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#1 Animal-Mother
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http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-10898-Valve-Considering-Move-into-the-Hardware-Market.html


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Anyone fancy the idea of a SteamBox? Because there's an outside chance you might get one. Valve are prepared to move into the console business, says Gabe Newell, for the good of the industry.

"If we have to sell hardware we will," co-founder and MD Newell toldPenny Arcade. "We have no reason to believe we're any good at it; it's more we think that we need to continue to have innovation, and if the only way to get these kind of projects started is by us going and developing and selling the hardware directly then that's what we'll do."

Developing a console isn't Valve's priority, however. "It's definitely not the first thought that crosses our mind," said Newell. "We'd rather hardware people that are good at manufacturing and distributing hardware do that. We think it's important enough that if that's what we end up having to do, then that's what we end up having to do."

Should the Portal, Half-Life and Team Fortress creators move into the console business, they intend on introducing some of their game development nous to the mix. "We're thinking of trying to figure out how to do the equivalent of the [Team Fortress] incremental approach in software design and try to figure out how would you get something similar to that in the hardware space as well."

Newell continued, "We just need to figure out how we can start giving these to customers and iterating on the design quickly enough without having to go off and buy ten million of them and then find out we did something mildly stupid and then having to throw them all away and start over."

Newell also reckons that the current platform holders are doing it wrong, thanks to their outdated approaches. "Internally developed proprietary graphics solutions on the consoles, they're all gone - everything in the console space is coming from the PC now, and I think that we really need to see the same thing in terms of just general attitudes about platforms."

"I would push them very hard to stop thinking of themselves as being a platform for everything that already exists and start betting on the inventiveness and the benefits that you would get by embracing a more open approach to the internet and game delivery and game business models and things like that."

So there you have it. A Valve console, with Steam at its heart and Achievements already built in? Chuck in Half-Life 3 as an exclusive launch title and it might just be impossible to resist. What do you lot reckon?

Also what do you guys think.

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#2 SecretPolice
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Hmm, sounds very interesting but TBH, the saying when pigs fly comes to mind for some reason. :P

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#3 SaltyMeatballs
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They would fail.
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#4 GD1551
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They would fail.SaltyMeatballs

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

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#5 Animal-Mother
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They would fail.SaltyMeatballs
Well I would say steam is the heart of PC gaming. If they incorporated a solely DD system for PC gamers. They could call it the STEAM MACHINE
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#6 Heil68
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.GD1551

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

Well after 2009..
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.GD1551

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

They aren't really comparable though.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.Animal-Mother
Well I would say steam is the heart of PC gaming. If they incorporated a solely DD system for PC gamers. They could call it the STEAM MACHINE

PC gamers play on PC. What you're talking about is another console, like there aren't enough already.

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#9 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.edidili

Well I would say steam is the heart of PC gaming. If they incorporated a solely DD system for PC gamers. They could call it the STEAM MACHINE

PC gamers play on PC. What you're talking about is another console, like there aren't enough already.

I know. It's sort of a weird conundrum they got going if they were actually to do it.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.GD1551

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

Sure, after 10 years or so in the red.

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#11 nitekids2004
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3 consoles in a market is a bit mcuh already.

4 is overkill. They'll get steamrolled either way.

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#12 Slow_Show
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>Penny Arcade launches the PA Report on the basis it's about doing proper gaming journalism, interviews Gabe Newell.
>xbox360achievements.com takes Gabe's comments wildly out of context for a "could Valve make a console?" rumour.

This is why we can't have nice things.

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Gabe was talking about wearable computers and weird sh*t like that, ie the sort of thing that ordinary hardware manufacturers might not bring to market without someone as big as Valve being involved. They already have a Steam Box -- it's called, uh, a PC.

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#13 Animal-Mother
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>Penny Arcade launches the PA Report on the basis it's about doing proper gaming journalism, interviews Gabe Newell.
>xbox360achievements.com takes Gabe's comments wildly out of context for a "could Valve make a console?" rumour.

This is why we can't have nice things.

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Gabe was talking about wearable computers and weird sh*t like that, ie the sort of thing that ordinary hardware manufacturers might not bring to market without someone as big as Valve being involved. They already have a Steam Box -- it's called, uh, a PC.

Slow_Show

Wearable Pc's?

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Articles like this demonstrate what irritates me about journalism. quotes are taken out of context to mean whatever gets a good headline. They are not considering releasing hardware at all, they just made a statment about the current state of hardware, and made a throw away comment about making hardware if they have too. no offense TC.
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#15 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

>Penny Arcade launches the PA Report on the basis it's about doing proper gaming journalism, interviews Gabe Newell.
>xbox360achievements.com takes Gabe's comments wildly out of context for a "could Valve make a console?" rumour.

This is why we can't have nice things.

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Gabe was talking about wearable computers and weird sh*t like that, ie the sort of thing that ordinary hardware manufacturers might not bring to market without someone as big as Valve being involved. They already have a Steam Box -- it's called, uh, a PC.

Animal-Mother

Wearable Pc's?

Pure win :P

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#16 Animal-Mother
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Articles like this demonstrate what irritates me about journalism. quotes are taken out of context to mean whatever gets a good headline. They are not considering releasing hardware at all, they just made a statment about the current state of hardware, and made a throw away comment about making hardware if they have too. no offense TC. BibiMaghoo
None taken :P
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If it were actually true, I would love to take part in it. We need some REAL competition in the console market because the big 3 suck at their jobs. I have little doubt that Valve would walk all over them with an iterative type of console where you could upgrade it as needed, now that's a good idea if implemented properly.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.GD1551

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

Microsoft also has loads of money they could throw at the console, while I'm sure Valve has a lot of money, I don;t think they have THAT much money.

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#20 fueled-system
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They really do a good job at sucking up to their fanbase as though they are afraid of them
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#21 PurpleMan5000
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I hope this doesn't happen. It would probably ruin Valve for me.
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#22 dontshackzmii
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since all the games on steam are made for windows i dont see how they could make a steam box.

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#23 Eponique
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No PC-ization of the console industry please.
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No PC-ization of the console industry please.Eponique

to late its called the 360

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Probably won't fail. I wouldn't buy it. Too many consoles out in the market for me to go out buy another one.

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If it's got mouse and keyboard as well universal controller support + 1080p bring it on.

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No PC-ization of the console industry please.Eponique
It's inevitable.
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#28 AcidSoldner
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Articles like this demonstrate what irritates me about journalism. quotes are taken out of context to mean whatever gets a good headline. They are not considering releasing hardware at all, they just made a statment about the current state of hardware, and made a throw away comment about making hardware if they have too. no offense TC. BibiMaghoo
This. If people actually read the article they would know that Gabe said neither of those things. They were both taken way out of context.
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That would be awesome. A Steam integrated, console-like HTPC with gaming capabilities. Could be awesome.

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#30 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]Articles like this demonstrate what irritates me about journalism. quotes are taken out of context to mean whatever gets a good headline. They are not considering releasing hardware at all, they just made a statment about the current state of hardware, and made a throw away comment about making hardware if they have too. no offense TC. AcidSoldner
This. If people actually read the article they would know that Gabe said neither of those things. They were both taken way out of context.

Who said gabe said those. I certainly didn't.
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so they will drop out of the PC market to make a console ???
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#32 AcidSoldner
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]Articles like this demonstrate what irritates me about journalism. quotes are taken out of context to mean whatever gets a good headline. They are not considering releasing hardware at all, they just made a statment about the current state of hardware, and made a throw away comment about making hardware if they have too. no offense TC. Animal-Mother
This. If people actually read the article they would know that Gabe said neither of those things. They were both taken way out of context.

Who said gabe said those. I certainly didn't.

Your title.
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#33 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]This. If people actually read the article they would know that Gabe said neither of those things. They were both taken way out of context.AcidSoldner
Who said gabe said those. I certainly didn't.

Your title.

I simply asked the question. I never said valve said it.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Who said gabe said those. I certainly didn't.

Your title.

I simply asked the question. I never said valve said it.

"Gabe newell bashes consoles" is a statement, not a question.
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Wasn't Steam released on PS3? Didn't they also consider Steam on Wii U? :?
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#36 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="AcidSoldner"] Your title.AcidSoldner
I simply asked the question. I never said valve said it.

"Gabe newell bashes consoles" is a statement, not a question.

Gabe newell bashes consoles is definitely a statement. Me asking the question if valve is going to release a console is not.
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#37 Animal-Mother
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Wasn't Steam released on PS3? Didn't they also consider Steam on Wii U? :?nintendoboy16
it's steam works.
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Could they support a console?

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#39 edidili
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No PC-ization of the console industry please.Eponique

Isn't it a bit too late considering the best selling game for consoles is a multiplayer shooter or the huge popularity of the wrpgs?

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Wasn't Steam released on PS3? Didn't they also consider Steam on Wii U? :?Animal-Mother
it's steam works.

Still, they made stuff for consoles didn't they? This seems a bit...
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Sounds like a really bad idea.

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.JLF1MarkII

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

Sure, after 10 years or so in the red.

If by ten years you mean 4 because of the original Xbox. It didn't take long at all for them to start making money off of the 360. Most businesses lose money the first few years when they enter into a new market.
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steambox = pc
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Hmm, sounds very interesting but TBH, the saying when pigs fly comes to mind for some reason. :P

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well then lets stick gabe in a plane ASAP
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I would support them if they did this

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#46 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.Heil68

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

Well after 2009..

Still aren't failing lol.

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#47 metroid2004
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I could totally imagine it now :P

Valve Steam Engine

Would be crazy though :D

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#48 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]They would fail.DarkGamer007

People told MS that.. look how that turned out haha.

Microsoft also has loads of money they could throw at the console, while I'm sure Valve has a lot of money, I don;t think they have THAT much money.

Valve is one of the most profitable company per employee, yes this includes apple, google, microsoft etc. with an estimated worth of 2-4 billion. Funny part is that steam keeps gaining more net and gross profit every year with no signs of really slowing down.

Give it a few more years like this and they could very well be a competitor.

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#49 meetroid8
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If I wanted to game on PC, I would. Consoles should try to do something to differentiate themselves, not just emulate the PC experience.
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#50 nameless12345
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Is that any indication towards Half-Life 3 and next-gen visuals?

They should team up with AMD and make some "Valve certified" affordable gaming PCs imo.