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#1 killerfist
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So my copy arrived today. Guess what:

It has an installation AND disc swap.

You first have to insert disc 1 for a Forza3 save, then you have to insert disc 2 for the "full Forza 3 experience" and a 3min (2GB) installation, then you have to insert disc 1 again.

It's for the extra content (cars, tracks) that didn't fit on one disc.

Simply brilliant.

My thoughts?


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#2 SolidTy
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I have to post before the attacks and the damage control come in...

Obviously every FORZA 3 fan is going to install the 2+gigs, however, the Damage Control will claim those are FORZA extra's and therefore the install isn't needed.

Either way, it shows that DEVS are pushing the boundries as far as possible with these games using last gen's format, DVD9.

DVD9 was underused up until the middle to end of last generation, same as we are seeing with Blu-Ray now. That's my take.

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#3 aaronmullan
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I have to post before the attacks and the damage control come in...

SolidTy
I'll do the same. Commeth the damage control.
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#4 killerfist
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I have to post before the attacks and the damage control come in...

SolidTy
You made it! :P
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#5 johnnyblazed88
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3 min install is nothing i had to wait like a hour for the demo to download

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#6 Hahadouken
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Oh wow haha. Nobody can use the "I'd rather change discs than sit through an install HAHA losers!" argument this time around I guess. This will cause brains to explode trying to spin how it's better than ______ on another system.

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#7 Stats_
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Oh well. Im not 400lbs, so i'll be able to do this fine.

If i bother to get the game, im yet to decide ...

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#8 killerfist
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Obviously every FORZA 3 fan is going to install the 2+gigs, however, the Damage Control will claim those are FORZA extra's and therefore the install isn't needed.

SolidTy
I honestly wouldn't know what happens when you refuse to install it. Are some of the cars, tracks just not available? No idea how it works.
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#9 EmperorSupreme
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This wouldn't be such a big deal if all 360s included harddrives, but they don't. It would also be much less of a problem if the MS hard drives weren't so darn expensive and if MS was so against blocking 3rd partys and modded consoles. I think it's wrong to require installs on 360 at this point. DVD is 15 year old technology, time to move on.
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#10 chikenfriedrice
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not a big deal at all....oh and how is the game so far?

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#11 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Obviously every FORZA 3 fan is going to install the 2+gigs, however, the Damage Control will claim those are FORZA extra's and therefore the install isn't needed.

killerfist

I honestly wouldn't know what happens when you refuse to install it. Are some of the cars, tracks just not available? No idea how it works.

I haven't bought it yet, I just read about before hand.

I see now what you are saying. It's a mandatory install type of deal. Interesting. Ah well.

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#12 killerfist
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how is the game so far?

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The game is awesome. No further complaints at all. I refuse to use the rewind feature tho, they should've made an option to turn it off. You'll see the message whenever you make a mistake, even the smallest ones. Oh and I hear you can change the camera in cockpit view so that the camera is further away from the windscreen? Has anyone an idea how to do that?
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#13 W1NGMAN-
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I only have 8 gigs left on my harddrive :( ... make it 6 after I get FM3, also I thought the game was coming out next Tuesday, how did you get it so soon?

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#14 killerfist
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I only have 8 gigs left on my harddrive :( ... make it 6 after I get FM3, also I thought the game was coming out next Tuesday, how did you get it so soon?

W1NGMAN-

Yeah, it's not really fair for those that don't have much space left or for those that have a memory stick or no HDD at all. I'd like to see someone that didn't install it. What difference it makes.

Hm, I thought I was late:P The game released today in Europe.

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#15 mayceV
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Obviously every FORZA 3 fan is going to install the 2+gigs, however, the Damage Control will claim those are FORZA extra's and therefore the install isn't needed.

I honestly wouldn't know what happens when you refuse to install it. Are some of the cars, tracks just not available? No idea how it works.

104 cars and 22 tracks.
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#16 Supabul
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Was this second disc a collectors edition bonus and not available in the normal version

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#17 Communistsheep
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Huh? according to what you're saying, you only have to do it ONCE.

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#18 killerfist
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Was this second disc a collectors edition bonus and not available in the normal version

paul265
I have the regular edition.

Huh? according to what you're saying, you only have to do it ONCE.

Communistsheep
Yes you have to do this once. Exactly the way I described. Just thought it was funny considering the disc swap vs. installation (DVD vs. Blu-Ray) debates here on SW. Now you have a game that does both.
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#19 360hammer
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Install didn't bother me, it's the massive loading times even after an install. Long loading times for everything really got to me.

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#20 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="paul265"]

Was this second disc a collectors edition bonus and not available in the normal version

killerfist
I have the regular edition.

Huh? according to what you're saying, you only have to do it ONCE.

Communistsheep
Yes you have to do this once. Exactly the way I described. Just thought it was funny considering the disc swap vs. installation (DVD vs. Blu-Ray) debates here on SW. Now you have a game that does both.

Yeah but cmon, i hardly think one swap is enough to start a fuss.
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#21 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Yeah but cmon, i hardly think one swap is enough to start a fuss.

It's two swaps. First the game disc, then the content disc, then the game disc again.
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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Yeah but cmon, i hardly think one swap is enough to start a fuss.killerfist
It's two swaps. First the game disc, then the content disc, then the game disc again.

not to mention that one of those requires a 2GB install :(
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#23 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Yeah but cmon, i hardly think one swap is enough to start a fuss.Jandurin
It's two swaps. First the game disc, then the content disc, then the game disc again.

not to mention that one of those requires a 2GB install :(

Yar, I must admit I laughed a bit when I had to do it tho. I just got back from the forums stating how much I hated installations...lol
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#24 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="killerfist"] It's two swaps. First the game disc, then the content disc, then the game disc again.killerfist
not to mention that one of those requires a 2GB install :(

Yar, I must admit I laughed a bit when I had to do it tho. I just got back from the forums stating how much I hated installations...lol

But only once, how bad could it be?
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#25 masiisam
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Who cares about the one time disk swap to install……How is the game?

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#26 Hahadouken
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Huh? according to what you're saying, you only have to do it ONCE.

Communistsheep
Same with installs, though it doesn't stop people from bashing them.
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#27 killerfist
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Who cares about the one time disk swap to install……How is the game?

masiisam
It's great. Must buy fo sho.
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#28 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Who cares about the one time disk swap to install……How is the game?

killerfist

It's great. Must buy fo sho.

Damn you UKians….:evil:

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#29 santoron
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I'm glad Turn 10 decided to go with multiple discs and an install over cutting content to fit onto one DVD. Yeah, it makes a few loud mouthed Lemmings who looked for ownage over installs look pretty dumb. But Turn 10 doesn't care. They wanted to deliver the best game they could, and with DVD size limitations, this was the answer.

It's the solution I think we'll be seeing a lot more of as the generation moves forward...

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#30 killerfist
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Damn you UKians….:evil:masiisam
I'm from the mainland.:P

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#31 killerfist
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I'm glad Turn 10 decided to go with multiple discs and an install over cutting content to fit onto one DVD. Yeah, it makes a few loud mouthed Lemmings who looked for ownage over installs look pretty dumb. But Turn 10 doesn't care. They wanted to deliver the best game they could, and with DVD size limitations, this was the answer.

It's the solution I think we'll be seeing a lot more of as the generation moves forward...

santoron
Good point. It could have been worse. They could've cut content from the disc and release it as DLC afterwards.
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#32 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]Damn you UKians….:evil:killerfist

I'm from the mainland.:P

Damn you twice then:evil::evil:

Looks like yea got some work done on some achievements..It looks like all of them are SP player and no MP achievements….Is that right?

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#33 jerkface96
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thats how it is for FO3 GOTY edition, for 360 you have a seperate disck to download over 2 gigs of expansions then you go back to the first disc and play the

game, with the ps3's it doesnt need an install because everythings all on one disc.

doesnt really effect the game tho, but taking 2 gigs out of an HDD sucks.

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#34 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]Damn you UKians….:evil:masiisam

I'm from the mainland.:P

Damn you twice then:evil::evil:

Looks like yea got some work done on some achievements..It looks like all of them are SP player and no MP achievements….Is that right?

Yup, I haven't touched the MP yet.