Forza 3's graphics are better then gt5's

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

No, I am saying you need an animation for it everything uses polys/textures but it is like you are saying you need like another 50k polys lol.

MC3887

Or maybe they didn't have 5 years.

polyphony doesnt miss important details when they model cars

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

GT5 is a failure. With the budget and development time, it should be absolutely blowing F3 out of the water. The fact that it is still actually debatable is either terrible for PD or very impressive for Turn 10.

i_am_interested

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] maybe its animated because polyphony actually models it unlike turn 10i_am_interested

Or maybe they didn't have 5 years.

polyphony doesnt miss important details when they model cars

Doesn't matter, it is still calculated in the physics, and proof GT4 has active aero? They said they did not have enough time, MS was rushing them.

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

GT5 is a failure. With the budget and development time, it should be absolutely blowing F3 out of the water. The fact that it is still actually debatable is either terrible for PD or very impressive for Turn 10.

T-Aldous

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

Or maybe they didn't have 5 years.

MC3887

polyphony doesnt miss important details when they model cars

Doesn't matter, it is still calculated in the physics, and proof GT4 has active aero? They said they did not have enough time, MS was rushing them.

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="i_am_interested"] what does blowing it out of the water mean? or is that another baseless claimi_am_interested

Both have modeled interiors lol

Both are 3D

Active aero is still calculated in physics

The panels stink and many have complaned I think both are pretty much pre-damage models.

Twice the cars, yes, with inferior A.I, and worse physics.

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] are we going to claim that active aero isnt modeled with polygons and textures in GT?i_am_interested

No, I am saying you need an animation for it everything uses polys/textures but it is like you are saying you need like another 50k polys lol.

GT5 still looks better

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="T-Aldous"]It means that graphically, it should not even be a debate. GT5 given the time and budget that it has should be obviously better than FM3 in every way. That fact that it is not it just well....sad.MC3887

Both have modeled interiors lol

Both are 3D

Active aero is still calculated in physics

The panels stink and many have complaned I think both are pretty much pre-damage models.

Twice the cars, yes, with inferior A.I, and worse physics.

they both have modeled interiors? is that why im seeing all these tinted windows on CPU-opponents that dont appear during the cockpit view?

both are stereoscopic 3d? so forza 3 lets you run it at 120fps?

youve proven nothing about forza's active aero or turn 10s "maybe they wont notice" approach - maybe if we dont model the aero, they wont expect the correlating physical downforce

forget the many, i see through forza predamaged model system unlike the rest, nevermind how forza lacks physics based doors, hoods, trunks, and bumpers

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

No, I am saying you need an animation for it everything uses polys/textures but it is like you are saying you need like another 50k polys lol.

killzowned24

they claim theyve fixed that with a patch

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="i_am_interested"] maybe its animated because polyphony actually models it unlike turn 10i_am_interested

they claim theyve fixed that with a patch

Still doesn't work with every car

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] like how forza driver doesnt shift ..lolthelastguy

they claim theyve fixed that with a patch

Still doesn't work with every car

more missing graphical details

people have even pointed out how GT5 takes into account whether the paddle shifts are directly behind the wheel or further down the column - and how the driver makes the appropriate reaching movements for paddle shifts for specific cars

I finally played some Forza 3 today, and it is definately the best racing game out this generation. But I was not impressed by it's graphics. The environments look great, but GT5 won't be far behind.

The car details however is where GT5 shines, and with FM3 I was really disappointed, specially with the interior view. In GT5p you can tell what materials the interior is made of, while in FM3 everything looks like plastic with it's bad textures and lighting. The car models in-game are awefull compared to GT5. I enjoyed playind GT5p using the interior view, but in FM3 it just hurts my eyes.

And one more thing about the overrall graphics. I think that the colours and lighting in GT5 makes it look more realistic compared to FM3's plastic feel. A red car in FM3 looks like a toy car sometimes.

I finally played some Forza 3 today, and it is definately the best racing game out this generation. But I was not impressed by it's graphics. The environments look great, but GT5 won't be far behind.

The car details however is where GT5 shines, and with FM3 I was really disappointed, specially with the interior view. In GT5p you can tell what materials the interior is made of, while in FM3 everything looks like plastic with it's bad textures and lighting. The car models in-game are awefull compared to GT5. I enjoyed playind GT5p using the interior view, but in FM3 it just hurts my eyes.

And one more thing about the overrall graphics. I think that the colours and lighting in GT5 makes it look more realistic compared to FM3's plastic feel. A red car in FM3 looks like a toy car sometimes.

Martin_G_N

the authentic appearance of materials is a very important minor detail in GT lacking in competitors

like how the bumper cover here appears that its actually being wrapped around the bumper and not painted on

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

No, I am saying you need an animation for it everything uses polys/textures but it is like you are saying you need like another 50k polys lol.

killzowned24

The crazy thing is cars with paddle shifters are even animated like they should be.

Like on this Gallardo.

Even at 0:27 you can see the driver puts his hand up even though he doesn't shift. Almost like he's waiting just in case he needs to downshift. That kind of attention to detail is amazing.

Forza 3 is the best racing game and i agree it look and play better than GT5. FORZA 3>>>>>GT5.Panosola

Please lend me your copy of GT5.

[QUOTE="Panosola"]Forza 3 is the best racing game and i agree it look and play better than GT5. FORZA 3>>>>>GT5.Kashiwaba

Please lend me your copy of GT5.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]Forza 3 is the best racing game and i agree it look and play better than GT5. FORZA 3>>>>>GT5.Panosola

Please lend me your copy of GT5.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]Forza 3 is the best racing game and i agree it look and play better than GT5. FORZA 3>>>>>GT5.Panosola

Please lend me your copy of GT5.

If we're doing a fair comparison, shouldn't we compare the demos with each other, and not a demo vs. a full game?

i love how people are comparing a full game with a demo. come onn people, you guys sound a bit too fanboyish. Whats even more sad is that the ps3 fanboys are able to withstand 360 fanboy comments with their demo and prologue.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I play forza 3in first personview and the levels look alot better then in gt5. Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 gamebut forza 3's looks vivid and has alot of detail. I can see that forza 3 looks better.

skektek

How did you get a copy of GT5?

He's obviously from the future and just warning us to not buy GT5

Does GT's physics even model actual in game tire deformation? Out of all of the things being talked about in this thread that is probably the most important for a racing sim. If it does not Forza 3 automatically kills GT in the SIM aspect. Also have any professional F1 drivers played GT and commented that it was almost exactly true to life? Turn 10 invited a professional F1 driver to play Forza 3 and his Le Mans time was only two tenths of a second different then his real life Le Mans lap time, and this guy didn't have any prior experience with Forza he just sat down and drove it like he does in real life. Does it get any better than that?

Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 game

slipknot0129

Forza 3 is the best racing game and i agree it look and play better than GT5. FORZA 3>>>>>GT5.Panosola

how cute, a hardcore lemming hiding behind a nintendo sig.

o btw can i borrow your time machine, ive been waiting to play gt5 for a while now.

Does GT's physics even model actual in game tire deformation? Out of all of the things being talked about in this thread that is probably the most important for a racing sim. If it does not Forza 3 automatically kills GT in the SIM aspect. Also have any professional F1 drivers played GT and commented that it was almost exactly true to life? Turn 10 invited a professional F1 driver to play Forza 3 and his Le Mans time was only two tenths of a second different then his real life Le Mans lap time, and this guy didn't have any prior experience with Forza he just sat down and drove it like he does in real life. Does it get any better than that?

nosedive7

Does GT's physics even model actual in game tire deformation? Out of all of the things being talked about in this thread that is probably the most important for a racing sim. If it does not Forza 3 automatically kills GT in the SIM aspect. Also have any professional F1 drivers played GT and commented that it was almost exactly true to life? Turn 10 invited a professional F1 driver to play Forza 3 and his Le Mans time was only two tenths of a second different then his real life Le Mans lap time, and this guy didn't have any prior experience with Forza he just sat down and drove it like he does in real life. Does it get any better than that?

nosedive7

there are tons of pro drivers who play GT, this is just one example.

I play forza 3in first personview and the levels look alot better then in gt5. Gt5's levels look bland like a ps2 gamebut forza 3's looks vivid and has alot of detail. I can see that forza 3 looks better.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="T-Aldous"]

GT5 is a failure. With the budget and development time, it should be absolutely blowing F3 out of the water. The fact that it is still actually debatable is either terrible for PD or very impressive for Turn 10.

T-Aldous

Does GT's physics even model actual in game tire deformation? Out of all of the things being talked about in this thread that is probably the most important for a racing sim. If it does not Forza 3 automatically kills GT in the SIM aspect. Also have any professional F1 drivers played GT and commented that it was almost exactly true to life? Turn 10 invited a professional F1 driver to play Forza 3 and his Le Mans time was only two tenths of a second different then his real life Le Mans lap time, and this guy didn't have any prior experience with Forza he just sat down and drove it like he does in real life. Does it get any better than that?

nosedive7

we still have to wait for GT5 to get release or else more GAMEPLAY vids are shown... However from the little i've seen it surely doesnt look like F3 has better visuals than GT5..

Still though F3 is a great all rounder, havingsolid gameplay/physics, lovely visuals & great multiplayer/community... lets hope GT5exceeds F3 in all those depts cause it would only be great news to racing games Fans..

Car models- GT5 Enviornments- Forza 3 Lighting- GT5racing1750

I would agree with this and also that Forza 3 has better sound. But Fuji is looking incredible in the recent CES footage of GT5 so the enviroment could change upon release. Also the fact that Forzas best looking tracks are fictional and we have yet to see GTs fictional tracks in HD, other then The Highspeed Ring and of course London looks great.

Both are games about the cars, and GT5's look better from the screenshots.