Fun vs Mature vs Groundbreaking

I'm playing Sleeping dogs right now and it's just fun. It's a good blend of a serious story and fun things to do. Isn't this what gaming is about? I like how in this game it's about "gameplay". The driving is "fun". It's almost oldschool in a way. I like how everything has a purpose. Even stunt jumps are set up to be used for evading the cops. Food has a purpose. Collectibles you can bring back and upgrade your fighting style. Fighting is excelling. You have a face meter which expands the more combos you pull off which also serves a purpose. The mission structure is excellent. It's not that over the top like Saints Row. Everything just seems to fit for the soul purpose of fun. But yet this game gets an 8. A few glitches here and there. A lack of online multiplayer most likely due to financial reasons doesn't mean nearly as much to me as a well crafted game that is actually fun to play.

Then you have GTA which is groundbreaking but yet you go on mission after mission aimlessly, get all this cash and can only buy food, weapons and clothes.. I guess that's groundbreaking. Sleeping Dogs if you look at it from a gameplay perspective is really an upgrade over GTA in every facet.

The last of us looks great but it's still a dressed up version of Uncharted with different atmosphere and zombies. Great enough but it's still a mode of interactive entertainment and I've already done that with Uncharted.

It's not that over the top like Saints Row where it loses all aspects of storytelling and suckng you into an atmospheric tale. Hong Kong looks great.

At least Sleeping Dogs is fun. It does this while also telling a mature tale. It doesn't do too much where it takes itself too seriously. It doesn't lose the fun. I wish developers focused more on fun ways to incorporate things in games instead of trying to ingross me in an alternate reality. This is where I disagree with the developer of Quantic Dream. Mature games are all well and good but please don't lose the fun.

Stop trying to sell me something.

Gaming is about fun, but fun can be very subjective. What may seem deadly boring to you, can be a great source of fun for me. I think what truly matters is what makes a game fun, as having a clear picture of that will help you greatly in anticipating which games you will/will not enjoy. "Fun" in itself is rather meaningless. I think Arma 2 is very fun, but there are many people out there who call it boring. And between me and them, there is no real argument to be made without getting more into detail.

I think people are too concerned with epicness and graphics kings and trying to sell me something is all. That's what sells. I think sleeping dogs is epic in its own way. It's just a really solid game that I can't complain about. It's just a good game.

Assassins Creed. Groundbreakng game. It takes itself too seriously and there are so many things in that game that annoy me though. It loses something. Same with GTA. Even games like Oblivion can be too much. Great games in their own right. I love those games and games like Uncharted and Heavy Rain. But there's something to be said about game design and structuring a game so each facet of it is enjoyable.

Sleeping Dogs isnt the end all be all, some of it is better than others, but everything you do in the game has a purpose and how it's structured is really good.

I think both major games out right now Darksiders 2 and Sleeping Dogs aren't necessarily games that are going to wow anyone but they both strike a good balance between telling a mature tale, having fun gameplay and lots of stuff to do that makes sense. Just both really solid games. I think I've enjoyed them as much as anything this gen for the simple fact there really is nothing wrong with them.

I am assuming you are asking which is more important and the only answer is fun. Does not matter how mature it is, scary it is, how good it looks, the tech behind it.....If you are not having fun playing it then it is not any good.

I got a gaming rig. At first I was really excited and loved the graphic advancements but after a while it started wearing thin. I would play on my 360 or PS3 or play at a friends house and I would not notice the graphic downgrades. Why? It wasn't important. Now I have a nice PC I only use for pictures, music, storing info, and it is hardly ever used to play games. So not only did I waste my money on it I have to watch my wife and friends shake their head every time they see it or I bring it up. Stupid purchase. I fell like an idiot for getting it.

I agree fun is the most important why I don't understand why a game like sleeping dogs gets an 8. It's basically like if you took all the good elements of batman arkaym city, test drive, jade empire, gta iv, assassins creed and yakuza and blended them all into one seamlessly. Wouldnt that make it a better game and more fun? It looks great. It sounds great. It might not be graphics king or best of anything but overall it's awesome. you just have to play it and delve a little deeper is all.

It even has some unchartedesgue chase scenes where they cut between cinematic and action. It might not be on par with that but the effect is the same.

It's open world. It has investigations and all sorts of paths you can take. It basically has every great aspect of gaming in it.

you can be a cop. You can be a gang member. You can be a kung fu badass.