Funny that THIS gen there is this outcry on SW about how sales shouldnt count

Despite having 3 Goty's and some of our greatest exclusives ever, last generation we Nintendo fans sucked it up and accepted that our console finished in third because of sales without protest.

Enter this generation. Where roles have reversed and Nintendo is now the sales king again and Sony is in the unfortunate position of being the lagger in terms of sales... N-E-V-E-R have I heard more crying about how sales shouldn't determine the winner of the console war. Never have I heard so many tired excuses and cliches like "you can't play sales" come up every time sales are mentioned.

Do you think the media, or anyone involved in the industry is going to say the 360 or PS3 won at the end of this gen because they had the most Goty's or AAA e's at the end of this gen? No. They're going to say the Wii won because it sold the most just like any other generation.

C'mon. Take it like men.

Sorry, but the rules do not change for the last place console just because the majority of people on this board happen to be fanboys of that console.

Sales + Quality should be looked at, not just one or the other. :)

They're just sad :(

I'm not saying sales shouldn't count, but I'm just so sick of hearing how sales = fun.

Well I believe the last few generations did count sales because they normally had the better gaming library (personally I thought Xbox's library was better after GTA went over to it). Not of which being the case for the Wiimoose_knuckler

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

Despite having 3 Goty's and some of our greatest exclusives ever, last generation we Nintendo fans sucked it up and accepted that our console finished in third because of sales without protest.

Enter this generation. Where roles have reversed and Nintendo is now the sales king again and Sony is in the unfortunate position of being the lagger in terms of sales... N-E-V-E-R have I heard more crying about how sales shouldn't determine the winner of the console war. Never have I heard so many tired excuses and cliches like "you can't play sales" come up every time sales are mentioned.

Do you think the media, or anyone involved in the industry is going to say the 360 or PS3 won at the end of this gen because they had the most Goty's or AAA e's at the end of this gen? No. They're going to say the Wii won because it sold the most just like any other generation.

C'mon. Take it like men.

Sorry, but the rules do not change for the last place console just because the majority of people on this board happen to be fanboys of that console.

TheNextOrder

It's funny how the roles are reversed last gen you had the games but not the sales this gen you got the sales but not the games.

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Well I believe the last few generations did count sales because they normally had the better gaming library (personally I thought Xbox's library was better after GTA went over to it). Not of which being the case for the WiiSolidTy

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Well I believe the last few generations did count sales because they normally had the better gaming library (personally I thought Xbox's library was better after GTA went over to it). Not of which being the case for the Wii_SWAG_

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

And the Winner is WII :D

lets party to celebrate

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

mgsfan1189

And the Winner is WII :D

lets party to celebrate

It's cause of posters like you that I think we should ban the sales arguement.

mgsfan1189, that's hilarious.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Well I believe the last few generations did count sales because they normally had the better gaming library (personally I thought Xbox's library was better after GTA went over to it). Not of which being the case for the Wii_SWAG_

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

Seriously, they rank IMO

Based off of games (counting GS/GR):
PC > 360 > PS3 > Wii

Based off of sales:
Wii > 360 > PSP

There is no clear cut winner this gen.

Despite having 3 Goty's and some of our greatest exclusives ever, last generation we Nintendo fans sucked it up and accepted that our console finished in third because of sales without protest.

Enter this generation. Where roles have reversed and Nintendo is now the sales king again and Sony is in the unfortunate position of being the lagger in terms of sales... N-E-V-E-R have I heard more crying about how sales shouldn't determine the winner of the console war. Never have I heard so many tired excuses and cliches like "you can't play sales" come up every time sales are mentioned.

Do you think the media, or anyone involved in the industry is going to say the 360 or PS3 won at the end of this gen because they had the most Goty's or AAA e's at the end of this gen? No. They're going to say the Wii won because it sold the most just like any other generation.

C'mon. Take it like men.

Sorry, but the rules do not change for the last place console just because the majority of people on this board happen to be fanboys of that console.

TheNextOrder

Sales AND reviews both are over-rated. Neither one add any value to a game.

As a gamer, I don't give a crap about sales. I can't have fun with sales figures like I can with great games, which is something the Wii has very few of. At least last gen the PS2 had the whole package, but this gen it seems that Nintendo's marketting allowed them to sell lots of the fadtastic console and its games... but that's all it seems to have achieved.

Sheep can have their bragging rights for sales, but they've got the least enjoyable console imo.

Sales + Quality should be looked at, not just one or the other. :)

SolidTy

people whos console is flopping in sales "says sales dont matter"

i promise u the second their system and games start selling they will come out of their rat holes.

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

Lionheart08

Seriously, they rank IMO

Based off of games (counting GS/GR):
PC > 360 > PS3 > Wii

Based off of sales:
Wii > 360 > PSP

There is no clear cut winner this gen.

why did you put psp? >_>

[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]

Despite having 3 Goty's and some of our greatest exclusives ever, last generation we Nintendo fans sucked it up and accepted that our console finished in third because of sales without protest.

Enter this generation. Where roles have reversed and Nintendo is now the sales king again and Sony is in the unfortunate position of being the lagger in terms of sales... N-E-V-E-R have I heard more crying about how sales shouldn't determine the winner of the console war. Never have I heard so many tired excuses and cliches like "you can't play sales" come up every time sales are mentioned.

Do you think the media, or anyone involved in the industry is going to say the 360 or PS3 won at the end of this gen because they had the most Goty's or AAA e's at the end of this gen? No. They're going to say the Wii won because it sold the most just like any other generation.

C'mon. Take it like men.

Sorry, but the rules do not change for the last place console just because the majority of people on this board happen to be fanboys of that console.

TheGreatOutdoor

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

Lionheart08

Seriously, they rank IMO

Based off of games (counting GS/GR):
PC > 360 > PS3 > Wii

Based off of sales:
Wii > 360 > PSP

There is no clear cut winner this gen.

Sales AND reviews both are over-rated. Neither one add any value to a game.

Bigboi500

Sales are what keep console makers int he console business, but the quality of the system is what it's going to remembered by.

So yes, sales matter but so does quality if not more.

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]and this gen guess who takes the place of the ps2 with personal taste aside, its easy to call a winner

Sonick54

Seriously, they rank IMO

Based off of games (counting GS/GR):
PC > 360 > PS3 > Wii

Based off of sales:
Wii > 360 > PSP

There is no clear cut winner this gen.

why did you put psp? >_>

While the typo is blatantly obvious I'll choose instead to go with a snarky, sarcastice response instead:

Clearly the PSP is superior to the PS3 in every shape and form. It should be Sony's primary hardware for this gen. ;)

but when you factor both sales and reviews, who wins?

_SWAG_

I'd say 360, for the consoles, but just between you and me, it's a lot more fun to watch people argue about it. :P

The Gamecube didn't come in last just because of sales. It also came in last in games.

TheGreatOutdoor

Gamecube was better than the Xbox. :P

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Seriously, they rank IMO

Based off of games (counting GS/GR):
PC > 360 > PS3 > Wii

Based off of sales:
Wii > 360 > PSP

There is no clear cut winner this gen.

Lionheart08

why did you put psp? >_>

While the typo is blatantly obvious I'll choose instead to go with a snarky, sarcastice response instead:

Clearly the PSP is superior to the PS3 in every shape and form. It should be Sony's primary hardware for this gen. ;)

^^^ fanboy alert lol

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Sales AND reviews both are over-rated. Neither one add any value to a game.

Giancar

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Sales AND reviews both are over-rated. Neither one add any value to a game.

Giancar

ofcourse u will say that since u only own the the SSF "System Sale Flopper"

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

The Gamecube didn't come in last just because of sales. It also came in last in games.

Lionheart08

Gamecube was better than the Xbox. :P

I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy

so then we should call wii play or 50 cent the best games ever made ;)

Yes, Nintendo is "Sales King" as you put it, but it's library is somewhat lackluster, so what are the sales doing for you as a gamer? Besides giving you bragging rights.-Traveller-

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

but when you factor both sales and reviews, who wins?

Lionheart08

I'd say 360, for the consoles, but just between you and me, it's a lot more fun to watch people argue about it. :P

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Seriously, they rank IMO

Based off of games (counting GS/GR):
PC > 360 > PS3 > Wii

Based off of sales:
Wii > 360 > PSP

There is no clear cut winner this gen.

Lionheart08

why did you put psp? >_>

While the typo is blatantly obvious I'll choose instead to go with a snarky, sarcastice response instead:

Clearly the PSP is superior to the PS3 in every shape and form. It should be Sony's primary hardware for this gen. ;)

aah, it all makes sense now :o

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.mgsfan1189

so then we should call wii play or 50 cent the best games ever made ;)

I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy

yea the most popular and guess who that was BUSH lol

yea this nation makes so many rational decisions ;)

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.mgsfan1189

yea the most popular and guess who that was BUSH lol

yea this nation makes so many rational decisions ;)

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Sales AND reviews both are over-rated. Neither one add any value to a game.

halo_wars86

ofcourse u will say that since u only own the the SSF "System Sale Flopper"

[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] reviews are wayyyyyyyyy more accurate than sles wayyyyyyyyyy moreGiancar

ofcourse u will say that since u only own the the SSF "System Sale Flopper"

man i also own a SSF and RROD and virus. so no worries

that's because the console with the most sales had always been considered the one with the best library of games until this gen.

fanboysand gamers are at a crossraods now and have to decide what they deem important: games or sales.

fanboys chose sales.

gamers chose games.