated forza?). Or if you crash, but your car can still run how are developers supposed to accurately portray the type of damage that can happen from that? Like say suspension damage. What if you break a piston rod? What if your wing falls off? What if the frame gets bent? What if there's holes in your intercooler? And then the stuff that happens just because cars do break down. Like detonation and broken differentials. If realism is at the number one goal, you better accurately portray all types of damage that can happen from collisions, and all types of problems a car have, accurately or don't include any damage at all.

IronSnake

F1 and GT:HD look better. and considering how good GT:HD looks you can imagin how crazy GT:5 is gonna lookGsSanAndreas

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

Ibacai

[QUOTE="IronSnake"]

I'm a huge fan of cars and some motor sports. Here's why I think GT5 will be better.

1. PD has always made the most accurate tracks. The Forza guys made nurburgring 17 miles long, it's actually 13 miles in real life. Most people that go hot lapping at Nurburgring learn the track from GT4, not Forza.

2. The new Logitech steering wheel. The one with a clutch pedal and a 6 speed gated shifter. Not confirmed for GT5, but seeing how Logitech has made the last two official racing wheels for GT, and how PD are anal about being as close to real life as possible, I'd say there's a pretty good chance GT5 will support that wheel to it's fullest.

3. GT5 will have historic racing cars. These are amazing machines, from a time when driver and spectator safety weren't at the top of the list.

The only things I like about Forza are the customization options, and the AI. I don't like damage the way most people think of in game damage. Because in real life if you hit a wall at 230 MPH, that should not only complete destroy your car, but it should probably send the driver flying (M rated forza?). Or if you crash, but your car can still run how are developers supposed to accurately portray the type of damage that can happen from that? Like say suspension damage. What if you break a piston rod? What if your wing falls off? What if the frame gets bent? What if there's holes in your intercooler? And then the stuff that happens just because cars do break down. Like detonation and broken differentials. If realism is at the number one goal, you better accurately portray all types of damage that can happen from collisions, and all types of problems a car have, accurately or don't include any damage at all.

Rage010101

I believe Test Drive Unlimited has already done the auction thing...

Nothing special.

Actually. This is not really true. I just remmember that there is no auction in TDU. Sorry. But they seem similar. :P

F1 and GT:HD look better. and considering how good GT:HD looks you can imagin how crazy GT:5 is gonna lookGsSanAndreas

[QUOTE="Rage010101"][QUOTE="IronSnake"]

I'm a huge fan of cars and some motor sports. Here's why I think GT5 will be better.

1. PD has always made the most accurate tracks. The Forza guys made nurburgring 17 miles long, it's actually 13 miles in real life. Most people that go hot lapping at Nurburgring learn the track from GT4, not Forza.

2. The new Logitech steering wheel. The one with a clutch pedal and a 6 speed gated shifter. Not confirmed for GT5, but seeing how Logitech has made the last two official racing wheels for GT, and how PD are anal about being as close to real life as possible, I'd say there's a pretty good chance GT5 will support that wheel to it's fullest.

3. GT5 will have historic racing cars. These are amazing machines, from a time when driver and spectator safety weren't at the top of the list.

The only things I like about Forza are the customization options, and the AI. I don't like damage the way most people think of in game damage. Because in real life if you hit a wall at 230 MPH, that should not only complete destroy your car, but it should probably send the driver flying (M rated forza?). Or if you crash, but your car can still run how are developers supposed to accurately portray the type of damage that can happen from that? Like say suspension damage. What if you break a piston rod? What if your wing falls off? What if the frame gets bent? What if there's holes in your intercooler? And then the stuff that happens just because cars do break down. Like detonation and broken differentials. If realism is at the number one goal, you better accurately portray all types of damage that can happen from collisions, and all types of problems a car have, accurately or don't include any damage at all.

Magical_Zebra

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

GT:HD = Driving Simulation

Forza = Racing Simulation

They are not to be compared.

whoisryanmack

Where is GT physics? damage? Thats all apart of racing, especially damage. Play your lame fairy tale driving sim, I'll play the real racing sim.

Oh and the A.I for GT is bad too.

Here is GT's A.I

*Drive perfect*

*Computer fallen behind on fixed racing path*

*Speed up beyond cars abilities to catch up to player, otherwise this game is too easy*

*Repeat*

sorry, but a game w/o accurate tire physics can't even really be called a driving simulator as contact with the roadway is paramount consideration when driving at high speeds; ie Forza..;)