This is why I bought my Sony HDR 4K TV.. Hot damn
Enjoy
Do you have to have a 4k tv or monitor to view these files in their best state?
Sony 2016 XBR-43X800D ... The best under 50 inch. Its even better than the 2017 model and its cheap..
I don't have any HDR TV to truly experience the goodness of HDR :(
Does an IPS display get close? What's the deal there? I should research this more.
The HDR monitor simply shows the video correctly. Watching it on a standard display causes all of the gamma and color to be blown the bleep out. Its very vivid on an HDR TV but its not anything you haven't seen before.
I don't have any HDR TV to truly experience the goodness of HDR :(
You're missing out. HDR is a bigger deal than 4k.
I think both techs have been overstated.
I've generally heard that people notice a bigger difference going from Non-HDR to HDR of the same resolution than going from 1080p to 4k. There has to be some merit to that.
At this point though, the leaps in image quality we're making are a lot smaller than they were when we went from 480i to 1080p.
Do you have to have a 4k tv or monitor to view these files in their best state?
Sony 2016 XBR-43X800D ... The best under 50 inch. Its even better than the 2017 model and its cheap..
That's not even remotely true. The best TV under 50" wouldn't be a 43" first of all. And I wouldn't buy a 43" 4K TV unless you are sitting really close to it.
I've generally heard that people notice a bigger difference going from Non-HDR to HDR of the same resolution than going from 1080p to 4k. There has to be some merit to that.
At this point though, the leaps in image quality we're making are a lot smaller than they were when we went from 480i to 1080p.
It is more noticeable than the 4K upgrade without a doubt and that is mainly due to the increase in overall vibrance and clarity but its not something that will blow you off your feet as many proponents try to sell it as. Its great but its not "Holy motha of god" great.
That was a major jump. The newer jump are indeed much smaller.
800d was recognized as the best TV for gaming under 50 inch.. There are a ton of threads about it... There is no TV thats as good given the price + 10 bit + Wide color etc etc.... The 43 is noted for deeper blacks than the larger version due to VA rather than IPS. The 2017 is noted for less deeper blacks.... I sit 3 feet from it since its amazing as a PC monitor as well ...
Do you have to have a 4k tv or monitor to view these files in their best state?
Sony 2016 XBR-43X800D ... The best under 50 inch. Its even better than the 2017 model and its cheap..
That's not even remotely true. The best TV under 50" wouldn't be a 43" first of all. And I wouldn't buy a 43" 4K TV unless you are sitting really close to it.
That's not even remotely true. The best TV under 50" wouldn't be a 43" first of all. And I wouldn't buy a 43" 4K TV unless you are sitting really close to it.
The 43" got acclaim because it used VA, while the 49" used IPS. When doing HDR gaming it didn't get a ton of lag either like many other TVs did. For the price it's a damn good TV but it doesn't do HDR well. Though I guess it doesn't matter since no TV does until you get to more expensive/larger sets or OLED. HDR and other methods are still in their infancy too so it'll still be another year or two before it really takes off. Also it's PWM/flicker free, so it's really nice as a PC monitor. Only other option for that would be OLED. If you're looking for something under 50" (come on 49" is no different) then there's nothing better especially for gaming.
Watching HDR stuff on a non-HDR display will just make it dulled out and cold btw, not blown-out. Forza 7 footage still looks great on my 4k monitor, just dull.
If you have an HDR 4K TV, what's easiest way to watch this, using the TV's own browser, or through the Xbox One S ?
I think both techs have been overstated.
If anything, I believe HDR is understated.
4k is just an increase in resolution. As far as resolution increases goes, we're definitely seeing diminished returns past 1080P. 1080P Blu-Rays look stellar on my 65" 4k TV. In games, 4k does help clean up aliasing a bit and the sharpness helps, but it's pretty much what you would expect from a resolution jump.
So while I'd argue 1080P still holds up today, SDR looks pretty flat compared to HDR. While the quality of the experience is up to how the HDR mastering is done (similar to 4k), HDR is much more of a treat to watch than SDR. I'd rather watch something in 1080P HDR than 4k SDR.
Contrast is one of the most important things in IQ and HDR brings contrast into a whole new ballpark.
If you have an HDR 4K TV, what's easiest way to watch this, using the TV's own browser, or through the Xbox One S ?
I just copied both video files to a usb flash drive and plugged it to the TV. Also make sure HDR is enabled on your TV...some TVs require you to do that in the settings.
Can't wait to play it on my 65" OLED ;)
I have two LG OLED65E6Ps so I know what you mean :)
Holy shit two, that's awesome!!!
Mine is the "C"(curved screen model). I never used to care much for the curved models, but now I have one I love it.
Forza 7 on Xbox One X with HDR is gonna be pretty cool.
Can't wait to see what this looks like on my Samsung UN65JS9000/XboneX with an Elite in my hands. Gonna be a good holiday season this year!! I wish it was November already!!
I don't have any HDR TV to truly experience the goodness of HDR :(
You're missing out. HDR is a bigger deal than 4k.
I think both techs have been overstated.
I've generally heard that people notice a bigger difference going from Non-HDR to HDR of the same resolution than going from 1080p to 4k. There has to be some merit to that.
At this point though, the leaps in image quality we're making are a lot smaller than they were when we went from 480i to 1080p.
Don't believe it because 99.99999% of HDR TV's are 4K.
I thought The Last Night was going to look sick on a 4K TV with HDR, even if it's a pixel-art heavy indie game. I'm guessing the new Ori game is going to be an HDR visual feast as well.
Anyhow, was at the store the other day, saw one of those Samsung QLED, OMG, beautiful, can't wait for that standard to come down in price in a few years. I'll get me a decent 4K HDTV with HDR to hold me over until then. Other than gaming needs, I see no need for someone to get anything that beastly for the time being. Cable in my area is still highly compressed standard HD and the internet infrastructure isn't there for streaming options because of bandwidth caps. And I really don't feel like building up a physical disc movie collection anymore.
TV's have such high latency and low hz. I'm still waiting for a good 2k HDR ultrawide monitor that can handle 100+hz without weird sync restrictions.
Moving to that from 1080p 60hz would be, I think, a significant step. As an upgrade you'd have a bigger size monitor with wider field of view, despite that you'd have slightly more pixels per inch, more hz (I can notice 60 to 100) and HDR support. I think that would be enough to justify a new screen. But anything that gets close to those specs is ultra expensive.
@hitmanactual: Dam you.....i have a ks8000 65in....dam that oled is hot...
Ya it's pretty cool. I sit only about two and a half metres from it directly in front, and it kinda feels like it wraps around you...very immersive ;)
@ttboy: I bought a LG OLED not long ago. Incredible picture. It can't wait for true 4K gaming on Xbox One X!
$499 + vs titan xp + i7 7700 non k + ROC MB + ram ..etc $$$$
xbox x FTW
You forgot the mandatory XBL fees for online, and you forgot that fact many people simply upgrade their PC rather than buying everything from scratch every 4 years. Even then, $800 for a new pc isn't too far off from $700 (4 years of XB + XBL).
PC is the better product. $700 a mini-gen for 30 fps and only 2 True 4k games is non feasible. You're paying nearly just as much for far less.
Forza 7 and the XBoneX are going to justify our purchases, those of us that spent more money on a home theater than most people spend on a car. I haven't flipped on my launch XBone since maybe December lol, but I'm stoked for the X. Finally a console and game deserving of the Elite controller.
$499 + vs titan xp + i7 7700 non k + ROC MB + ram ..etc $$$$
xbox x FTW
You forgot the mandatory XBL fees for online, and you forgot that fact many people simply upgrade their PC rather than buying everything from scratch every 4 years. Even then, $800 for a new pc isn't too far off from $700 (4 years of XB + XBL).
PC is the better product. $700 a mini-gen for 30 fps and only 2 True 4k games is non feasible. You're paying nearly just as much for far less.
It's more than $800 for a new PC with GTX 1070.
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mXjmZ8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mXjmZ8/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($434.98 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix - Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Thermaltake - SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG - UH12NS40 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($42.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $898.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Assembly labor cost not included.
XBO/PS4 controller not included.
4K Blu-ray drive not included.
4K Blu-ray player software not included.
Starting from year 2013, Intel Ivybridge i3 is not cheap as Pentium G4560 Kabylake.
https://www.g2a.com/xbox-live-12-months-gold-subscription-card-gold-global.html
$43.42 for 12 month Xbox Live Gold.
Total cost: $672.68
$499 + vs titan xp + i7 7700 non k + ROC MB + ram ..etc $$$$
xbox x FTW
You forgot the mandatory XBL fees for online, and you forgot that fact many people simply upgrade their PC rather than buying everything from scratch every 4 years. Even then, $800 for a new pc isn't too far off from $700 (4 years of XB + XBL).
PC is the better product. $700 a mini-gen for 30 fps and only 2 True 4k games is non feasible. You're paying nearly just as much for far less.
It's more than $800 for a new PC with GTX 1070.
Total: $898.58
~$800 (by the time X1 comes out) vs ~$700 (XBL+XB).
Not bad. $100 for a far superior product. Sounds like an excellent deal.
Also I'm glad you won't even touch on the fact that people who simply upgrade laugh at both of these parties.
$499 + vs titan xp + i7 7700 non k + ROC MB + ram ..etc $$$$
xbox x FTW
You forgot the mandatory XBL fees for online, and you forgot that fact many people simply upgrade their PC rather than buying everything from scratch every 4 years. Even then, $800 for a new pc isn't too far off from $700 (4 years of XB + XBL).
PC is the better product. $700 a mini-gen for 30 fps and only 2 True 4k games is non feasible. You're paying nearly just as much for far less.
It's more than $800 for a new PC with GTX 1070.
Total: $898.58
~$800 (by the time X1 comes out) vs ~$700 (XBL+XB).
Not bad. $100 for a far superior product. Sounds like an excellent deal.
Also I'm glad you won't even touch on the fact that people who simply upgrade laugh at both of these parties.
Nope, PC has mining craze atm, hence slow price increase for PC GPUs.
https://www.g2a.com/xbox-live-12-months-gold-subscription-card-gold-global.html
$43.42 for 12 month Xbox Live Gold.
Total cost: $672.68 (X1X's $499 + 4 years x $43.42)
https://www.computercourage.com/it-support/residential-support/
Nope, PC has mining craze atm, hence slow price increase for PC GPUs.
https://www.g2a.com/xbox-live-12-months-gold-subscription-card-gold-global.html
$43.42 for 12 month Xbox Live Gold.
Total cost: $672.68 (X1X's $499 + 4 years x $43.42)
Exactly. I'd rather pay around 800 for a far superior product than around 700.
Then we have upgrading, which blows both out of the water for people who already own Rigs.
Nope, PC has mining craze atm, hence slow price increase for PC GPUs.
https://www.g2a.com/xbox-live-12-months-gold-subscription-card-gold-global.html
$43.42 for 12 month Xbox Live Gold.
Total cost: $672.68 (X1X's $499 + 4 years x $43.42)
Exactly. I'd rather pay around 800 for a far superior product than around 700.
Then we have upgrading, which blows both out of the water for people who already own Rigs.
It's more than $800 for a new PC with GTX 1070.
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mXjmZ8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mXjmZ8/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($434.98 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix - Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Thermaltake - SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG - UH12NS40 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($42.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $898.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Assembly labor cost not included.
XBO/PS4 controller not included.
4K Blu-ray drive not included.
4K Blu-ray player software not included.
https://www.computercourage.com/it-support/residential-support/
Starting from year 2013, Intel Ivybridge i3 is not cheap as Pentium G4560 Kabylake.
https://www.g2a.com/xbox-live-12-months-gold-subscription-card-gold-global.html
$43.42 for 12 month Xbox Live Gold.
Total cost: $672.68
I maintain free IT support my family and relatives, I would charge $$$$ outside that circle.
@ttboy: I bought a LG OLED not long ago. Incredible picture. It can't wait for true 4K gaming on Xbox One X!
I'd love the LG Wallpaper but I cannot justify the expense. I may build a gaming room just for the XBox X. I'm not sure what 65 inch to put in there yet. I already have 4 TVs so one more won't hurt :P......
Total: $898.58
Total cost: $672.68
Exactly, I'd rather pay around ~$800 than around ~$700 for the far superior product.
Not to mention, upgrading is a huge factor and better than both of the above.
When you can find a 1070/1080 for cheap let me know.
Other than that, your butthurt is showing.
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