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#1 EZs
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In cockpit view when you shift gear the driver's hand remains on the steering wheel... I remember playing PGR4 the driver's hand at least move a bit to show that he touches the gearstick.

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#2 RedruM_I
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OMG the game sucks!
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#3 Stats_
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In cockpit view when you shift gear the driver's hand remains on the steering wheel... I remember playing PGR4 the driver's hand at least move a bit to show that he touches the gearstick.

EZs

That's cool and all.

In GT you can ride on the wall at 160mph.

Which is more realistic? In your opinion of course.

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#4 The_Game21x
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If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

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#5 dog_dirt
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forza is best from the bumper cam. these cockpit views are a waste of time imo
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#6 Stats_
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If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

The_Game21x

What's the worst thing about Forza 3?

I've ordered it from Amazon (It was supposed to arrive today :( ) And need some reassurance, that it's all it's cracked up to be

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#7 Panosola
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If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

The_Game21x

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

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#8 coolguy735
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There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

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#9 It_Is_Wut_It_Is
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even NFS shift had that
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#10 shadow_hosi
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the hand doesn't move? HERESY!!! we must cleanse this place!  PURGE THEM!
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#11 dog_dirt
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There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

coolguy735
this, this and f'ing this
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#12 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

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Agreed. I loved the demo. Can't wait until I get the money together for the full version!
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#13 shadow_hosi
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There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

coolguy735
i disagree arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realistic
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#14 TreeMoBMoney
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

Panosola

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Not...even close :lol::lol:
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#15 chaplainDMK
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In cockpit view when you shift gear the driver's hand remains on the steering wheel... I remember playing PGR4 the driver's hand at least move a bit to show that he touches the gearstick.

EZs

You sure the gear shift isnt on the steering wheel?

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#16 TreeMoBMoney
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[QUOTE="coolguy735"]

There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

shadow_hosi
i disagree arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realistic

i agree with arma2, great freaking game
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GS opens in 50 min..BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

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#18 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

TreeMoBMoney

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Not...even close :lol::lol:

Just curious, what do you think the best racing game is?
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#19 KingTuttle
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="coolguy735"]

There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

i disagree arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realistic

....well I have never been to war so I cannot agree or disagree.
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#20 Richymisiak
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forza is best from the bumper cam. these cockpit views are a waste of time imodog_dirt
same, i always use bumper cam for racing games
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#21 Nedemis
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

TreeMoBMoney

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Not...even close :lol::lol:

The truth always hurts. BTW....ever since Forza came out, PD has delayed time and time again. That's saying something even though they've kept quiet. It's obvious they just weren't keeping up with the new kid on the block and even now they still haven't released TRUE gameplay footage. You know why? It's simply because ONLY the cars look incredible and everything else looks last gen.
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#22 redstormrisen
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In cockpit view when you shift gear the driver's hand remains on the steering wheel... I remember playing PGR4 the driver's hand at least move a bit to show that he touches the gearstick.

EZs
(Flappy Paddle gearbox)
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#23 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="Panosola"] The truth always hurts. BTW....ever since Forza came out, PD has delayed time and time again. That's saying something even though they've kept quiet. It's obvious they just weren't keeping up with the new kid on the block and even now they still haven't released TRUE gameplay footage. You know why? It's simply because ONLY the cars look incredible and everything else looks last gen. Nedemis

So if they didnt release any real gameplay footage, how do you know evreything else looks last gen?

[QUOTE="coolguy735"]

There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

shadow_hosi

i disagree

arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realistic

No... Just no... ArmA2 is far far far from realistic... AI dooesent care for its life, they dont take cover, there is only a HP system for vehicles (if you hit the front, back or sides always the same damage, no penetration calculator etc.) and loads of mistakes.

No game is eaven close to realism

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#24 asylumni
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The truth always hurts. BTW....ever since Forza came out, PD has delayed time and time again. That's saying something even though they've kept quiet. It's obvious they just weren't keeping up with the new kid on the block and even now they still haven't released TRUE gameplay footage. You know why? It's simply because ONLY the cars look incredible and everything else looks last gen. Nedemis

Why do you feel the need to make things up when it comes to Gran Turismo? The fact is, the next game after Forza released it's first iteration is GT 5, which has not been delayed at all (since it was never given even so much as a launch window). Even still, Gran Turismo was well known for delays long before Forza was even conceived. To somehow now insinuate a link between Forza and GT delays is just preposterous.

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#25 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"]

So if they didnt release any real gameplay footage, how do you know evreything else looks last gen?

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="coolguy735"]

There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

chaplainDMK


i disagree

arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realistic

No... Just no... ArmA2 is far far far from realistic... AI dooesent care for its life, they dont take cover, there is only a HP system for vehicles (if you hit the front, back or sides always the same damage, no penetration calculator etc.) and loads of mistakes.

No game is eaven close to realism

warhammer 40k is....... except land raiders who the hell makes the rear armor the same as the front! grrr good thing i have 6 lasguns, sometimes 10

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#26 EZs
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forza is best from the bumper cam. these cockpit views are a waste of time imodog_dirt


I like the cockpit view, feels more realist IMO.


You sure the gear shift isnt on the steering wheel?
chaplainDMK


I was driving EVOX GSR, not some Ferrari :)

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#27 tupapi006
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9.5 you fanboys have been owned :lol:

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#28 Ninja-Hippo
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Are you sure you weren't just driving an automatic? :P
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#29 DJ_Lae
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It's a bizarre omission, I agree, but doesn't really hurt the game. It is comforting when I'm using the wheel, though, as the hands in-game mimic me using the paddle shifters. Paddle shifting old muscle cars is just bizarre, though.
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#30 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

TreeMoBMoney

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Not...even close :lol::lol:

lol, 9.5 says yes :D
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#31 bubbleboyii
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You should've linked this video instead.

See, this is what I meant when I said Forza's damage model was vastly overhyped. I'm sure GT's system will end up somewhat like this too, but the game closest to full body damage is probably Burnout Paradise.

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#32 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="Panosola"]

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Nedemis

Not...even close :lol::lol:

The truth always hurts. BTW....ever since Forza came out, PD has delayed time and time again. That's saying something even though they've kept quiet. It's obvious they just weren't keeping up with the new kid on the block and even now they still haven't released TRUE gameplay footage. You know why? It's simply because ONLY the cars look incredible and everything else looks last gen.

Since when GT5 got a release date window as what I remember PD didnt say any release date but people were expecting things and just stop being a fanboy and wait till GT5 is out then judge if everything in it looks last gen or no.

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#33 redstormrisen
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[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]
i disagree

arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realisticshadow_hosi

No... Just no... ArmA2 is far far far from realistic... AI dooesent care for its life, they dont take cover, there is only a HP system for vehicles (if you hit the front, back or sides always the same damage, no penetration calculator etc.) and loads of mistakes.

No game is eaven close to realism

warhammer 40k is....... except land raiders who the hell makes the rear armor the same as the front! grrr good thing i have 6 lasguns, sometimes 10

Not to pick holes, but lasguns are only strength 3. Even 6 lascannons would have trouble under the 5th ed ruleset. Go with melta, lots and lots of melta.

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#34 Quadster
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i personally don't like either Gran Turismo or Forza, i prefer games with a more arcade feel to them: like Ridge Racer 6 or Full Auto. Atleast they're not trying to be realistic. PGR3 was ok for middle ground between Arcade and Simulation, but i liked the tight controls and frantic play of my 2 prefered games than ropey controls of 'simulation' Not everyone wants simulation, but would like to hurtle down a track at breakneck speeds without having to think about how to control the car in an accurate fashion.(That to me is what escapism is all about) Also, Damage Physics is another thing i've seen appearing in titles over the last few years which adds to your experience, just look at full auto, hardly realistic, but it's lots of fun to play
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#35 BioShockOwnz
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It's realistic enough to get 9.5'd. :)

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#36 rolo107
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[QUOTE="coolguy735"]

There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

shadow_hosi


i disagree

arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realistic

No... Just no... ArmA2 is far far far from realistic... AI dooesent care for its life, they dont take cover, there is only a HP system for vehicles (if you hit the front, back or sides always the same damage, no penetration calculator etc.) and loads of mistakes.

No game is eaven close to realism

Buddy, in real life, vehicles don't have HP... And I have ARMA2, and the AI does care for its life. I don't know what you are smoking, but it is excellent AI. It glitches, but all AI glitches in a sandbox environment.

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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

TreeMoBMoney

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Not...even close :lol::lol:

Really? Not even close? Name five games which are better than it than. Heck, even three. :|
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#38 navyguy21
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You should've linked this video instead.

See, this is what I meant when I said Forza's damage model was vastly overhyped. I'm sure GT's system will end up somewhat like this too, but the game closest to full body damage is probably Burnout Paradise.

bubbleboyii
burnout paradise doesnt use licensed cars though. There is a limit to the damage that can be done to the cars due to licensing agreements. The cant crumple the cars. But scratches, dings, paint scraps, and missing bumpers/mirrors/windows is apparently ok.
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#39 KingTuttle
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Are you sure you weren't just driving an automatic? :PNinja-Hippo
LOL nice.
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#40 nervmeister
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In cockpit view when you shift gear the driver's hand remains on the steering wheel... I remember playing PGR4 the driver's hand at least move a bit to show that he touches the gearstick.

EZs
Nitpicking to the extreme, FTW?
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#41 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="Panosola"]

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Ninja-Hippo

Not...even close :lol::lol:

Really? Not even close? Name five games which are better than it than. Heck, even three. :|

Do you mean five games in general, or five racing games?

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#42 PBSnipes
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Turn 10 already explained this, they couldn't get the animation working correctly (long story short they didn't model the driver's hands correctly, or at least that's my understanding) in time for launch. It sucks, but it ain't exactly a game breaker.

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[QUOTE="coolguy735"]

There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

shadow_hosi
i disagree arma2, Red Orchestra, Darkest Hour, and any simulator game is incredibly realistic

Ever been in combat?
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#44 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

Panosola

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

if we are going by all time im gonna go out on a limb and say Road Rash and Burnout 2 just stomp it and piss on its ashes imo.

But i can see where he is coming from i mean the physics are realistic but its little simple things that also help add to the total realistic vision of the game itself in essence all those small things add up when you really think about it but nonetheless its still a good game.

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#45 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

If this is all people can find to complain about with Forza 3, then it must be a really great game. :)

razgriz_101

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

if we are going by all time im gonna go out on a limb and say Road Rash and Burnout 2 just stomp it and piss on its ashes imo.

But i can see where he is coming from i mean the physics are realistic but its little simple things that also help add to the total realistic vision of the game itself in essence all those small things add up when you really think about it but nonetheless its still a good game.

well according to GS the only racing game better than forza 3 is test drive le mans for the dreamcast which got 9.6

linky

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#46 Ontain
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Buddy, in real life, vehicles don't have HP... And I have ARMA2, and the AI does care for its life. I don't know what you are smoking, but it is excellent AI. It glitches, but all AI glitches in a sandbox environment.

rolo107
how's the environmental destruction? that's usually something i find lacking. Like busting down buildings and walls with grenades or tank shells. I mean all buildings not just some scripted ones.
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#47 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="rolo107"]

Buddy, in real life, vehicles don't have HP... And I have ARMA2, and the AI does care for its life. I don't know what you are smoking, but it is excellent AI. It glitches, but all AI glitches in a sandbox environment.

Ontain
how's the environmental destruction? that's usually something i find lacking. Like busting down buildings and walls with grenades or tank shells. I mean all buildings not just some scripted ones.

environmental destruction and non linearity are the two things i want most in fps, its why i wish my pc could play crysis :(
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#48 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

I agree......:lol::lol:

FORZA 3 is the best Racing Game.8)

Richymisiak

if we are going by all time im gonna go out on a limb and say Road Rash and Burnout 2 just stomp it and piss on its ashes imo.

But i can see where he is coming from i mean the physics are realistic but its little simple things that also help add to the total realistic vision of the game itself in essence all those small things add up when you really think about it but nonetheless its still a good game.

well according to GS the only racing game better than forza 3 is test drive le mans for the dreamcast which got 9.6

linky

xD now tbh that is pretty goddamn epic when some lems are saying its the best.I dunno whether to laugh horrendously or hold up a massive flame shield or hid in a bunker and watch the damage control ensue.

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#49 EZs
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But i can see where he is coming from i mean the physics are realistic but its little simple things that also help add to the total realistic vision of the game itself in essence all those small things add up when you really think about it but nonetheless its still a good game.

razgriz_101

yes correct, you understood my point :)

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#50 planbfreak4eva
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There isn't a single videogame which is remotely realistic.

coolguy735
? gran turismo..even the prologue is more realistic to forza 3..and forza 3 is full game and gt5 is just a prologue...imagine how many times better and realistic gt5 will be