The gens not over and the burnout 3 successor being made still hasn't launched yet.
Doesn't matter, it would not outsell Mario Kart.
Do not underestimate burnout lol
I know
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The gens not over and the burnout 3 successor being made still hasn't launched yet.
Doesn't matter, it would not outsell Mario Kart.
Do not underestimate burnout lol
I know
Oh shit that link contains comments from Greenberg, I hope you're ready for the wall of text incoming from the resident MS PR policeman to come in and start with his whole PR statements. To help you get through it just use this gif and you will be alright :P
It was a Nya marketing post, I don't even bother anymore as he discredits himself daily.
With you though, you find it's easier to make generalizations than to willfully acknowledge the current state of affairs.
Of course you would blindly follow his fanbot lead and ignore the lack of numbers in his "Pr Fluffer marketing link".
If someone loves racers, as you do, I would recommend the Xbone over the Wii U and PS4, BUT reading is fundamental. It's a shame the Aussie educational system failed you. I'm happy to know that racing in circles excites you, that's great...but it has nothing to do with my accurate discovery.
You know, you don't have to be rude, you can actually comment about the information presented instead of making ad hominem statements towards users.
That's what I did when I came into this thread, I didn't comment rudely against moronic users with low literacy scores, I just pointed out a huge discrepancy and misinformation found in this thread. Sorry that offends you, but I don't want to live in an imaginary world. Feel free to participate in covering up misinformation due to fanboyism though, I'm sure you think it's novel.
You can like Forza, a good game series, and still be honest you know. They are NOT binary options.
Great ownage there. Some people hate to stick to facts and ultimately the truth, but its refreshing to know there is still a few of us around here.
You must have missed this post, care to redact your statement?
Yeah, okay...
"Every title in our exclusive 2015 holiday games line-up – Halo 5: Guardians, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Motorsport 6 and Gears of War: Ultimate Edition – sold over 1 million units, and the number of Xbox One gamers who played Microsoft Studios-published titles more than doubled compared to 2014."
-Microsoft, January 4th, 2016
https://news.xbox.com/2016/01/04/greatest-games-extends-to-2016/
Nope, Ty was right all along, and you even proved it.
Yep, exactly.
Dudes don't get it!
:)
@misterpmedia: A couple of people who worked on the Burnout games came out with this game called "Dangerous Golf"......it's not really a golf game , you just destroy stuff with a golf ball, Burnout style. It's pretty cool......a full fledged Burnout game would be sweet though, they were fun
King Forza, what else is new?
I'm really hoping at E3 MS announces massive upgrade Forza Horizon 3 and it will launch with Scorpio next year. Shut up and take mah money. :P
@misterpmedia: A couple of people who worked on the Burnout games came out with this game called "Dangerous Golf"......it's not really a golf game , you just destroy stuff with a golf ball, Burnout style. It's pretty cool......a full fledged Burnout game would be sweet though, they were fun
that sounds pretty wacky lol
But my fellow internet forum dweller.....we're in luck!
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/burnout-spiritual-successor-teased-by-criterion-fo/1100-6431109/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/burnout-successor-possibility-ex-devs-announce-dangerous-golf-ps4-xbox-one-pc-1540201
MS lies and their bullshit.
When MS won't even release official the numbers of what these games actually sold, there is no way I'm going to believe numbers they pull out of their ass for marketing PR purposes.
Let's see the actual sales numbers MS and then you can go on to hype how fast something supposedly sold or stfu.
MS lies and their bullshit.
When MS won't even release official the numbers of what these games actually sold, there is no way I'm going to believe numbers they pull out of their ass for marketing PR purposes.
Let's see the actual sales numbers MS and then you can go on to hype how fast something supposedly sold or stfu.
The best part is, they didn't even claim that- just OP did.
The gens not over and the burnout 3 successor being made still hasn't launched yet.
Doesn't matter, it would not outsell Mario Kart.
Do not underestimate burnout lol
I know
Burnout was a fun game. I've never really been much of a racing fan, but I loved their take on it.
The gens not over and the burnout 3 successor being made still hasn't launched yet.
Doesn't matter, it would not outsell Mario Kart.
Do not underestimate burnout lol
I know
Burnout was a fun game. I've never really been much of a racing fan, but I loved their take on it.
Burnout Takedown might still be my favorite racer ever :-)
@i_p_daily: They are going based on the fact that FM6 didn't chart on NPD the month it came out.
Forza sales aren't really strong when you consider they've already released 3 Forza games this gen alone on Xbone. I'm willing to bet GT Sport alone will outsell all the released Forza games this gen combined easily. For a game lems love to hype its sales are pretty lackluster.
At least cows buy their hyped games. The last GT game, the weakest selling in the series, sold 4.7 million copies on the PS3 despite launching at a bad time (after PS4's launch) with zero marketing from Sony.
Thanks for your usual fanboy response. I just wanted to know the sales of Forza 6 to see if my fellow XB1 gamers are or are not buying the game, nothing more nothing less. None of the stuff you posted helps me, it's just all fanboy garbage, but thanks for trying I guess.
Total Units
North America: | 0.61m | 39.2% |
+ Europe: | 0.80m | 51.3% |
+ Japan: | 0.03m | 1.7% |
+ Rest of the World: | 0.12m | 7.8% |
= Global | 1.56m |
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/85161/forza-motorsport-6/
Total Units
North America: | 3.10m | 45.4% |
+ Europe: | 2.01m | 29.4% |
+ Japan: | 1.23m | 18.0% |
+ Rest of the World: | 0.49m | 7.1% |
= Global | 6.83m |
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71408/mario-kart-8/
It's also the best racing series of the gen in general.
It's not like it had a lot of competition
agree
@sts106mat:
Go ahead and "lol" all you want but VG isn't from a bias fanboy opinion. They have no stake an any fanboy wars and that is what i_p was asking for, sorry if you don't like the results.
You can go on to make up your own numbers if you like, however VG numbers seem to fall in line with what all other factors that can be confirmed at the moment. There is nothing you can present to counter other these other than not liking the results. Need I remind you that Forza 6 didn't even chart on NDP the month it released?
That is a FACT and something everyone who isn't a blind fanboy can logically draw a conclusion that Forza isn't breaking any barrier on sales. It's not my fault MS is too embarrassed to show the sales of any games on xbone or you'd have an argument.
The fact that FM6 even has 1.5M in sales and didn't even charting on NDP is a feat in that respect, be happy that it even managed that.
MS should just stop this *herp derp 10 million players* bullshit, and release concrete sales numbers already. Getting tired of this shit.
They didnt shy away from releasing sales numbers, when they were beating Sony last gen, so why stop now?
It was a Nya marketing post, I don't even bother anymore as he discredits himself daily.
With you though, you find it's easier to make generalizations than to willfully acknowledge the current state of affairs.
Of course you would blindly follow his fanbot lead and ignore the lack of numbers in his "Pr Fluffer marketing link".
If someone loves racers, as you do, I would recommend the Xbone over the Wii U and PS4, BUT reading is fundamental. It's a shame the Aussie educational system failed you. I'm happy to know that racing in circles excites you, that's great...but it has nothing to do with my accurate discovery.
You know, you don't have to be rude, you can actually comment about the information presented instead of making ad hominem statements towards users.
That's what I did when I came into this thread, I didn't comment rudely against moronic users with low literacy scores, I just pointed out a huge discrepancy and misinformation found in this thread. Sorry that offends you, but I don't want to live in an imaginary world. Feel free to participate in covering up misinformation due to fanboyism though, I'm sure you think it's novel.
You can like Forza, a good game series, and still be honest you know. They are NOT binary options.
Great ownage there. Some people hate to stick to facts and ultimately the truth, but its refreshing to know there is still a few of us around here.
You must have missed this post, care to redact your statement?
Yeah, okay...
"Every title in our exclusive 2015 holiday games line-up – Halo 5: Guardians, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Motorsport 6 and Gears of War: Ultimate Edition – sold over 1 million units, and the number of Xbox One gamers who played Microsoft Studios-published titles more than doubled compared to 2014."
-Microsoft, January 4th, 2016
https://news.xbox.com/2016/01/04/greatest-games-extends-to-2016/
Nope, Ty was right all along, and you even proved it.
Yep, exactly.
Dudes don't get it!
:)
Well luckily with your righteous gamer scores, you can speak freely and openly and most important without bias.
@sts106mat:
Go ahead and "lol" all you want but VG isn't from a bias fanboy opinion. They have no stake an any fanboy wars and that is what i_p was asking for, sorry if you don't like the results.
You can go on to make up your own numbers if you like, however VG numbers seem to fall in line with what all other factors that can be confirmed at the moment. There is nothing you can present to counter other these other than not liking the results. Need I remind you that Forza 6 didn't even chart on NDP the month it released?
That is a FACT and something everyone who isn't a blind fanboy can logically draw a conclusion that Forza isn't breaking any barrier on sales. It's not my fault MS is too embarrassed to show the sales of any games on xbone or you'd have an argument.
The fact that FM6 even has 1.5M in sales and didn't even charting on NDP is a feat in that respect, be happy that it even managed that.
Cows continue to go off the deep end one at a time. I love how they have these magical sales 8 balls. I wonder where they picked them up? REI? Dollar General? You guys crack us up.
It's ok man, we had one decent exclusive racer this gen on our PS4, DriveClub. Granted it was late, broken, bugged to ****, free version stalled for a year, then canceled, and studio closed up. While Xbox fans have had Forza 5, Forza 6 and Forza Horizon 2 with a new Forza coming out this fall. If I were a cow, I too would probably be having a hissy fit. Screw awaiting greatness.
It pays to be a manticore folks, especially with racing! Don't be a cow (or a lem) or a hater. Embrace. Cherish. Enjoy. Love. Gaming is here to stay.
I've played Forza and I don't any Forza games nor an X1. Are they using people like me in their statistics?
Regardless, good job to the Forza team. I feel like Forza fans are overhyping this considering there is very little to none alternatives.
After 3 X1 games and Apex on PC, I would hope it has the most users of racing games this gen. Great racing series, but in reality, it should be much higher with that many games released. GT3 had almost 15 million on PS2 alone and GT5 had almost 12 million on PS3 alone.
@Salt_The_Fries:
It says in the in the US according to NPD data in your link, not worldwide. It's not that there is a lot of competition so I would expect Forza to be up there, but accuracy is still vital. Intriguing they didn't release hard sales numbers though, just indicating players (free PC version, multiple accounts, free downloadable demos all count).
Forza is the best-selling racing franchise of this generation in the US according to NPD data.
source: xbox wire via videogamer.com
Your title doesn't indicate the region, making it seem Forza is simply the best selling franchise this gen, but it's not, it's the best selling franchise this gen in the US. The isolation to a very specific region by Xbox PR to just the United States changes the scope of your sentence completely. You don't live in the United States, you would think you would have noticed this correct information found at Xbox Wire and Videogamer.com.
It's interesting to note that despite people here in SW arguing Forza Horizon is a different franchise, in combining these US sales numbers we see that Xbox HQ feel differently.
Forza is a quality series, getting mid-80s on metacritic with recent annual releases, my commentary is about accuracy/literacy not Forza itself. If you are going to make a thread, and claim to be a some sort of video game journalist in Poland, it's vital to get the facts straight and read PR correctly instead of what we have here which is a huge discrepancy with your title and the actual information found at Xboxwire and Videogamer.com. Misinformation is a big no/no even when dealing with a big PR fluff piece like this one. Kudos though on you not getting confused between players and actual sales.
I do appreciate your subversiveness but you're making too big of a leap here, as well as what you said might contain a certain degree of naivete, fueled by self-righteousness and the desire to come across as the smartest guy here.
The absence of the "rest of the world" in this piece of news doesn't exactly mean that some other franchise might have sold better globally. It could, of course, though. Then again It might as well be the fact that WE DON'T KNOW THAT because - for example - who tracks global sales like NPD does? There is not a single organization which collectively analyzes all other countries combined in Europe, nor anywhere else - on a monthly basis. Individual countries? Yes. But otherwise no. So if there is no information about "the rest of the world", they probably based their statement on the information available and specifically narrowed it down to the US, because that was the only solid info that was available.
@Salt_The_Fries: You're still not acknowledging that your OP openly ignores the racing game series that has sold more than Forza this generation.
@Salt_The_Fries: You're still not acknowledging that your OP openly ignores the racing game series that has sold more than Forza this generation.
You're also tying a handheld into things that doesn't actually conform to a generation or dictate when generations begin or end, home console hardware does.
Simply with that in mind the 3DS sales could be thrown out the window entirely, also if you want to get extremely technical the 3DS is a 7th generation handheld as it launched pre 8th generation which kicked off with the Wii U a year and a half later.
@Salt_The_Fries: You're still not acknowledging that your OP openly ignores the racing game series that has sold more than Forza this generation.
You're also tying a handheld into things that doesn't actually conform to a generation or dictate when generations begin or end, home console hardware does.
Simply with that in mind the 3DS sales could be thrown out the window entirely, also if you want to get extremely technical the 3DS is a 7th generation handheld as it launched pre 8th generation which kicked off with the Wii U a year later.
'This undermines the point I am making, so it doesn't count.'
@Salt_The_Fries: You're still not acknowledging that your OP openly ignores the racing game series that has sold more than Forza this generation.
You're also tying a handheld into things that doesn't actually conform to a generation or dictate when generations begin or end, home console hardware does.
Simply with that in mind the 3DS sales could be thrown out the window entirely, also if you want to get extremely technical the 3DS is a 7th generation handheld as it launched pre 8th generation which kicked off with the Wii U a year later.
'This undermines the point I am making, so it doesn't count.'
See, the point of all of this is speaking of the best selling games OF this generation, not during this generation, big difference.
Since that is the case, Forza IS the highest selling racing franchise of this generation.
@Salt_The_Fries: You're still not acknowledging that your OP openly ignores the racing game series that has sold more than Forza this generation.
You're also tying a handheld into things that doesn't actually conform to a generation or dictate when generations begin or end, home console hardware does.
Simply with that in mind the 3DS sales could be thrown out the window entirely, also if you want to get extremely technical the 3DS is a 7th generation handheld as it launched pre 8th generation which kicked off with the Wii U a year later.
'This undermines the point I am making, so it doesn't count.'
See, the point of all of this is speaking of the best selling games OF this generation, not during this generation, big difference.
Since that is the case, Forza IS the highest selling racing franchise of this generation.
No it is not. The 3DS is a system released this generation. It is a current generation system. It can't be a system from the previous generation, because the DS was that.
You are literally arguing for semantics on a word by word basis using a foundational argument that's inaccurate to begin with. I would say this is the lowest you've ever been, but I remember you in the Quantum Break thread, so that would be incorrect too.
You're also tying a handheld into things that doesn't actually conform to a generation or dictate when generations begin or end, home console hardware does.
Simply with that in mind the 3DS sales could be thrown out the window entirely, also if you want to get extremely technical the 3DS is a 7th generation handheld as it launched pre 8th generation which kicked off with the Wii U a year later.
'This undermines the point I am making, so it doesn't count.'
See, the point of all of this is speaking of the best selling games OF this generation, not during this generation, big difference.
Since that is the case, Forza IS the highest selling racing franchise of this generation.
No it is not. The 3DS is a system released this generation. It is a current generation system. It can't be a system from the previous generation, because the DS was that.
You are literally arguing for semantics on a word by word basis using a foundational argument that's inaccurate to begin with. I would say this is the lowest you've ever been, but I remember you in the Quantum Break thread, so that would be incorrect too.
It released in March of 2011, that is the tail end of the 7th generation, the 8th generation did not kick off until November 18th 2012.
What you're saying is factually inaccurate and a paradox, it doesn't work, Mario Kart 7 is a 7th generation game for a 7th generation handheld.
You're also tying a handheld into things that doesn't actually conform to a generation or dictate when generations begin or end, home console hardware does.
Simply with that in mind the 3DS sales could be thrown out the window entirely, also if you want to get extremely technical the 3DS is a 7th generation handheld as it launched pre 8th generation which kicked off with the Wii U a year later.
'This undermines the point I am making, so it doesn't count.'
See, the point of all of this is speaking of the best selling games OF this generation, not during this generation, big difference.
Since that is the case, Forza IS the highest selling racing franchise of this generation.
No it is not. The 3DS is a system released this generation. It is a current generation system. It can't be a system from the previous generation, because the DS was that.
You are literally arguing for semantics on a word by word basis using a foundational argument that's inaccurate to begin with. I would say this is the lowest you've ever been, but I remember you in the Quantum Break thread, so that would be incorrect too.
It released in March of 2011, that is the tail end of the 7th generation, the 8th generation did not kick off until November 18th 2012.
What you're saying is factually inaccurate and a paradox, it doesn't work, Mario Kart 7 is a 7th generation game for a 7th generation handheld.
Lol, okay.
Forza may sell ok-ish but it's far from the best racing game, that title goes to pCARS and later in the year probably Assetto Corsa.
Forza is ok for its target audience of kids what with its dam rewind (sigh) feature and silly paint jobs etc etc but anyone else looking for a sim type game should look elsewhere.
PCARS smashes forza when it comes to the actual racing, there's really no comparison at all.
Forza may sell ok-ish but it's far from the best racing game, that title goes to pCARS and later in the year probably Assetto Corsa.
Forza is ok for its target audience of kids what with its dam rewind (sigh) feature and silly paint jobs etc etc but anyone else looking for a sim type game should look elsewhere.
PCARS smashes forza when it comes to the actual racing, there's really no comparison at all.
PorjectCARS has just been riddled with bugs. It got so bad, that they moved right into ProjectCARS 2 and pushed all their bug fixes to the new version. As far as straight up SIM racing, of course Asseto Corsa, ProjectCARS, iRacing, RacePro, and the like are going to be better. They lack the big career, they lack the car count, they lack the game polish, and they lack the features. But they are about pure racing SIM, and that is good.
Forza is far from a target audience of "kids". Forza is considered a simcade, offering simulation physics in the tire, draft and damage modeling, while offering arcade features like rewind. If you think having a livery editor is silly, I don't understand why. The livery editor is very popular and it allows you to personalize your cars.
Rewind is entirely optional. You don't have to press rewind when prompted. You can even disable the rewind feature in the options. If you don't like it, don't use it. Nobody is forcing you to.
Forza is a great racing game, and even sim racing websites like insidesimracing.tv praise it, GTplanet praises, PRN (pretendracecars), and virtualr.net all cover it as a simulation racing game that is hugely popular.
@i_p_daily: Forza 6 sold at least a million copies worldwide less than two months after release- considering that it took DriveClub more than 14 months to reach 2 million, after heavy discounting, and considering that racers are largely considered to be a dying genre, I would argue that Forza 6 is unequivocally a success inasmuch as a racer that isn't Mario Kart can be a success.
That, plus the fact that Microsoft keep making them has to indicate that the games are doing well.
Well thanks for attempting to give a real answer and not fanboy BS. I was thinking the same about the games still selling well enough for MS to keep putting money into them. I guess no one really knows for sure how much they have sold other than MS, but over a million seems to be a safe guess. Either way i'm just happy I get my Forza fix every year :)
PS...haven't played a Mario Kart since the 64 days, not serious enough of a racer for me, but was fun in small doses.
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