Forza 3 Does NOT run at 1080p

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#1 -Reggaeton-
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http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Forza_Motorsport_3/5541.html

"We have confirmed, on video, straight from the developer's mouth, that this simply is not true."

GT5 poops all over Forza, there isnt even any competition.

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#2 -Traveller-
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Doesn't GT5 run at 12 something x 1080?

Anyways, who cares? It's still going to be an excellent game.

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#3 moose_knuckler
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Geez I wonder how bad this'll get around the time Forza 3 actually comes out lol.
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#4 foxhound_fox
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And Forza 3 is coming out in October and we still haven't seen true gameplay footage for the final version of GT5.

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#6 Chutebox
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I don't know why people believed that it would run at native 1080p.

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#7 -Renegade
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GT 5: Natively 1080p Rally Mode Nascar Mode More cars 16 cars on the track at the same time ugh Forza is an inferior racer all around.
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#8 dream431ca
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Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

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#9 navyguy21
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http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Forza_Motorsport_3/5541.html

"We have confirmed, on video, straight from the developer's mouth, that this simply is not true."

GT5 poops all over Forza, there isnt even any competition.

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lol, so forza is 720p and GT5 is 1080i?? Seriously dude??
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#10 Verge_6
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Damn, this is sad...and no, I'm not talking about Forza 3 not reaching 60fps either.
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#11 LakeFPownsu
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Forza is coming this october, and it is going to rock and look great. Have fun waiting for GT5.

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lololol 4.5 am confirmed. Enjoy lems. :P
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#13 Camer999
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Damn, this is sad...and no, I'm not talking about Forza 3 not reaching 60fps either.Verge_6
Your baiting right?

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#14 The_Game21x
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mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

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#15 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Damn, this is sad...and no, I'm not talking about Forza 3 not reaching 60fps either.Camer999

Your baiting right?

I calls 'em like I sees 'em.
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#16 BioShockOwnz
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1080p won't help jack up the score of a game, as Prologue has proven.

Forza is the current sim king, so we'll see, but I don't see that changing. Polyphony has been rather incompetent in delivering much of anything.

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#17 samuraiguns
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mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

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lol, double pwnage in one thread. :lol:
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#18 Camer999
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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Damn, this is sad...and no, I'm not talking about Forza 3 not reaching 60fps either.Verge_6

Your baiting right?

I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Forza is 60fps and GT5 is not 1080p so I see no reason, cows can't claim ownage?

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#19 Verge_6
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mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

The_Game21x
And suddenly, sub-60fps capabilities aren't so bad anymore. The cycle continues.
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#20 Chutebox
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1080p won't help jack up the score of a game, as Prologue has proven.

Forza is the current sim king, so we'll see, but I don't see that changing. Polyphony has been rather incompetent in delivering much of anything.

BioShockOwnz

Prologue wasn't even 1080p

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#21 TBoogy
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Guess what? The 360 is outputting a 1080p source, whether it is upscalled or not. So it is "running" at 1080p.Once upon a time, this whole "Native" thing was not even discussed, and I know, as I have sold and installed Home Theater equipment most of my life. But I know the whole "upscaled vs. native" debate took off after upconverting DVD players came out. I'm just saying its not totally a lie for him to say its 1080p.

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#22 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Camer999"] Your baiting right?

Camer999

I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Forza is 60fps and GT5 is not 1080p so I see no reason, cows can't claim ownage?

I think you're missing the whole point of my post...
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#23 xbox360isgr8t
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we need to stop making such big deals out of things like this. its not my fault as a fan of the 360 or your fault or the next guys fault. we are not the devs of the game that try to spin are game to make it look as good as possible. seriously who cares. developers are like weathermen they are never accurate to their claims. big freaking deal. i dont see this as ownage to me but to the idiots that make the game and claim things.
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#24 lawlessx
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mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

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nice ownage you have there The_Game21x
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#25 Camer999
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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] I calls 'em like I sees 'em.Verge_6

Forza is 60fps and GT5 is not 1080p so I see no reason, cows can't claim ownage?

I think you're missing the whole point of my post...

I may be, explain.

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GT5 isnt running on 1080p native, and i dont see how cows can claim ownage when their highest rated game and GOTY 2008 was in fact running under HD resolution :| sighs
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#27 SageJMP
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Guess what? The 360 is outputting a 1080p source, whether it is upscalled or not. So it is "running" at 1080p.Once upon a time, this whole "Native" thing was not even discussed, and I know, as I have sold and installed Home Theater equipment most of my life. But I know the whole "upscaled vs. native" debate took off after upconverting DVD players came out. I'm just saying its not totally a lie for him to say its 1080p.

TBoogy

you realize that is no different then what someone's video processor in their native 1080p TV does before displaying it. So by your logic, someone who owns a native 1080p TV, all video games and programs are running at 1080p...even Wii games :P.

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mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

The_Game21x

So we're basing GT5's resolution off of Prologue?

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#29 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Camer999"]

Forza is 60fps and GT5 is not 1080p so I see no reason, cows can't claim ownage?

Camer999

I think you're missing the whole point of my post...

I may be, explain.

OP claims "ownage" on Forza 3 because it apparently does not run at 60fps, and that it is one of the reasons that GT5 completely destroys it. He is completely oblivious to the fact that GT5 doesn't have such capabilities either, thus putting him in a rather foolish position.
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#30 foxhound_fox
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1080p won't help jack up the score of a game, as Prologue has proven.

Forza is the current sim king, so we'll see, but I don't see that changing. Polyphony has been rather incompetent in delivering much of anything.

BioShockOwnz


Bu... but... 800 cars in GT Mobile!

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So riddle me this. Does that mean Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Native 1080p) > Metal Gear Solid 4 (Upscaled 720p)? I mean, it'd have to mean that.

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#32 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] I think you're missing the whole point of my post...Verge_6

I may be, explain.

OP claims "ownage" on Forza 3 because it apparently does not run at 60fps, and that it is one of the reasons that GT5 completely destroys it. He is completely oblivious to the fact that GT5 doesn't have such capabilities either, thus putting him in a rather foolish position.

Umm, TC is claiming "ownage" at Forza 3 not running at native 1080p. Both games run in 60 fps. Both do not run in 1080p.
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#33 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

thats prologue....but im pretty sure u knew that already....
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#34 Chutebox
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So riddle me this. Does that mean Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Native 1080p) > Metal Gear Solid 4 (Upscaled 720p)? I mean, it'd have to mean that.

BioShockOwnz

Sigma isn't Native either lol.

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Roofles, looks like someone switched the title in a hurry.
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#36 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

dragonpuppy

So we're basing GT5's resolution off of Prologue?

Yeah. To my knowledge, graphics engines are usually one of the first things finished during game development and, if necessary, are polished from there as development continues. I'm not going to say GT5 isn't going to be an improvement over GT5: Prologue visually but I'm not expecting huge differences either. And yes, a bump up to native 1080p would be pretty huge in this case.
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#37 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

So riddle me this. Does that mean Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Native 1080p) > Metal Gear Solid 4 (Upscaled 720p)? I mean, it'd have to mean that.

Chutebox

Sigma isn't Native either lol.

Sigma is most certainly native.

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#38 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

Guess what? The 360 is outputting a 1080p source, whether it is upscalled or not. So it is "running" at 1080p.Once upon a time, this whole "Native" thing was not even discussed, and I know, as I have sold and installed Home Theater equipment most of my life. But I know the whole "upscaled vs. native" debate took off after upconverting DVD players came out. I'm just saying its not totally a lie for him to say its 1080p.

SageJMP

you realize that is no different then what someone's video processor in their native 1080p TV does before displaying it. So by your logic, someone who owns a native 1080p TV, all video games and programs are running at 1080p...even Wii games :P.

Well if your TV converts it instead of the system, then said system is not "running" the game in 1080p.Back in the day if you asked a salesman such as myself, we would say it boils down to which device has the better converter in it (the device or the tv). But back then, everything had to be converted since TV's were not yet digital.

PS,I am in no way saying that a native source isn't better. Just saying again that one can make that claim as long as the signal being sent out of the system is 1080p, regardless of how it started.

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#39 II-FBIsniper-II
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Roofles, looks like someone switched the title in a hurry.Verge_6
He hasn't edited his post...
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#40 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

So riddle me this. Does that mean Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Native 1080p) > Metal Gear Solid 4 (Upscaled 720p)? I mean, it'd have to mean that.

BioShockOwnz

Sigma isn't Native either lol.

Sigma is most certainly native.

Pretty sure it wasn't...have a link to that beyond list?
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#41 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Roofles, looks like someone switched the title in a hurry.II-FBIsniper-II
He hasn't edited his post...

Title. Not post.
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#42 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

1080p won't help jack up the score of a game, as Prologue has proven.

Forza is the current sim king, so we'll see, but I don't see that changing. Polyphony has been rather incompetent in delivering much of anything.

foxhound_fox


Bu... but... 800 cars in GT Mobile!

Even GT mobile destroys Forza 3 :lol: thnx for pointing that out.

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#43 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Sigma isn't Native either lol.

Chutebox

Sigma is most certainly native.

Pretty sure it wasn't...have a link to that beyond list?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

Sigma is 720p only.

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#44 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]Roofles, looks like someone switched the title in a hurry.Verge_6
He hasn't edited his post...

Title. Not post.

Editing the title would still display the "Edited on..." message at the bottom of his post.
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#45 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] He hasn't edited his post...

Title. Not post.

Editing the title would still display the "Edited on..." message at the bottom of his post.

Not from what I've seen. If so, then I admit I misread. And even if I did, it's 1:00AM here and I didn't get much sleep. The OP still made a claim of ownage on Forza 3 for possessing a trait that GT5 did as well, resolution or framerate, and the two matters are quite commonly used at the same time. Sue me.
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#46 Wasdie  Moderator
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And Forza 3 is coming out in October and we still haven't seen true gameplay footage for the final version of GT5.

foxhound_fox
I think this statement right here wins.
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#47 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Sigma is most certainly native.

Bebi_vegeta

Pretty sure it wasn't...have a link to that beyond list?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

Sigma is 720p only.

So Fifa Street and Full Auto 2 > Metal Gear Solid 4?

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#48 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

1080p won't help jack up the score of a game, as Prologue has proven.

Forza is the current sim king, so we'll see, but I don't see that changing. Polyphony has been rather incompetent in delivering much of anything.

-Reggaeton-


Bu... but... 800 cars in GT Mobile!

Even GT mobile destroys Forza 3 :lol: thnx for pointing that out.

Let's think about this for a second, shall we?

Gran Turismo 3, often thought to be the hallmark of the series, only included 150 cars (much less than the previous GT2, which had 650) and scored a 9.4.

Gran Turismo 4 included a whopping 721 and was rated an 8.9.

Forza 1 on the other hand, which "only" had 231 cars, scored a 9.2.

GTR 2 for the PC only included 25 cars and scored a 9.0.

Yeah man, thanks for showing me that having more cars always leads to better scores. You really showed me the light.

Wait a minute...

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#49 foxhound_fox
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Even GT mobile destroys Forza 3 :lol: thnx for pointing that out.

-Reggaeton-


:lol:

Funny, I prefer racing in fast cars, not Suzuki Cappucinos, Daihatsu Moves, Fiat 500Rs and Ford Model T's.

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#50 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Pretty sure it wasn't...have a link to that beyond list?BioShockOwnz

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

Sigma is 720p only.

So Fifa Street and Full Auto 2 > Metal Gear Solid 4?

In terms of resolution, yes.