Forza 3's graphics are better then gt5's

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#1 slipknot0129
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I play forza 3in first personview and the levels look alot better then in gt5. Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 gamebut forza 3's looks vivid and has alot of detail. I can see that forza 3 looks better.

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#2 SaltyMeatballs
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On Forza, some parts looked amazing, other parts not so amazing. I say they are pretty even, but I think GT5 looks a bit better.
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both games will rock, lets leave it at that. don't you guys like peaceful sundays? :|

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#4 skektek
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I play forza 3in first personview and the levels look alot better then in gt5. Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 gamebut forza 3's looks vivid and has alot of detail. I can see that forza 3 looks better.

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How did you get a copy of GT5?

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#5 sayonara89
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h3w9sS8iZQ&fmt=22

Resolution: GT5P - 1280x1080, F3 - 1280x720

Anti Aliasing: GT5P - MSAAx2 in 1080p mode or MSAAx4 in 720 mode, F3 - MSAAx2

Number of cars on track: GT5P - 16, F3 - 8

And without and technical informations:

Tracks: Better in F3

Lighting: Better in GT5P

Cars: Better in GT5P

:)

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#6 i_am_interested
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thats cool

some of us arent impressed by graphics that rely on pre-damaged car models, or car models that are giant blocks and dont have doors, hoods, or bumpers that exist as physics based properties during a race

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Car models- GT5 Enviornments- Forza 3 Lighting- GT5
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As much as I love Forza 3, I can't agree with you overall. While I do think that Forza 3's environments are top notch and above what we've seen for GT5, the car models and lighting in GT5 are just better than Forza 3 based purely on what we've seen of the game so far.

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#9 Fraquelli
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I play forza 3in first personview and the levels look alot better then in gt5. Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 gamebut forza 3's looks vivid and has alot of detail. I can see that forza 3 looks better.

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How did you get a copy of GT5?

Oh snap, I was just about to ask him that!
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#10 heretrix
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As much as I love Forza 3, I can't agree with you overall. While I do think that Forza 3's environments are top notch and above what we've seen for GT5, the car models and lighting in GT5 are just better than Forza 3 based purely on what we've seen of the game so far.

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This. Both games have their advantages over the other.

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#11 racing1750
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As much as I love Forza 3, I can't agree with you overall. While I do think that Forza 3's environments are top notch and above what we've seen for GT5, the car models and lighting in GT5 are just better than Forza 3 based purely on what we've seen of the game so far.

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#12 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I play forza 3in first personview and the levels look alot better then in gt5. Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 gamebut forza 3's looks vivid and has alot of detail. I can see that forza 3 looks better.

skektek

How did you get a copy of GT5?

I'm interested in that also.

Unless he's comparing to GT5: Prologue which doesn't make sense (not saying that GT5 will look better than prologue, however it still makes no sense).

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#13 EndorphinMaster
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GT5 is the overall better looking game, minus the 2D environment.

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#14 ChaltierX
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The game isn't even out yet...

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Never would have suspected that...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h3w9sS8iZQ&fmt=22

Resolution: GT5P - 1280x1080, F3 - 1280x720

Anti Aliasing: GT5P - MSAAx2 in 1080p mode or MSAAx4 in 720 mode, F3 - MSAAx2

Number of cars on track: GT5P - 16, F3 - 8

And without and technical informations:

Tracks: Better in F3

Lighting: Better in GT5P

Cars: Better in GT5P

:)

sayonara89

There is no MSAA in 1080p mode, also in the newest demo the cars looked better in Forza 3(the video was moving really slowing on my comp for some strange reason, I didn't watch). Also the livery editor is something that take up resorces. Also, the complexity of the driving model is suprior in forza.

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#17 Mattizzle815
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According to the other thread the TC made, he hasn't even held a ps3 controller.. So don't really listen to what he says

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Well I've only played gt5 and never played Forza, but it looks better than Forza. I just know cause I seen it.
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[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h3w9sS8iZQ&fmt=22

Resolution: GT5P - 1280x1080, F3 - 1280x720

Anti Aliasing: GT5P - MSAAx2 in 1080p mode or MSAAx4 in 720 mode, F3 - MSAAx2

Number of cars on track: GT5P - 16, F3 - 8

And without and technical informations:

Tracks: Better in F3

Lighting: Better in GT5P

Cars: Better in GT5P

:)

MC3887

There is no MSAA in 1080p mode, also in the newest demo the cars looked better in Forza 3(the video was moving really slowing on my comp for some strange reason, I didn't watch). Also the livery editor is something that take up resorces. Also, the complexity of the driving model is suprior in forza.

There is MSAA in 1080p mode "Invoke the might of 1080p, and the framebuffer is set at 1280x1080. That's a 50 per cent resolution increase over 720p mode, with AA dropped to 2x."

http://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry/

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#20 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h3w9sS8iZQ&fmt=22

Resolution: GT5P - 1280x1080, F3 - 1280x720

Anti Aliasing: GT5P - MSAAx2 in 1080p mode or MSAAx4 in 720 mode, F3 - MSAAx2

Number of cars on track: GT5P - 16, F3 - 8

And without and technical informations:

Tracks: Better in F3

Lighting: Better in GT5P

Cars: Better in GT5P

:)

GTSaiyanjin2

There is no MSAA in 1080p mode, also in the newest demo the cars looked better in Forza 3(the video was moving really slowing on my comp for some strange reason, I didn't watch). Also the livery editor is something that take up resorces. Also, the complexity of the driving model is suprior in forza.

There is MSAA in 1080p mode "Invoke the might of 1080p, and the framebuffer is set at 1280x1080. That's a 50 per cent resolution increase over 720p mode, with AA dropped to 2x."

http://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry/

I was wrong, self-owned.

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[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h3w9sS8iZQ&fmt=22

Resolution: GT5P - 1280x1080, F3 - 1280x720

Anti Aliasing: GT5P - MSAAx2 in 1080p mode or MSAAx4 in 720 mode, F3 - MSAAx2

Number of cars on track: GT5P - 16, F3 - 8

And without and technical informations:

Tracks: Better in F3

Lighting: Better in GT5P

Cars: Better in GT5P

:)

MC3887

There is no MSAA in 1080p mode, also in the newest demo the cars looked better in Forza 3(the video was moving really slowing on my comp for some strange reason, I didn't watch). Also the livery editor is something that take up resorces. Also, the complexity of the driving model is suprior in forza.

actually yeah there is for GT5p, its 2x msaa at 1280x180, and 4x msaa at 1280x720 and the complexity of the driving model is superior in forza? according to who? turn 10 and their random 360hz physics number? nfs shift does 400, theyre just numbers
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1 game took 2yrs. and $20 million to develop, the other took 5yrs and $60 million+ to develop.

I do think GT5 has more consistently high quality lighting, and obviously more cars on track.

FM3 is incredible though, and totally deserving of it's 9.5 score. Unless you have both a 360 and PS3, there's really no need to worry about which game is better. Even then, GT5 will release 1 full year after FM3, so why not enjoy both at that rate.

I agree that cockpit view is the only way to play. Things just look and play way better from inside the car.

Here's some FM3 screens I took...

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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h3w9sS8iZQ&fmt=22

Resolution: GT5P - 1280x1080, F3 - 1280x720

Anti Aliasing: GT5P - MSAAx2 in 1080p mode or MSAAx4 in 720 mode, F3 - MSAAx2

Number of cars on track: GT5P - 16, F3 - 8

And without and technical informations:

Tracks: Better in F3

Lighting: Better in GT5P

Cars: Better in GT5P

:)

i_am_interested

There is no MSAA in 1080p mode, also in the newest demo the cars looked better in Forza 3(the video was moving really slowing on my comp for some strange reason, I didn't watch). Also the livery editor is something that take up resorces. Also, the complexity of the driving model is suprior in forza.

actually yeah there is for GT5p, its 2x msaa at 1280x180, and 4x msaa at 1280x720 and the complexity of the driving model is superior in forza? according to who? turn 10 and their random 360hz physics number? nfs shift does 400, theyre just numbers

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M5gOlKkYYA and that is just forza 2. Forza 3 they ranked with PC sims.

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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

There is no MSAA in 1080p mode, also in the newest demo the cars looked better in Forza 3(the video was moving really slowing on my comp for some strange reason, I didn't watch). Also the livery editor is something that take up resorces. Also, the complexity of the driving model is suprior in forza.

MC3887

actually yeah there is for GT5p, its 2x msaa at 1280x180, and 4x msaa at 1280x720 and the complexity of the driving model is superior in forza? according to who? turn 10 and their random 360hz physics number? nfs shift does 400, theyre just numbers

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M5gOlKkYYA and that is just forza 2. Forza 3 they ranked with PC sims.

thats cool, i guess thats why its called prologue and not just GT5 and arent sims about authenticity? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04fLAsGay4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0EjjkVCjvI you tell me which seems more authentic to the actual veyron
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In certain areas, yes. In others, no.
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#26 Disturbed123
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Car models? GT takes the cake.

Environments? Forza, but a little overexaguarated. Its like Final Fantasy levels :P GT has more of a realism approach

Forza cant graphically compete with NFS Shift, yet alone GT.

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[QUOTE="racing1750"]Car models- GT5 Enviornments- Forza 3 Lighting- GT5

I dont know why people think forza has better enviroments.Here is a comparison of the same map and car showing GT with double the cars still looking better having better texture and not being a dithered mess.
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#28 MC3887
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Forza has the better environmental textures/ environments period and in the latest compairson FM3 is looking better(car wise). Yes, you can say it is a 200mb demo but the fact is is that the frame rate dropped to 52FPS at one point, with 1-2 cars on screen.

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[QUOTE="racing1750"]Car models- GT5 Enviornments- Forza 3 Lighting- GT5killzowned24
I dont know why people think forza has better enviroments.Here is a comparison of the same map and car showing GT with double the cars still looking better having better texture and not being a dithered mess.

From those comparisons alone, you can tell fairly easily the top pic (F3) has the better enviroments. It's fairly easy to spot
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Forza has the better environmental textures/ environments period and in the latest compairson FM3 is looking better(car wise). Yes, you can say it is a 200mb demo but the fact is is that the frame rate dropped to 52FPS at one point, with 1-2 cars on screen.

MC3887

youre right, it is a demo, which is why im ok with it dropping to 52

maybe it dropped to 52 because it actually has fully modeled interiors during the 3rd person cam

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#32 asdasdrgr
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I play forza 3in first personview and the levels look alot better then in gt5. Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 gamebut forza 3's looks vivid and has alot of detail. I can see that forza 3 looks better.

skektek

How did you get a copy of GT5?

I am also curious.
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GT5 is a failure. With the budget and development time, it should be absolutely blowing F3 out of the water. The fact that it is still actually debatable is either terrible for PD or very impressive for Turn 10.

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GT5 is a failure. With the budget and development time, it should be absolutely blowing F3 out of the water. The fact that it is still actually debatable is either terrible for PD or very impressive for Turn 10.

T-Aldous
what does blowing it out of the water mean? or is that another baseless claim
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I guess I just care more about the car models and dash. Buttt. Have you played GT5 yet? If you did, please, can you get me a copy too?

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#37 killzowned24
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GT5 is a failure. With the budget and development time, it should be absolutely blowing F3 out of the water. The fact that it is still actually debatable is either terrible for PD or very impressive for Turn 10.

T-Aldous
hmmm, double the cars take time do they not?
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#38 MC3887
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yea

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="racing1750"]Car models- GT5 Enviornments- Forza 3 Lighting- GT5moose_knuckler
I dont know why people think forza has better enviroments.Here is a comparison of the same map and car showing GT with double the cars still looking better having better texture and not being a dithered mess.

From those comparisons alone, you can tell fairly easily the top pic (F3) has the better enviroments. It's fairly easy to spot

the toppic has much worse AA and the ground textures look more flat
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what do those pictures prove? that theyre not using cars with modeled interiors in 3rd person cam? do an experiment for me, follow a CPU controlled car in 3rd person and look at the rear windshield, then swith to cockpit view or bonnet view and look at that same rear windshield whats going on?
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#42 MC3887
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looks like forza has slightly better exteriors with worse interiors.

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#43 i_am_interested
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looks like forza has slightly better exteriors with worse interiors.

MC3887

how can forza have better exteriors when the veyron doesnt even have active aero in forza

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#44 Funconsole
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Don't wanna sound dumb but using a little something called logic (something SW seems to lack), one would assume a game that is released vs a game that is not released and recently got postponed, the released game would have better graphics. Seriously, I thought it was only cows who lacked logic but now it appears as if the disease is spreading
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#45 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

looks like forza has slightly better exteriors with worse interiors.

i_am_interested

how can forza have better exteriors when the veyron doesnt even have active aero in forza

Active aero is an animation not texture/polygons, lol, I am not even nit-picking as bad as you and I could really pick at GT if I wanted to and they you would say, "it is a demo".

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#46 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

looks like forza has slightly better exteriors with worse interiors.

MC3887

how can forza have better exteriors when the veyron doesnt even have active aero in forza

Active aero is an animation not texture/polygons, lol, I am not even nit-picking as bad as you and I could really pick at GT if I wanted to and they you would say, "it is a demo".

are we going to claim that active aero isnt modeled with polygons and textures in GT?
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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] how can forza have better exteriors when the veyron doesnt even have active aero in forza

i_am_interested

Active aero is an animation not texture/polygons, lol, I am not even nit-picking as bad as you and I could really pick at GT if I wanted to and they you would say, "it is a demo".

are we going to claim that active aero isnt modeled with polygons and textures in GT?

No, I am saying you need an animation for it everything uses polys/textures but it is like you are saying you need like another 50k polys lol.

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#48 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

Active aero is an animation not texture/polygons, lol, I am not even nit-picking as bad as you and I could really pick at GT if I wanted to and they you would say, "it is a demo".

MC3887

are we going to claim that active aero isnt modeled with polygons and textures in GT?

No, I am saying you need an animation for it everything uses polys/textures but it is like you are saying you need like another 50k polys lol.

maybe its animated because polyphony actually models it unlike turn 10
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#49 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] are we going to claim that active aero isnt modeled with polygons and textures in GT?i_am_interested

No, I am saying you need an animation for it everything uses polys/textures but it is like you are saying you need like another 50k polys lol.

maybe its animated because polyphony actually models it unlike turn 10

Or maybe they didn't have 5 years.

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#50 my_name_is_ron
Member since 2005 • 5549 Posts

has anybody noticed the seriously bad quality of the sponsors on the racing cars in forza 3? check them out next time and you'll notice.

forza still suffers from being set in really boring environments. i'd say it looks no better than gt5p so i'd assume when gt5 eventually comes out it'll look a decent way better than forza 3 does. but then it should since it's coming out much later. what shocks me is that turn 10 can't make forza look better than gt5p