Gabe Newell: Valve's Steam Machines Outperform Consoles at Same Price Point

Too bad PC only gets awful ports and iPhone games, that additional power won't be used well.

Show me a $349.99 steam machine that outperforms the PS4.

The Alienware Alpha I3 version can be had for as little as $400 on sale on amazon which is a FULLY functioning computer with Windows 8/10 able to not only play the past 15+ years of pc games with ease.. But out performs the PS4 in modern games, free and superior online services to boot with systems like Steam..

$400 is still $50 more expensive than the PS4/XB1. Gabe said at the same price a Steam machine can outperform current gen consoles, so I want to see a $349.99 Steam machine that can do that.

$400 is still $50 more expensive than the PS4/XB1. Gabe said at the same price a Steam machine can outperform current gen consoles, so I want to see a $349.99 Steam machine that can do that.

Chances are he said that before the PS4 price drop.

Your splitting hairs.. It is a fully operational computer that is not only better than the PS4 performance wise but backwards compatible with the entire PC library.. Furthermore if you wish to enjoy the PS4's multiplayer you have to pay a monthly fee, one that will surpass within a years time that $50 won't make a difference.. So it not only runs games better, has a larger library, is completely backwards compatible with 15 years+ of pc games, has a superior FREE multiplayer, but is a actual functioning computer giving you all the benefits you need to use one outside of gaming and the paltry insignificant amount of media tools the PS4 can do..

In less your looking for some specific exclusive game, the Alpha is superior to the PS4 in every way possible..

You can't even argue about local multiplayer because A) Consoles more and more often are cutting them out completely (sadly) and B) We are seeing newer games actually releasing for the pc game with LOCAL multiplayer (like divinity original sin enhanced edition).

Furthermore the developers and publishers don't have you by the balls.. You can decide how you want to play your games.. Not sure how any one ANY ONE would be against steam machines.. It is putting direct competition on console makers to stop locking down their hardware.. Being forced to play at a certain fps, graphical settings, control scheme, mods is absolute horseshit now and hopefully these things in next gen are not going to be locked down by the developer deciding how you want to play the product you bought.

Hopefully steam machines mark the death of the closed system console.. Because the steam machine has basically illustrated quite clearly that any advantage the console had over pc in accessibility and portability, price vs performance, has evaporated in this age of tech... Which is a good thing for most people.

Your splitting hairs.. It is a fully operational computer that is not only better than the PS4 performance wise but backwards compatible with the entire PC library.. Furthermore if you wish to enjoy the PS4's multiplayer you have to pay a monthly fee, one that will surpass within a years time that $50 won't make a difference.. So it not only runs games better, has a larger library, is completely backwards compatible with 15 years+ of pc games, has a superior FREE multiplayer, but is a actual functioning computer giving you all the benefits you need to use one outside of gaming and the paltry insignificant amount of media tools the PS4 can do..

In less your looking for some specific exclusive game, the Alpha is superior to the PS4 in every way possible..

You can't even argue about local multiplayer because A) Consoles more and more often are cutting them out completely (sadly) and B) We are seeing newer games actually releasing for the pc game with LOCAL multiplayer (like divinity original sin enhanced edition).

Furthermore the developers and publishers don't have you by the balls.. You can decide how you want to play your games.. Not sure how any one ANY ONE would be against steam machines.. It is putting direct competition on console makers to stop locking down their hardware.. Being forced to play at a certain fps, graphical settings, control scheme, mods is absolute horseshit now and hopefully these things in next gen are not going to be locked down by the developer deciding how you want to play the product you bought.

Hopefully steam machines mark the death of the closed system console.. Because the steam machine has basically illustrated quite clearly that any advantage the console had over pc in accessibility and portability, price vs performance, has evaporated in this age of tech... Which is a good thing for most people.

I lol'd at your post because in any shape or form, there is no way that the Steam Machine will ever beat consoles! These are Entry-level PC gaming machines with limited games, yet the fatass is marketing against a big red ocean of consoles. There is no way in hell on what will convince others to make the switch. The Steam Machine isn't innovative or a break-through w/console gaming, it's just a low-end PC machine that is disguised as a console.

@FireEmblem_Man: i see.. but you can get windows for 15-30$ i guess?

Well, I guess that completely destroys the purpose of the Steam Machine. It's either a high end home console machine or an entry-level PC.

how long will the $350 steam machines be able to run the latest games?

@Juub1990: something is wrong with my PC. I get 70+ ping on every BF4 server and this forum is screwed up. This started when I updated my GPU drivers bc Farcry 4 was stuttering all of a sudden for no reason.

No I don't have a shit ton of viruses from shady porn sites.

Then when I tried to roll back to previous drivers Win 10 auto installs drivers and then the older GPU driver days "not compatible". I then turned off auto install drivers in Win 10...and it still did it....again when I even disconnected from the wifi.

Now I'm stuck with drivers that seem to be wonky.

Tell me again how consoles have nothing over PC.

Bc my PS4 has worked perfectly since day one.

Love PC gaming, but it can be a pain in the ass at times.

@FireEmblem_Man: The alienware he is talking about actually comes with windows and has a larger game library then most the modern consoles combined. All first age steam machines were released as other products that used windows, as issues happend and deadlines were changed etc... They sold them off anyway under other names and with a windows OS with a gaming UI overlay.