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When asked why Shattered Horizon is a PC exclusive:

Jussi Markkanen:Futuremark has always been very PC focused so it is only natural that our first game would be developed for the platform we know best. Making Shattered Horizon PC exclusive also meant that we wouldn't have to make any compromises. We could take the best of what of what the PC offers and make a game that offers the best experience on a PC. Everything, from the controls and the interface to the dedicated servers and our plans for free content expansions, has been designed forPCgamerswho love FPS games. The response to this on the forums has been very encouraging. We are reading lots of comments from people who are excited to see a game that has been developed purely for their hardware.


Basically, they're saying that if SH was made for consoles, they'd have to jack it up so bad that it would be unplayable. Eat that, consolites! :twisted:

Source: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,698996/Why-Shattered-Horizon-is-PC-exclusive-and-more-technical-details/Practice/

Here's a few screens and videos to rub it in :

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#2 MC3887
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This is it, halo is legendary "shot by spartan 117".

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#3 UnknownSniper65
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Shattered Horizons is a fun game...if it had a lot more variety it would be an instant classic as far as multiplayer goes.

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It was released as a "Work in progress." More stuff is coming including features suggested by the community.

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#5 topgunmv
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Nothing beyond the system requirements is really that impressive imo.

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#6 deactivated-5c009341336cd
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console games would look a million times better with 1gb ram, and ram is proble the reason this 1 is pc exclusive

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So all they basically say is there devs that dont know how to work on a console, as SH really isnt that impressive. Some nice lighting , physics and texture effects coupled with horrible character models and a black skybox I can name serveral console titles that look better.

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#8 nhh18
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Starhawk will probably look better than this game.

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So all they basically say is there devs that dont know how to work on a console, as SH really isnt that impressive. Some nice lighting , physics and texture effects coupled with horrible character models and a black skybox I can name serveral console titles that look better.

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I like the character models. They're pretty detailed and your suit and weapons are gradually damaged as you die and respawn.
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So all they basically say is there devs that dont know how to work on a console, as SH really isnt that impressive. Some nice lighting , physics and texture effects coupled with horrible character models and a black skybox I can name serveral console titles that look better.

TheSterls
Futuremark makes great benchmark software
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#11 painguy1
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console games would look a million times better with 1gb ram, and ram is proble the reason this 1 is pc exclusive

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lol^^^^ dude no im sorry, but no. Ram is not the issue. I have 2GB and my Ram usage totals 56% with the game, and 38% without. Ram is not the issue. Consoles are just weaklings.

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#12 mtmatt
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Nooooooooooooooooooo oo o. Futuremark speaks, now i must sell my consoles and buy a rig so i can play Alan Wake and The Last Gaurdian.

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#13 RawDeal_basic
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No thanks.

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#14 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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futuremarks is mainly a pc benchmark company so their are probably a little biased about computing power
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not seeing the problem.

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Watch this game be delayed over and over again until it falls into development hell, never to be seen again. It's happened before with games like this and it sure can happen again.
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Watch this game be delayed over and over again until it falls into development hell, never to be seen again. It's happened before with games like this and it sure can happen again.clubsammich91
Odd...I was just playing it an hour or so ago
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Watch this game be delayed over and over again until it falls into development hell, never to be seen again. It's happened before with games like this and it sure can happen again.UnknownSniper65
Odd...I was just playing it an hour or so ago

Wait, it's out? Why have I never heard of it until just now? Great job advertising guys.

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Watch this game be delayed over and over again until it falls into development hell, never to be seen again. It's happened before with games like this and it sure can happen again.clubsammich91
That's me playing in the video at the bottom. The game's been out for a while, now.
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When asked why Shattered Horizon is a PC exclusive:

Jussi Markkanen:Futuremark has always been very PC focused so it is only natural that our first game would be developed for the platform we know best. Making Shattered Horizon PC exclusive also meant that we wouldn't have to make any compromises. We could take the best of what of what the PC offers and make a game that offers the best experience on a PC. Everything, from the controls and the interface to the dedicated servers and our plans for free content expansions, has been designed forPCgamerswho love FPS games. The response to this on the forums has been very encouraging. We are reading lots of comments from people who are excited to see a game that has been developed purely for their hardware.


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Jussi Markkanen!? Wasn't he a backup goalie for the Edmonton Oilers a few years ago????

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I would buy it if wasn't dx10 exclusive:((I still love my XP!).

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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Watch this game be delayed over and over again until it falls into development hell, never to be seen again. It's happened before with games like this and it sure can happen again.clubsammich91

Odd...I was just playing it an hour or so ago

Wait, it's out? Why have I never heard of it until just now? Great job advertising guys.

If you played on PC then you would have known this.
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Watch this game be delayed over and over again until it falls into development hell, never to be seen again. It's happened before with games like this and it sure can happen again.clubsammich91

:lol:

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#24 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"] Odd...I was just playing it an hour or so agoJangoWuzHere

Wait, it's out? Why have I never heard of it until just now? Great job advertising guys.

If you played on PC then you would have known this.

Yeah. It's exclusive to Steam and that's where it was advertised.
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"] Wait, it's out? Why have I never heard of it until just now? Great job advertising guys.

windsquid9000

If you played on PC then you would have known this.

Yeah. It's exclusive to Steam and that's where it was advertised.

Damn, I haven't used Steam in ages. Why only advertise it there and not anywhere else so the game can get some exposure beyond the steam crowd?

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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"] Odd...I was just playing it an hour or so agoJangoWuzHere

Wait, it's out? Why have I never heard of it until just now? Great job advertising guys.

If you played on PC then you would have known this.

Not necessarily. My brother-in-law is a PC gamer, and he hadn't heard about it until I told him. Another heavy PC gamer I know hadn't heard about it until I sent him a guest pass. It's not heavily marketed.
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the problem with that is that SH sucks, no matter what it looks like. the real reason they probably didnt want to put it on consoles is because no one would buy it.
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the problem with that is that SH sucks, no matter what it looks like. the real reason they probably didnt want to put it on consoles is because no one would buy it.mtradr43
I think it's a great game. One of the few truly unique FPS' released this generation.
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#30 KalEl370
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Yea that awesome game got a 7.5 whoopeee! I think most people call SH weaksauce.

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"Futuremark calls consoles weaksauce" This is exactly the kind of elitist crap the most PC gamers would rather distance themselves from.
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Quick update for everybody here. Currently 46 servers scanned...3 are populated. Wow, I'm sure glad I bought this game :roll:

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#34 windsquid9000
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Yea that awesome game got a 7.5 whoopeee! I think most people call SH weaksauce.

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Dearth of content. More is coming. The gameplay and visuals were praised. [QUOTE="Marka1700"]"Futuremark calls consoles weaksauce" This is exactly the kind of elitist crap the most PC gamers would rather distance themselves from.

It was a joke.
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#35 UnknownSniper65
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Did anyone even read what the developer said? They wanted to make a PC game for PC gamers...thats it.

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Quick update for everybody here. Currently 46 servers scanned...3 are populated. Wow, I'm sure glad I bought this game :roll:

svetzenlether

Server population varies depending on the time of day and is expected to increase after the update adding new features and maps.

EDIT: Considering they didn't do too much advertising, the game isn't too popular at the moment. At least there's always populated servers.

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Then comes the day when, because they are not making money with PC exclusives, they come out and say the next game will be on consoles. Followed by the same quote only now used as a reason for gamers to hate them.

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The comes the day when, because they are not making moneywith PC exclusives, they come out and say the next game will be onconsoles. Followed by the same quote only now used as a reason for gamers to hate them.

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Futuremark isn't going to develop a game on consoles....Futuremark's main source of income is from benchmark software. This was a side project for them.
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[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

The comes the day when, because they are not making moneywith PC exclusives, they come out and say the next game will be onconsoles. Followed by the same quote only now used as a reason for gamers to hate them.

UnknownSniper65

Futuremark isn't going to develop a game on consoles....Futuremark's main source of income is from benchmark software. This was a side project for them.

How many PC developers have we heard/thought that about over last ten years that have then gone out and changed their tune?

Fankly, they released what is barely a game and calling it a work in progress is kind of lame. They released it early because they needed money and are getting praised becauset they will give you the rest of the game later? Is there more then one weapon yet?

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Then comes the day when, because they are not making money with PC exclusives, they come out and say the next game will be on consoles. Followed by the same quote only now used as a reason for gamers to hate them.

Kiyobear

The title was an exaggeration. His response wasn't meant to bash consoles, he was just saying the PC was the best place for it- which is true considering the controls and the technology behind it.

EDIT: Also, They're a PC benchmarking company. I don't think they have any intentions of moving to consoles.

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[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Then comes the day when, because they are not making money with PC exclusives, they come out and say the next game will be on consoles. Followed by the same quote only now used as a reason for gamers to hate them.

windsquid9000

The title was an exaggeration. His response wasn't meant to bash consoles, he was just saying the PC was the best place for it- which is true considering the controls and the technology behind it.

I agree, I'm just suggesting that they won't last with this model.

But come on, this is SW, the title was intended to bash consoles and even if it wasn't it did.

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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

The comes the day when, because they are not making moneywith PC exclusives, they come out and say the next game will be onconsoles. Followed by the same quote only now used as a reason for gamers to hate them.

Kiyobear

Futuremark isn't going to develop a game on consoles....Futuremark's main source of income is from benchmark software. This was a side project for them.

How many PC developers have we heard/thought that about over last ten years that have then gone out and changed their tune?

Fankly, they released what is barely a game and calling it a work in progress is kind of lame. They released it early because they needed money and are getting praised becauset they will give you the rest of the game later? Is there more then one weapon yet?

I was going to respond to this, but the post you quoted pretty much covers everything.

EDIT: The gun is muti-purpose. There's no need for more than one.

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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

The comes the day when, because they are not making moneywith PC exclusives, they come out and say the next game will be onconsoles. Followed by the same quote only now used as a reason for gamers to hate them.

Kiyobear

Futuremark isn't going to develop a game on consoles....Futuremark's main source of income is from benchmark software. This was a side project for them.

How many PC developers have we heard/thought that about over last ten years that have then gone out and changed their tune?

Fankly, they released what is barely a game and calling it a work in progress is kind of lame. They released it early because they needed money and are getting praised becauset they will give you the rest of the game later? Is there more then one weapon yet?

You're missing the point, the game was never meant to be an AAA title or sell over a million copies. It was just a small project made by a small dev team. Its pretty fun,looks great and only cost me eighteen dollars. The TC's topic title made the developer's comments look confrontational when they really weren't ( I don't even think the TC intended for people to take the title literally,but that's system wars)
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[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"] Futuremark isn't going to develop a game on consoles....Futuremark's main source of income is from benchmark software. This was a side project for them.UnknownSniper65

How many PC developers have we heard/thought that about over last ten years that have then gone out and changed their tune?

Fankly, they released what is barely a game and calling it a work in progress is kind of lame. They released it early because they needed money and are getting praised becauset they will give you the rest of the game later? Is there more then one weapon yet?

You're missing the point, the game was never meant to be an AAA title or sell over a million copies. It was just a small project made by a small dev team. Its pretty fun,looks great and only cost me eighteen dollars. The TC's topic title made the developer's comments look confrontational when they really weren't ( I don't even think the TC intended for people to take the title literally,but that's system wars)

All I'm saying is that I doubt they will last. Correct me if I'm wrong but the game has not found a very big following yet, not like other indie games that are making it. Torchlight has done well, I think.

I'm not defending consoles, or bashing them, I game on my PC but I think these guys just won't last. A high system req indie game that is a work in progress just won't make it; I don't know that for certain that's just my guess and prediction.

I didn't buy it for those reasons. I will still look into it's progress, and I admire their wish to do what they want and make the game they want, I just think they're doomed.

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Do you think it will run well with: 9800GT AMD Phenom II X3 720BE 2.8GHz 4GB RAM Windows 7 64-bit I can run Crysis on all high settings, 0AA with ~25 FPS.
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After reading up on this game it looks really interesting and I'm kinda sad it won't be coming to consoles. I don't really care a whole lot about the visuals, but that zero-g concept sounds really cool and I think they should take the plunge and release it on XBLA and PSN.
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#47 windsquid9000
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

How many PC developers have we heard/thought that about over last ten years that have then gone out and changed their tune?

Fankly, they released what is barely a game and calling it a work in progress is kind of lame. They released it early because they needed money and are getting praised becauset they will give you the rest of the game later? Is there more then one weapon yet?

Kiyobear

You're missing the point, the game was never meant to be an AAA title or sell over a million copies. It was just a small project made by a small dev team. Its pretty fun,looks great and only cost me eighteen dollars. The TC's topic title made the developer's comments look confrontational when they really weren't ( I don't even think the TC intended for people to take the title literally,but that's system wars)

All I'm saying is that I doubt they will last. Correct me if I'm wrong but the game has not found a very big following yet, not like other indie games that are making it. Torchlight has done well, I think.

I'm not defending consoles, or bashing them, I game on my PC but I think these guys just won't last. A high system req indie game that is a work in progress just won't make it; I don't know that for certain that's just my guess and prediction.

I didn't buy it for those reasons. I will still look into it's progress, and I admire their wish to do what they want and make the game they want, I just think they're doomed.

For the third time, they get their money from making PC benchmarks. I doubt they'll go out of business because they made an FPS and it wasn't a "Halo killer."

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#48 Kiyobear
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[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"] You're missing the point, the game was never meant to be an AAA title or sell over a million copies. It was just a small project made by a small dev team. Its pretty fun,looks great and only cost me eighteen dollars. The TC's topic title made the developer's comments look confrontational when they really weren't ( I don't even think the TC intended for people to take the title literally,but that's system wars)windsquid9000

All I'm saying is that I doubt they will last. Correct me if I'm wrong but the game has not found a very big following yet, not like other indie games that are making it. Torchlight has done well, I think.

I'm not defending consoles, or bashing them, I game on my PC but I think these guys just won't last. A high system req indie game that is a work in progress just won't make it; I don't know that for certain that's just my guess and prediction.

I didn't buy it for those reasons. I will still look into it's progress, and I admire their wish to do what they want and make the game they want, I just think they're doomed.

For the third time, they get their money from making PC benchmarks. I doubt they'll go out of business because they made an FPS and it wasn't a "Halo killer."

I never even implied it needed to be a Halo killer or something. The game was a cool idea that will never turn into anything special, that's what I'm saying. These guys won't go on making games like this IMO. WHo knows, maybe they will, but I doubt it.

A high req indie game is a bad idea, an idealistic one that I admire, but a bad one.

You're just kissing ass rather then trying to be critical of the situation at all.

Also, you come into SW make a thread title like that and then try and play dead, this is a pointless thread; a nice try but pointless.

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#49 windsquid9000
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All I'm saying is that I doubt they will last. Correct me if I'm wrong but the game has not found a very big following yet, not like other indie games that are making it. Torchlight has done well, I think.

I'm not defending consoles, or bashing them, I game on my PC but I think these guys just won't last. A high system req indie game that is a work in progress just won't make it; I don't know that for certain that's just my guess and prediction.

I didn't buy it for those reasons. I will still look into it's progress, and I admire their wish to do what they want and make the game they want, I just think they're doomed.

Kiyobear

For the third time, they get their money from making PC benchmarks. I doubt they'll go out of business because they made an FPS and it wasn't a "Halo killer."

I never even implied it needed to be a Halo killer or something. The game was a cool idea that will never turn into anything special, that's what I'm saying. These guys won't go on making games like this IMO. Who knows, maybe they will, but I doubt it.

Again, that was an exaggeration.

A high req indie game is a bad idea, an idealistic one that I admire, but a bad one.

You're just kissing *** rather then trying to be critical of the situation at all.

Just saying the game's sales don't mean much. It exists, I enjoy it, and that's all that matters.

Also, you come into SW make a thread title like that and then try and play dead, this is a pointless thread; a nice try but pointless.

Blame boredom. I had taken 119 screenshots, recorded a few videos, and found this article while browsing Steams SH forums and though I'd post them on System Wars.

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#50 killab2oo5
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Meh, I play games not tech demos. ^_____^