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#1 mariokart64fan
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ok i just got done reading the game informer article

playstation 3 leads by a small margin over wii with 57 the wii has 52 ,plus the 3 upcoming

the 360 how ever, with mass effect 3 multiplalt,

has a mear 36 dispite being on the market 1 yr longer ,

this is pretty upsetting , id bet if we only counted 1 halo game 1 gears game 1 forza 1 pgr 1 pd 1 banjo and 1 kameo , thered be alot less

this is upsetting news cause after all these years fanboys have said 360 had more promising games then ps3 or wii

but it turns out the oposite why because we all know first party can do wonders more then any 3rd party could on the console this is seen with wii alot of times and ps3,

sony and nintendo are well known for their first party games and gis opinion is that wii and ps3 have definatelly delivered or nintendo and sony rather has delivered some of the best games this gen

but there is one thing i dont understand is where they get off saying developers aint making money on wii or ps3,

when its obviously a different story , it takes less money to make a wii game some wii games have actually made more on wii shaun white

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq8gZqh44HI&feature=related

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#4 bobcheeseball
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Is this really shocking? It's still a better console than the Wii
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#5 mariokart64fan
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i saw that the other day i thin kyou posted that

at the one who said 360 still better then a wii thats an opinion, ,, i respect that but facts will always out wiegh an opinion and the fact stands 360 only has 36 exclusives , and a smart person would go with one with more exclusives at this late in the gen ,

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#6 WilliamRLBaker
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Isn't game informer the magazine that said the 360 was at 54% failure rate based upon an internet survey of 3000 people and conversely also said the ps3 had a 11% failure rate?

But yes least of all are we talking about first party exclusives or exclusives? because last I checked the 360 had quite a few exclusives I don't believe any lemming has said but we have more 1st party exclusives...but hey lets change the rules again before it was exclusives now it has to be 1st party exclusives.

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#7 2Chalupas
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The gap is going to just keep growing too. I'm sure MS has some games up their sleeve, but Sony is killing them this year.

That being said plenty of 3rd party multi-plats make more sales/money on 360 than PS3. 3rd party games often don't sell worth a crap on Wii and Wii has all but been abandoned by a few developers. That is an entirely different discussion than the volume and quality of 1st party exclusives. BTW Nintendo makes absurd amounts of money on their 1st party exclusives, way more than MS or Sony. But 3rd parties have been known to not do well at all on Wii. There are plenty of exeptions I'm sure, but the norm has been for 3rd parties to either struggle with sales on Wii, or put in minimal effort with the games they develop for it (i.e. to take less risk).

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#8 WilliamRLBaker
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i saw that the other day i thin kyou posted that

at the one who said 360 still better then a wii thats an opinion, ,, i respect that but facts will always out wiegh an opinion and the fact stands 360 only has 36 exclusives , and a smart person would go with one with more exclusives at this late in the gen ,

mariokart64fan

could you do us a favor and stop saying only has 36 exclusives when you mean to say only has 36 1st party exclusives?

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#9 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Sony and nintendo have great first party and always give us the best exclusives that's why i prefer wii/ps3 exclusives over 360 ones.TheGuardian03
It is also the main reason I purchase Nintendo and Sony consoles First Party exclusives.

If they get good 3rd Party games that is just a nice bonus.

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#10 Demonjoe93
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Just read that issue yesterday. Doesn't surprise me.

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#11 WilliamRLBaker
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before the TC or anyone else can continue to say exclusives instead of 1st party exclusives ill post this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

There are currently 798 (exclusive: 111; console exclusive: 75; multiplatform: 611) games on this list.

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#12 finalstar2007
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Xbox 360 has no games!!

:oops:

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#13 Riverwolf007
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meh, even though i am going to state a terrible reason why idc since more is always better i'll do it anyway.

when the majority of exclusives are a pile of horrid J-dev that i don't care about this issue carrys very little sting.

mostly people throw this stuff up in lem faces and i'm sitting there saying to myself, "oh noes i don't get some lolli fetish jrpgs oh noooooes!"

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#14 SwagSurf
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Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

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#15 finalstar2007
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Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

SwagSurf

I havent seen a lemming in so long now, probably they will show up again in November when their first exclusive release lol

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#16 SwagSurf
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[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

finalstar2007

I havent seen a lemming in so logn now, probably they will show up again in November when their first exclusive release lol

Well we have one in this thread! :P

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#17 campzor
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it is true.. the 360 first party list is pretty bad... its still a better console than the wii though thanks to the multiplats
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#18 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

finalstar2007

I havent seen a lemming in so long now, probably they will show up again in November when their first exclusive release lol

There are 360 exclusives coming out before November. :roll:

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#19 Bigboi500
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Is this really shocking? It's still a better console than the Wiibobcheeseball
Tech-wise it is, but my game library says differently.

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#20 iwasgood2u
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq8gZqh44HI&feature=related

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man i died laughing watching it.
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#21 TheKing012
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this is a known fact (it's also last in first party studios). :?

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#22 TheKing012
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Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

SwagSurf

tell me! :P

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#23 TheEroica  Moderator
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Is this really shocking? It's still a better console than the Wiibobcheeseball
All it tells me is that microsoft realized before anyone else that the reliance of spending money to lock down an ezclusive pales in comparrison to the profit there is to be made through utilizing the timed exclusive the console exclusive. It just shows me that microsoft recognized that the word exclusove only matters in techy inner circles and forums of whining children and to the rest of the world that buys their console, offering many first party exclusives mixed woth timed and console exclusives is the new structure of maximizng profits and selling consoles... i mean what are they selling 360s at this generation compared to last? 200 % where sony woth all its exclusives lost roughly 50% of its market share and has been an anchor of profitability.
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#24 Scoob64
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Xbox 360 has no games!!

:oops:

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ur funny

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#25 tenaka2
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before the TC or anyone else can continue to say exclusives instead of 1st party exclusives ill post this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

There are currently 798 (exclusive: 111; console exclusive: 75; multiplatform: 611) games on this list.

WilliamRLBaker

The term 'Console Exclusive' is meaningless, that was established months ago.

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#26 reynal1287
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inb4 halo is better than all the wii and ps3 exclusives.

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#28 John_Read
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

before the TC or anyone else can continue to say exclusives instead of 1st party exclusives ill post this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

There are currently 798 (exclusive: 111; console exclusive: 75; multiplatform: 611) games on this list.

tenaka2

The term 'Console Exclusive' is meaningless, that was established months ago.

then why cows makes console graphics king thread ?
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#29 TheKing012
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inb4 halo is better than all the wii and ps3 exclusives.

reynal1287

you can only hold the Lems back for so long. :P

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#30 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="reynal1287"]

inb4 halo is better than all the wii and ps3 exclusives.

TheKing012

you can only hold the Lems back for so long. :P

No one even mentioned it, jeez.

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#31 SecretPolice
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First part smurf party, pfft doesn't matter - the fact is 360 actually has More exclusives than the PS3. :o

Sheesh, just because MS is a more savvy company and owns only a few 1st party dev's and rather contract out other devs to do 360 exclusives shouldn't be held against them. :P

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#32 TheKing012
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First part smurf party, pfft doesn't matter - the fact is 360 actually has More exclusives than the PS3. :o

Sheesh, just because MS is a more savvy company and owns only a few 1st party dev's and rather contract out other devs to do 360 exclusives shouldn't be held against them. :P

SecretPolice

on the contary, the PS3 has been leading for awhile. ;)

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28438169/ps3-exclusives-vs.-xbox-360-exclusives-hint-ps3-wins.-updated-for-2011

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#33 ianuilliam
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i saw that the other day i thin kyou posted that

at the one who said 360 still better then a wii thats an opinion, ,, i respect that but facts will always out wiegh an opinion and the fact stands 360 only has 36 exclusives , and a smart person would go with one with more exclusives at this late in the gen ,

mariokart64fan

That's true to an extent. I mean, between the 360 and PS3, when they share most of the multiplats, then yes, exclusives are the defining element. But between the 360 and the Wii? Wii may have a lot of exclusive games, but the problem with it is it misses out on almost ALL the multiplats that the other consoles get. And a lot of those multiplats are better than many of the exclusives. I'll take Fallout, Borderlands, Red Dead, Final Fantasy, Elder Scrolls, etc over Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Wii-whatever games.

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#34 John_Read
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

First part smurf party, pfft doesn't matter - the fact is 360 actually has More exclusives than the PS3. :o

Sheesh, just because MS is a more savvy company and owns only a few 1st party dev's and rather contract out other devs to do 360 exclusives shouldn't be held against them. :P

TheKing012

on the contary, the PS3 has been leading for awhile. ;)

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28438169/ps3-exclusives-vs.-xbox-360-exclusives-hint-ps3-wins.-updated-for-2011

on the contary, there are many multiplat that are not on PS3 :P

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#35 tenaka2
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Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

SwagSurf

Is he the one with the Banjo avatar?

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#36 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

First part smurf party, pfft doesn't matter - the fact is 360 actually has More exclusives than the PS3. :o

Sheesh, just because MS is a more savvy company and owns only a few 1st party dev's and rather contract out other devs to do 360 exclusives shouldn't be held against them. :P

TheKing012

on the contary, the PS3 has been leading for awhile. ;)

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28438169/ps3-exclusives-vs.-xbox-360-exclusives-hint-ps3-wins.-updated-for-2011

Oh to contrary, as I stated, the 360 has More exclusives when..... "all" scores are counted - you must learn to read the fine print on that GS spreadsheet there pahtnah. :P

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#37 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

before the TC or anyone else can continue to say exclusives instead of 1st party exclusives ill post this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

There are currently 798 (exclusive: 111; console exclusive: 75; multiplatform: 611) games on this list.

John_Read

The term 'Console Exclusive' is meaningless, that was established months ago.

then why cows makes console graphics king thread ?

Because Lemmings invented the term to try to claim ownage over Cows back when Gears was supposed to be the best looking console game (but obviously couldn't beat Crysis). Then along came PS3 exclusives that looked better. It's the same reason cows make "360 has no games" threads: because they had to listen to lemmings say it back at the beginning of the gen. Turn-around is fair play.

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#38 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

tenaka2

Is he the one with the Banjo avatar?

You mean Banjo sig. And no, he wasn't talking about him.

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#39 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

waltefmoney

Is he the one with the Banjo avatar?

You mean Banjo sig.

Huh, ya best not be talkin bout the SP. :evil:

:P

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#40 Sir_Graham
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Yeah Gears of War 3 and Forza 4 are the only exclusives of any kind I can think of for the 360 this year. Of course these two games are two of the safest bets for AAA ratings out of upcoming games so it's not all bad.
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#41 Renzokucant
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Lol I always see the same person swooping in to defend the 360 at a moments notice, Haha
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#42 Nonstop-Madness
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MS only has like half a dozen first party studios while Sony has well over a dozen first party studios.
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#43 xXDrPainXx
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Is this really newsworthy? We all know this by now. Sadly, 1 lemming here (we all know who lol) can't stand it.

waltefmoney

Is he the one with the Banjo avatar?

You mean Banjo sig. And no, he wasn't talking about him.

I think he is talking about the one guy that pretty much posted back to back to back 3 times with a small amount of damage control and has RLB in the username haha.
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#44 TheMoreYouOwn
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Kinda funny the whole "Circle of SW Life." In the beginning, the Lems screamed "Ya got no games!" What goes around...;)

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#45 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Is he the one with the Banjo avatar?

xXDrPainXx

You mean Banjo sig. And no, he wasn't talking about him.

I think he is talking about the one guy that pretty much posted back to back to back 3 times with a small amount of damage control and has RLB in the username haha.

Yeah that is who I meant.

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#46 FIipMode
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I never needed Game Informer to tell me that.
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#47 Karnage108
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[QUOTE="John_Read"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The term 'Console Exclusive' is meaningless, that was established months ago.

ianuilliam

then why cows makes console graphics king thread ?

Because Lemmings invented the termto try to claim ownage over Cows back when Gears was supposed to be the best looking console game (but obviously couldn't beat Crysis). Then along came PS3 exclusives that looked better. It's the same reason cows make "360 has no games" threads: because they had to listen to lemmings say it back at the beginning of the gen. Turn-around is fair play.

Ummm... link? I've never heard of that happening.

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#48 savagetwinkie
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before the TC or anyone else can continue to say exclusives instead of 1st party exclusives ill post this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

There are currently 798 (exclusive: 111; console exclusive: 75; multiplatform: 611) games on this list.

WilliamRLBaker
those are inflated numbers, its counting arcade numbers as well, and apparently they don't count
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#49 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="John_Read"] then why cows makes console graphics king thread ?Karnage108

Because Lemmings invented the termto try to claim ownage over Cows back when Gears was supposed to be the best looking console game (but obviously couldn't beat Crysis). Then along came PS3 exclusives that looked better. It's the same reason cows make "360 has no games" threads: because they had to listen to lemmings say it back at the beginning of the gen. Turn-around is fair play.

Ummm... link? I've never heard of that happening.

Because it didnt happen, Gears was the graphics king back then, until Crysis came along. In fact i think it was around the time MGS4 won the GS graphics award that the CGK thing really kicked off.

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#50 Snugenz
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Lol I always see the same person swooping in to defend the 360 at a moments notice, Haha Renzokucant

And you always see the same people bashing the 360 at a moments notice yeah?. Or do you just not notice them ...