Ok, you keep the killer exclusive system sellers like Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Sports... I'll keep enjoying third party goodness and high definition exclusives. Not to knock the Wii, but at this point it's like saying the Backstreet Boys is a better band than Nirvana because the Backstreet Boys sold more. C'mon, we know which band was more capable.carljohnson3456
Another music analogy would be that the PS3 is more like a cover band that don't play their own original material. They want to be the original Xbox to the US with all the fps games.
I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy
Thats ridiculous. That would make Spider Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Shrek, ect the greatest movies of all time.
that's because the console with the most sales had always been considered the one with the best library of games until this gen.
fanboysand gamers are at a crossraods now and have to decide what they deem important: games or sales.
fanboys chose sales.
gamers chose games.
Heydanbud92
The Wii will be considered the winner due to sales by the media, the gaming industry and the rest of the world at large. If Gamespot chooses tremain in a delusional bubble that the Wii didn't win the console war because it makes them feel better as gamers, well that's just silly.
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.Samurai_Xavier
Thats ridiculous. That would make Spider Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Shrek, ect the greatest movies of all time.
that's because the console with the most sales had always been considered the one with the best library of games until this gen.
fanboysand gamers are at a crossraods now and have to decide what they deem important: games or sales.
fanboys chose sales.
gamers chose games.
TheNextOrder
The Wii will be considered the winner due to sales by the media, the gaming industry and the rest of the world at large. If Gamespot chooses tremain in a delusional bubble that the Wii didn't win the console war because it makes them feel better as gamers, well that's just silly. Considering that the Wii is a GAMES console, and that those who play it are GAMERS. How is it silly?
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] and yet not everyone is going to agree with you! Seriously.. [QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Ok, you keep the killer exclusive system sellers like Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Sports... I'll keep enjoying third party goodness and high definition exclusives. Not to knock the Wii, but at this point it's like saying the Backstreet Boys is a better band than Nirvana because the Backstreet Boys sold more. C'mon, we know which band was more capable. and yet not everyone is going to agree with you! Seriously.. But the facts are there. Nirvana wrote their own music. Played their own instruments. Much more musically talented than the Backstreet Boys. The same way the 360/PS3 have way better online services, capable of high definition graphics, can play movies, all kinds of media devices... I understand opinions vary, but there's no denying that the PS3 and 360 are more capable.
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.Samurai_Xavier
Thats ridiculous. That would make Spider Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Shrek, ect the greatest movies of all time.
No, it is Titanic! TDK holds the 2nd place (awesome movie, but not the best of all time though :P )
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Ok, you keep the killer exclusive system sellers like Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Sports... I'll keep enjoying third party goodness and high definition exclusives. Not to knock the Wii, but at this point it's like saying the Backstreet Boys is a better band than Nirvana because the Backstreet Boys sold more. C'mon, we know which band was more capable.Bigboi500
Another music analogy would be that the PS3 is more like a cover band that don't play their own original material. They want to be the original Xbox to the US with all the fps games. Two first party FPS make it an Xbox wanna-be???
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy
yea the most popular and guess who that was BUSH lol
yea this nation makes so many rational decisions ;)
Gore won the popular vote the first time around, could have avoided the whole Bush thing if Gore had some balls to stand up to Bush. Wuss.How would that change anything? It went to the supreme court..
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.Samurai_Xavier
Thats ridiculous. That would make Spider Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Shrek, ect the greatest movies of all time.
To some they probably are. And who are you to judge them? Lots of people worshipped the latest Batman movie and I thought it was an over-rated waste of movie film.
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy
Thats ridiculous. That would make Spider Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Shrek, ect the greatest movies of all time.
and to some they are. So what?? yeah for kids I guess :roll:
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Ok, you keep the killer exclusive system sellers like Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Sports... I'll keep enjoying third party goodness and high definition exclusives. Not to knock the Wii, but at this point it's like saying the Backstreet Boys is a better band than Nirvana because the Backstreet Boys sold more. C'mon, we know which band was more capable.carljohnson3456
Another music analogy would be that the PS3 is more like a cover band that don't play their own original material. They want to be the original Xbox to the US with all the fps games. Two first party FPS make it an Xbox wanna-be???Yes. How many would you need to think so? Ten? Fifty? lol
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another music analogy would be that the PS3 is more like a cover band that don't play their own original material. They want to be the original Xbox to the US with all the fps games.
Bigboi500
Two first party FPS make it an Xbox wanna-be???Yes. How many would you need to think so? Ten? Fifty? lol lol I wouldnt say that would warrant it an Xbox wanna be... lol. Or a cover band, lol.
that's because the console with the most sales had always been considered the one with the best library of games until this gen.
fanboysand gamers are at a crossraods now and have to decide what they deem important: games or sales.
fanboys chose sales.
gamers chose games.
TheNextOrder
The Wii will be considered the winner due to sales by the media, the gaming industry and the rest of the world at large. If Gamespot chooses tremain in a delusional bubble that the Wii didn't win the console war because it makes them feel better as gamers, well that's just silly.
1. Gamespot has never nor attempted to decide who wins the console wars.
2. SW doesn't represent the real world, most people know this, if you consider GS users infidels then maybe you shouldn't be here.
3. Gamers know better than non-gamers regarding what a good game is, the media can keep their own agendas, real gamers know whats best for themselves.
Thats ridiculous. That would make Spider Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Shrek, ect the greatest movies of all time.
Giancar
and to some they are. So what?? yeah for kids I guess :roll: So are you deciding what is good and what is bad? Wait let me guess you're letting GS do that for you?
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another music analogy would be that the PS3 is more like a cover band that don't play their own original material. They want to be the original Xbox to the US with all the fps games.
Bigboi500
Two first party FPS make it an Xbox wanna-be???Yes. How many would you need to think so? Ten? Fifty? lol look the next wave of ps3 exclusives...I only see one FPS game and a lot of adventure/action games
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Two first party FPS make it an Xbox wanna-be???carljohnson3456
Yes. How many would you need to think so? Ten? Fifty? lol lol I wouldnt say that would warrant it an Xbox wanna be... lol. Or a cover band, lol.Well I guess that is about as ridiculous as comparing the Wii to the Backstreet Boys band. ;)
that's because the console with the most sales had always been considered the one with the best library of games until this gen.
fanboysand gamers are at a crossraods now and have to decide what they deem important: games or sales.
fanboys chose sales.
gamers chose games.
-Traveller-
The Wii will be considered the winner due to sales by the media, the gaming industry and the rest of the world at large. If Gamespot chooses tremain in a delusional bubble that the Wii didn't win the console war because it makes them feel better as gamers, well that's just silly. Considering that the Wii is a GAMES console, and that those who play it are GAMERS. How is it silly?Because it's not even like this place represents gamers... this place is just a miniscule selection of internet fanboys. It would be ridiculous and delusional that in this tiny bubble the Wii would not be considered the winner, wheras the rest of the world would consider the Wii the winner. Kind of like people here are telling themselves that to make themselves feel better.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Yes. How many would you need to think so? Ten? Fifty? lol
Bigboi500
lol I wouldnt say that would warrant it an Xbox wanna be... lol. Or a cover band, lol.Well I guess that is about as ridiculous as comparing the Wii to the Backstreet Boys band. ;) I was only drawing the comparison that they sell more than consoles more capable. Like how the Backstreet Boys were less capable than a band like Nirvana.
yea the most popular and guess who that was BUSH lol
yea this nation makes so many rational decisions ;)
lettuceman44
Gore won the popular vote the first time around, could have avoided the whole Bush thing if Gore had some balls to stand up to Bush. Wuss.How would that change anything? It went to the supreme court.. pfffft Gore gave up, you don't honestly believe that Bush won do you??
[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] and to some they are. So what??VideoGameGuy
yeah for kids I guess :roll: So are you deciding what is good and what is bad? Wait let me guess you're letting GS do that for you? so in the first question you ask me if I am deciding for them? And in the second one you are guessing someone decides for me? :? yeah and those movies listed are BAD. I've watched all those and are simply put BAD if you compare with some Kubricks (to put just an example) movies... And GS doesn't decide for me. There are way better sites out there...and yes the general consensus states that some certain console doesn't deserve the sales it gets based in its software
[QUOTE="-Traveller-"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]The Wii will be considered the winner due to sales by the media, the gaming industry and the rest of the world at large. If Gamespot chooses tremain in a delusional bubble that the Wii didn't win the console war because it makes them feel better as gamers, well that's just silly.
TheNextOrder
Considering that the Wii is a GAMES console, and that those who play it are GAMERS. How is it silly?Because it's not even like this place represents gamers... this place is just a miniscule selection of internet fanboys. It would be ridiculous and delusional that in this tiny bubble the Wii would not be considered the winner, wheras the rest of the world would consider the Wii the winner. Kind of like people here are telling themselves that to make themselves feel better.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] lol I wouldnt say that would warrant it an Xbox wanna be... lol. Or a cover band, lol.carljohnson3456
Well I guess that is about as ridiculous as comparing the Wii to the Backstreet Boys band. ;) I was only drawing the comparison that they sell more than consoles more capable. Like how the Backstreet Boys were less capable than a band like Nirvana.The Wii is less capable power-wise that's true. But otherwise you are just talking about your opinions and not fact. Fact is Wii has plenty of good/great games that you can't get anywhere else. Most good games on PS3 are easily attainable on the 360.
And in my opinion Nirvana sounds like garbled gunk for the most part, so not very capable imo.
[QUOTE="-Traveller-"][QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]The Wii will be considered the winner due to sales by the media, the gaming industry and the rest of the world at large. If Gamespot chooses tremain in a delusional bubble that the Wii didn't win the console war because it makes them feel better as gamers, well that's just silly.
TheNextOrder
Considering that the Wii is a GAMES console, and that those who play it are GAMERS. How is it silly?Because it's not even like this place represents gamers... this place is just a miniscule selection of internet fanboys. It would be ridiculous and delusional that in this tiny bubble the Wii would not be considered the winner, wheras the rest of the world would consider the Wii the winner. Kind of like people here are telling themselves that to make themselves feel better. It's not necessarily just gamers here who believe it. You cannot know the opinion of every person out there, so there may be a number of people who disagree with your statement. Yes the Wii is in the lead with sales. Is it in the lead with the best games (not best selling games)? No, it really isn't.
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy
Thats ridiculous. That would make Spider Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Shrek, ect the greatest movies of all time.
and to some they are. So what??
It still doesnt change the fact that they are not. And please, dont make me argue why or why not these movies are better than Citizen Kane or The Godfather. It is common knowledge that they arent. Just like Wii Sports is not the greatest game of all time, despite being the best selling.
[QUOTE="Giancar"] yeah for kids I guess :roll:Giancar
So are you deciding what is good and what is bad? Wait let me guess you're letting GS do that for you? so in the first question you ask me if I am deciding for them? And in the second one you are guessing someone decides for me? :? yeah and those movies listed are BAD. I've watched all those and are simply put BAD if you compare with some Kubricks (to put just an example) movies... And GS doesn't decide for me. There are way better sites out there...and yes the general consensus states that some certain console doesn't deserve the sales it gets based in its software They aren't BAD, you don't like them. For what they are. mindless fun, they accomplish what they set out to do. If my movie collection only consisted of what "important" people thought were the best, ugh, life would be boring. You yourself admit that you've seen all those movie, why? Don't tell me you honestly thought you would enjoy them. No you just wanted some stupid fun. And Wii deserves every console its sold. The software says it does, with 30+ million sellers.
last gen sales were backed up with the more AAA games any other system got :? and last gen cows bragged more about the games (which SW people care more about) than salesGiancar
Are you kidding? The only thing any one talked about las gen was sales. Cows never made threads comparing the number of AAA games or GoTY's. They just kept harping on about their 100 million install base.
[QUOTE="-Traveller-"] Considering that the Wii is a GAMES console, and that those who play it are GAMERS. How is it silly?Heydanbud92
Because it's not even like this place represents gamers... this place is just a miniscule selection of internet fanboys. It would be ridiculous and delusional that in this tiny bubble the Wii would not be considered the winner, wheras the rest of the world would consider the Wii the winner. Kind of like people here are telling themselves that to make themselves feel better.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Well I guess that is about as ridiculous as comparing the Wii to the Backstreet Boys band. ;)
Bigboi500
I was only drawing the comparison that they sell more than consoles more capable. Like how the Backstreet Boys were less capable than a band like Nirvana.The Wii is less capable power-wise that's true. But otherwise you are just talking about your opinions and not fact. Fact is Wii has plenty of good/great games that you can't get anywhere else. Most good games on PS3 are easily attainable on the 360.
And in my opinion Nirvana sounds like garbled gunk for the most part, so not very capable imo.
Ok, forget the Backstreet/Nirvana comparison. And I never said good games on the PS3 arent easily attainable on the 360. As a matter of fact I laugh at people who think one game cant be done on the other.
[QUOTE="Giancar"]last gen sales were backed up with the more AAA games any other system got :? and last gen cows bragged more about the games (which SW people care more about) than salesBuryMe
Are you kidding? The only thing any one talked about las gen was sales. Cows never made threads comparing the number of AAA games or GoTY's. They just kept harping on about their 100 million install base. Exactly. They didn't talk about games because Gamecube was owning with the most console GOTY games last gen.
[QUOTE="Giancar"]last gen sales were backed up with the more AAA games any other system got :? and last gen cows bragged more about the games (which SW people care more about) than salesBuryMe
Are you kidding? The only thing any one talked about las gen was sales. Cows never made threads comparing the number of AAA games or GoTY's. They just kept harping on about their 100 million install base.
You're saying as if the 100 milion install base was there since the PS2 came out and cows bragged about it starting day one.
[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Because it's not even like this place represents gamers... this place is just a miniscule selection of internet fanboys. It would be ridiculous and delusional that in this tiny bubble the Wii would not be considered the winner, wheras the rest of the world would consider the Wii the winner. Kind of like people here are telling themselves that to make themselves feel better.
PSdual_wielder
you're right.
games don't matter, you win.
also, by your logic madworld is a horrible game.
This guy's right.
People on here are incapable of seeing things in other then a black white way. Guess what? sometimes good games don't sell and sometimes bad games sell very well. But that is in the eye of the gamer. I hate Resident Evil 5. Didn't stop it from selling did it? I love MadWorld, didn't help it sell did it?
[QUOTE="Giancar"]last gen sales were backed up with the more AAA games any other system got :? and last gen cows bragged more about the games (which SW people care more about) than salesPSdual_wielder
Are you kidding? The only thing any one talked about las gen was sales. Cows never made threads comparing the number of AAA games or GoTY's. They just kept harping on about their 100 million install base.
You're saying as if the 100 milion install base was there since the PS2 came out and cows bragged about it starting day one.
My point is cows loved to talk about sales and their huge lead in the market. People spent more time talking about sales than games last gen.
[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] So are you deciding what is good and what is bad? Wait let me guess you're letting GS do that for you?
VideoGameGuy
so in the first question you ask me if I am deciding for them? And in the second one you are guessing someone decides for me? :? yeah and those movies listed are BAD. I've watched all those and are simply put BAD if you compare with some Kubricks (to put just an example) movies... And GS doesn't decide for me. There are way better sites out there...and yes the general consensus states that some certain console doesn't deserve the sales it gets based in its software They aren't BAD, you don't like them. For what they are. mindless fun, they accomplish what they set out to do. If my movie collection only consisted of what "important" people thought were the best, ugh, life would be boring. You yourself admit that you've seen all those movie, why? Don't tell me you honestly thought you would enjoy them. No you just wanted some stupid fun. And Wii deserves every console its sold. The software says it does, with 30+ million sellers. some stupid fun, others because girlfriend...Anyways go to the cinema is cheap
but If I don't have the money and can only choose to watch either Spiderman 3 or 2001: A space Odessy, I'll go definately with the latter
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="Giancar"] so in the first question you ask me if I am deciding for them? And in the second one you are guessing someone decides for me? :? yeah and those movies listed are BAD. I've watched all those and are simply put BAD if you compare with some Kubricks (to put just an example) movies... And GS doesn't decide for me. There are way better sites out there...and yes the general consensus states that some certain console doesn't deserve the sales it gets based in its softwareGiancar
They aren't BAD, you don't like them. For what they are. mindless fun, they accomplish what they set out to do. If my movie collection only consisted of what "important" people thought were the best, ugh, life would be boring. You yourself admit that you've seen all those movie, why? Don't tell me you honestly thought you would enjoy them. No you just wanted some stupid fun. And Wii deserves every console its sold. The software says it does, with 30+ million sellers. some stupid fun, others because girlfriend...Anyways go to the cinema is cheap
but If I don't have the money and can only choose to watch either Spiderman 3 or 2001: A space Odessy, I'll go definately with the latter
[QUOTE="BuryMe"]Are you kidding? The only thing any one talked about las gen was sales. Cows never made threads comparing the number of AAA games or GoTY's. They just kept harping on about their 100 million install base.
BuryMe
You're saying as if the 100 milion install base was there since the PS2 came out and cows bragged about it starting day one.
My point is cows loved to talk about sales and their huge lead in the market. People spent more time talking about sales than games last gen.
There's always some of this and some of that. I for one spent most of time last gen PLAYING the games, which led to my ignorance to the trends here in SW for the past few years. :P
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