Forza 3 Does NOT run at 1080p

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#201 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

GT5 does, so you can't use that argument. Failure.

h575309

Yes, GT5 does, apparently, have damage. GT5: Prologue, you know, the game people can actually play at this point in time, does not. His argument is perfectly valid.

pretty sure the comparison is to the two new upcoming racing games.... gt5 and forza 3....im sorry but gt5 just looks much more realistic.... and with car damage forza really wont have a competetive advantage anymore

GT5 looks so much more realistic based on what? A trailer? And as far as the damage GT5 will now have, we still know nothing about it. As far as we know, it could be limited only to Rally racing and purely cosmetic. Until Polyphony actually releases some of the details on what the new damage system will entail, all any of us can do is speculate.

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#202 4dgamingpwns
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need for speed 3>>>>gt5/forza3
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#204 kingman03
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]GT 5: Natively 1080p Rally Mode Nascar Mode More cars 16 cars on the track at the same time ugh Forza is an inferior racer all around.kuu2

And yet Forza will actually play better.

Worst rebuttal ever.

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#205 *airetam
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GT5 isnt running on 1080p native, and i dont see how cows can claim ownage when their highest rated game and GOTY 2008 was in fact running under HD resolution :| sighs Dante2710

dude metal gear online was running under 720p but mgs4 the story mode was running at 720p

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#206 dramaybaz
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So what if it isn't 1080 . It still looks great. Number of pixels don't decide which game owns another :roll:
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#207 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Yes, GT5 does, apparently, have damage. GT5: Prologue, you know, the game people can actually play at this point in time, does not. His argument is perfectly valid. The_Game21x

pretty sure the comparison is to the two new upcoming racing games.... gt5 and forza 3....im sorry but gt5 just looks much more realistic.... and with car damage forza really wont have a competetive advantage anymore

GT5 looks so much more realistic based on what? A trailer? And as far as the damage GT5 will now have, we still know nothing about it. As far as we know, it could be limited only to Rally racing and purely cosmetic. Until Polyphony actually releases some of the details on what the new damage system will entail, all any of us can do is speculate.

In all honesty, I have no bias. I want forza 3 to be better. The online community on the 360 is better. Doing a comparison of gt5p in cockpit and the new forza 3 demo in cockpit, the gt5p graphics just look so much better. Ill prolly still pick up forza 3 though
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#208 leonjuretic
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it doesn't run at 1080p...no one i know even feels the need to own anything but 720p if they even play games...bluray just doesn't interest anyone around me xD

Anyway, it all comes down to options and gameplay...

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#209 CubanBlunt
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GT 5: Natively 1080p Rally Mode Nascar Mode More cars 16 cars on the track at the same time ugh Forza is an inferior racer all around.-Renegade

It cant get any better then that!

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#210 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

dragonpuppy

So we're basing GT5's resolution off of Prologue?

Yes unless they somehow figure out a way to increase the resolution by 50% and add dammage modeling and other graphical enhancements and still keep a steady framerate. Sorry not going to happen. Polyphony claimed GT5: P and GTHD where 1080p when they werent so its safe to assume they will make the same claim again.

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#211 Mystery_Writer
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nooooo! (in slow motion)
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#212 hyperboy152000
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1080p won't help jack up the score of a game, as Prologue has proven.

Forza is the current sim king, so we'll see, but I don't see that changing. Polyphony has been rather incompetent in delivering much of anything.

BioShockOwnz

other then one of the highest selling franchises of all time

but who counts that right?

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#213 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]GT5 isnt running on 1080p native, and i dont see how cows can claim ownage when their highest rated game and GOTY 2008 was in fact running under HD resolution :| sighs Airetam

dude metal gear online was running under 720p but mgs4 the story mode was running at 720p

it was 1024x720p for the single player which isnt quite "true" 720p but i dont think any games other then the ps2 ports ran in true 1080p wipeout is the closest but it goes from 1220x1080p (i think) to 1900x1080p depending on whats going on on screen

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#214 xscott1018
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Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

dream431ca
yeah really... u can only tell if something is 1080p by the size of the screen. a lot of people here play games on a 32" to 42" i don't think people can really tell a difference. maybe on 42" tv but not a 32" as it's small. i don't care if a game isn't 1080p, my tv only does 720p/1080i.
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#215 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

1080p won't help jack up the score of a game, as Prologue has proven.

Forza is the current sim king, so we'll see, but I don't see that changing. Polyphony has been rather incompetent in delivering much of anything.

hyperboy152000

other then one of the highest selling franchises of all time

but who counts that right?

But those were two generations ago, when PS1 and PS2 were clearly king and nothing of its like existed to compete with it. And as they say, "Things change." Now, those conditions no longer exist. The PS3 is trailing in this generation's console war, and a viable and well-received competitor to GT now exists in Forza. Also, GT3 was a PS2 pack-in for a while, which probably influenced sales numbers.

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#216 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

xscott1018
yeah really... u can only tell if something is 1080p by the size of the screen. a lot of people here play games on a 32" to 42" i don't think people can really tell a difference. maybe on 42" tv but not a 32" as it's small. i don't care if a game isn't 1080p, my tv only does 720p/1080i.

I can tell the difference, and my screen's only 23 inches. Don't count out people with above-average vision.
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#217 caseypayne69
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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Prologue ran 1080p on my tv. VitunLehmat
It doesn't change the fact that is upscaled and no native.

Not to be bitter, but regardless of that. GT5P looks better then Forza 3. And thats not just an opinion. Graphics GT5 Amount of cars GT5 Play modes GT5 Lemans, Nascar, dirt racing Controls: dead even Sound: Dead even though GT5 is real recorded engine sounds.
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#218 sbfriends
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[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Prologue ran 1080p on my tv. caseypayne69
It doesn't change the fact that is upscaled and no native.

Not to be bitter, but regardless of that. GT5P looks better then Forza 3. And thats not just an opinion. Graphics GT5 Amount of cars GT5 Play modes GT5 Lemans, Nascar, dirt racing Controls: dead even Sound: Dead even though GT5 is real recorded engine sounds.

I don't think you know what the definition of "an opinion" is if you're trying to claim a subjective statement as fact.

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#219 kozzy1234
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LOL @ thinking graphics is all that amtters in a racing game haha.

Gameplay, realism and custimization >>>> graphics imo.

Forza3 has great looking graphics, but the forza series has always been more about gameplay.

Take the advantage in graphics, ill take the advantage in Gameplay, Custimization, Physics and realism any day for a racing game :)

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#220 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Prologue ran 1080p on my tv. caseypayne69
It doesn't change the fact that is upscaled and no native.

Not to be bitter, but regardless of that. GT5P looks better then Forza 3. And thats not just an opinion. Graphics GT5 Amount of cars GT5 Play modes GT5 Lemans, Nascar, dirt racing Controls: dead even Sound: Dead even though GT5 is real recorded engine sounds.

Gameplay, Physics, Custimization and Physics for Forza

Graphics and levels for GT

Take your pick 8)

GT just hasnt been the same the last two games imo.

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#221 bike749
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same thing keep saying and piss me off is xbox 360 don't got wheel worth buying at all. i wish Logitech Make Some Wheel For 360.

P.S. Xbox 360 Racing Wheel GarBage.:lol:

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#222 subrosian
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[QUOTE="dragonpuppy"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

The_Game21x

So we're basing GT5's resolution off of Prologue?

Yeah. To my knowledge, graphics engines are usually one of the first things finished during game development and, if necessary, are polished from there as development continues. I'm not going to say GT5 isn't going to be an improvement over GT5: Prologue visually but I'm not expecting huge differences either. And yes, a bump up to native 1080p would be pretty huge in this case.

As a tech-guru and AVS expert, I have to point out that raw resolution doesn't tell you jack about graphics, nor does raw frame rate. We watch action movies in the theater at 24 fps, including explosive car scenes (James Bond, Fast and the Furious, etc ), and we're more than impressed.

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The problem in gaming is that the listed framerate is the maximum, or for more honest companies, the average. In practice, during demanding scenes, your frame rate will be much lower. For example, you might dip down to 20 fps for a few seconds, which creates noticeable choppiness, or drop down to 25 fps, which is not as smooth as 40 fps.

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Of course we have just as many problems with the displays that people use. I would challenge any diehard fan of either of these games, who honestly believes the resolution or framerate is the "make or break" for the experience, to list the brand and model of their TV and sound system. I guarantee you 95% or more of those people will have an HDTV or sound system which has known input lag, visual artifacts, audio artifacts, or other aberrations.

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The average person doesn't know jack about the science of video / audio - they're simply looking for "ownage" on an issue they don't fully understand. Ultimately, they just wind up looking ridiculous for fighting over such an issue, especially when they're not going to change their mind on which game to buy anyway.

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#223 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="robobie"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

And Forza 3 is coming out in October and we still haven't seen true gameplay footage for the final version of GT5.

CreepyBacon

Great things take time;)

Do they now?

My links prove great things can come out in much less time when put in the hands of a talented developer.

Well because Poly is full of talent your point is invalid.
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#224 Delsage
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mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

The_Game21x
Mm hmm Prologue huh. So much ownage you have going for yourself.
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#225 rolo107
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So cows have to wait many extra years to get one title in 1080p, while lemmings get two titles in less time in a lower resolution, with minor differences in features that are rather arguably for the worse/for the better.... Big whoop...
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#226 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

mm hmm.

And neither is GT5. :wink:

Delsage

Mm hmm Prologue huh. So much ownage you have going for yourself.

Yep. Prologue, which the GT5 graphics engine will be based on.

If you want to think Polyphony is going to nearly double the horizontal resolution while keeping the framerate intact with additional graphical effects (damage, etc.) and physics calculations, you go ahead. Who knows? When GT5 actually comes out (whenever that is) you might get to claim some sort of "ownage" on me.

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#227 thelastguy
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I don't care at all, my tv only goes to 1080i

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#228 dsmccracken
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http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Forza_Motorsport_3/5541.html

"We have confirmed, on video, straight from the developer's mouth, that this simply is not true."

GT5 poops all over Forza, there isnt even any competition.

-Reggaeton-
Something that isn't around can't poop on anything.
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#229 AvIdGaMeR444
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I don't know why people believed that it would run at native 1080p.

Chutebox

I don't know why people believed it either. People need to realize this...if Forza 3 really did run in native 1080p, the game would be on at least 3 discs lol.

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#230 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I don't know why people believed that it would run at native 1080p.

AvIdGaMeR444

I don't know why people believed it either. People need to realize this...if Forza 3 really did run in native 1080p, the game would be on at least 3 discs lol.

Uh...why? From where I sit, texture resolution has little bearing on the size of a game, and you can use the same-resolution textures in 720p and in 1080p...and vice versa. Anyway, for the consoles, the RAM will be the big limiting factor for texture size, not screen resolution.

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#232 UnnDunn
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Anyone who seriously believes that any high-profile graphically-intense 3D game is rendered in 1080p simply does not understand the nature of these consoles. Neither console has enough memory to render a high-quality 3D scene with enough shaders and rendering passes to satisfy us in 1080p (while still providing a good game experience.)

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#233 Bebi_vegeta
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Who cares? There's minimal difference between 720p and 1080p anyway.

On a side note, cows seem to be on a role in system wars as of late :D

Stringerboy

Well of cours you'd probably wouldn't notice on console.