Game on for Sony. Microsoft has to finally be more serious.

[QUOTE="hanslacher54"]

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Shh don't state the obvious. The cows are too busy blindly following somebody elses opinons to form their own. Remember the true gamer develops their own opinion as opposed to conforms it with an opinion by a total stranger. Maybe I should take pics of the unsold U2 copies after launch day...

MizFitAwesome

Or that the PS3 already has had more AAAE's than the 360 has had the whole year in 24 hours....

Reviews mean more than sales...

Just because something sells a lot doesn't mean it's good.

If you look at the average score of game it tells you about how good it is.

Metacritic

Uncharted 2 (38 reviews)-97%

Halo ODST (74 reviews)-84%

Also if you look at THIS you will find some bad games.

If you look at THIS you will find that all those games are good.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

No, in the grand scope of things, Uncharted 2 has potential to be the best selling game on the console. How many games that get reviews like this dont sell? The game is geared to go places, from graphics to the depth put into the multiplayer. This is Sony we're talking about, you know, the guys who made the ps2. You really dont think they can sell this game?

Ribnarak

This isn't the same Sony that made the PS2, actually.

And no, I doubt they can sell Uncharted 2. Now sells don't make a great game but it's kind of sad when an expansion pack outsells a flagship "super" game by like 3 times as much....

ps3 wins in terms of games. maybe not in sales. Ever.

You got that right brutha. *fist bump*

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

Ah, and already this is a sales thread. Who cares if ODST sells more then Uncharted? Are they suddenly competing in sales? And i just have to :lol: at anyone who doesnt think U2 wont sell well. Sony isnt blind, they see all the positive press the game is getting. The ps3 finally has its killer-ap and you guys dont think theyre going to push it this holiday season? What did the first game sell, 2.5 million copies (granted it was bundled)?

To all the haters, please, Uncharted 2 is going to sell great, especially when the holidays hit

AHUGECAT

MotorStorm 1 sold 3.5 million, and Resistance 1 sold 3.5 million as well.... and the sequels flopped. Not saying they are bad, but really, Uncharted is nothing in the grand scope of things. 360 isn't worried in the least - in fact, the 360 has OUTSOLD the PS3 last week in America. PS3 is dead in America pretty much.

How is going from AA to AAA flopping exactly? And R2's co-op puts halo3 to shame.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

dream431ca

Is this gen over yet? And sales =/= better game.

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

AHUGECAT

In my opinion, the 360 and the PS3 both have there share of quality titles.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

Ah, and already this is a sales thread. Who cares if ODST sells more then Uncharted? Are they suddenly competing in sales? And i just have to :lol: at anyone who doesnt think U2 wont sell well. Sony isnt blind, they see all the positive press the game is getting. The ps3 finally has its killer-ap and you guys dont think theyre going to push it this holiday season? What did the first game sell, 2.5 million copies (granted it was bundled)?

To all the haters, please, Uncharted 2 is going to sell great, especially when the holidays hit

MotorStorm 1 sold 3.5 million, and Resistance 1 sold 3.5 million as well.... and the sequels flopped. Not saying they are bad, but really, Uncharted is nothing in the grand scope of things. 360 isn't worried in the least - in fact, the 360 has OUTSOLD the PS3 last week in America. PS3 is dead in America pretty much.

Halo ODST and $50 temporary price cut thats simple just wait after 6/Oct and PS3 will be back outselling 360 again.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

AHUGECAT

Is this gen over yet? And sales =/= better game.

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

you actually believe that?

p.s if M$ can outsell u2 with odst (old engine rehashed mp etc etc) then M$ knows they dont have to put effort in to make money, they can continue to release sub HD games on old engines

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

AHUGECAT

Is this gen over yet? And sales =/= better game.

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

The market is dominated by casuals. 360 games have a broader appeal. 360 games are also good.

A good chunk of high scoring ps3 exclusives do not share the same appeal (like DS, VC, InFamous, etc), yet retain similar quality

sales do no always reflect quality

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"] Funny how you miss the point. sales don't equal squat. If it sells well, great. if not, who cares? are sales the only thing that satisfy you? can you not sleep at night if game x sells less than 1 million in a week?SilverChimera

This thread is about Microsoft and SONY. In the title its says "Microsoft has to finally be more serious"

If that's the case then Sales mean everything.

You're making the mistake of taking petty SW squabbles into real life. TC or anyone can dictate all the want on about the principals of games but the only thing that translates to these companies [Microsoft, SONY] is sales and market share. From a business stand point. Microsoft is kicking butt. No one [at MS] is sweating at a board meeting over AAAs. Only in SW.

You can criticize a company. Fine, but you cannot suggest what they should do by the perspective of the consumer rather it should be the by the best interests of the company Thats why I always put myself in their shoes when it comes to understanding their actions.

Bottom Line: the second you mention the console manufacturers, sales automatically comes into play, because its the most important thing to them.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Is this gen over yet? And sales =/= better game.

Mr_Apple_Soup

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

The market is dominated by casuals. 360 games have a broader appeal. 360 games are also good.

A good chunk of high scoring ps3 exclusives do not share the same appeal (like DS, VC, InFamous, etc), yet retain similar quality

sales do no always reflect quality

True, but it says something when a super game sells bad - I mean, Killzone 2 was hyped as Sony's answer to Halo and it flopped so bad I almost pitied it. But really, to one person ODST is better than Uncharted, and to the other, Uncharted is better. It's just Halo appeals to many, many more people than Uncharted does. Halo is up there with Mario, Zelda, and Final Fantasy in terms of popularity.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Is this gen over yet? And sales =/= better game.

kate_jones

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

you actually believe that?

p.s if M$ can outsell u2 with odst (old engine rehashed mp etc etc) then M$ knows they dont have to put effort in to make money, they can continue to release sub HD games on old engines

And if the PS3 sells well, then Sony knows they can get away with selling $599 machines and losing exclusives left and right (I mean Tekken 6, FFXIII and Devil May Cry 4 were supposed to be PS3 exclusive). It works both ways.

ODST is actually a really, really good game for $60 though.

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

AHUGECAT

you actually believe that?

p.s if M$ can outsell u2 with odst (old engine rehashed mp etc etc) then M$ knows they dont have to put effort in to make money, they can continue to release sub HD games on old engines

And if the PS3 sells well, then Sony knows they can get away with selling $599 machines and losing exclusives left and right (I mean Tekken 6, FFXIII and Devil May Cry 4 were supposed to be PS3 exclusive). It works both ways.

ODST is actually a really, really good game for $60 though.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

you actually believe that?

p.s if M$ can outsell u2 with odst (old engine rehashed mp etc etc) then M$ knows they dont have to put effort in to make money, they can continue to release sub HD games on old engines

pyromaniac223

And if the PS3 sells well, then Sony knows they can get away with selling $599 machines and losing exclusives left and right (I mean Tekken 6, FFXIII and Devil May Cry 4 were supposed to be PS3 exclusive). It works both ways.

ODST is actually a really, really good game for $60 though.

ODST is an expansion pack FPS.... I give it a 9.5/10... it IS the expansion pack to the GOAT game.

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

Shh don't state the obvious. The cows are too busy blindly following somebody elses opinons to form their own. Remember the true gamer develops their own opinion as opposed to conforms it with an opinion by a total stranger. Maybe I should take pics of the unsold U2 copies after launch day...

MizFitAwesome

Funny, where did I mention the Wii? Oh that's right, you have to hide behind a different platform when you can't the aargument based on the PS3....

You know I went over to the thread we had yesterday regarding this, waiting for your post, but you seemed to have abondoned it. Yet, here you are, spouting the same flawed damage control I have already responded to. That's some true blindness right there, since ur such a fan of logic and blindness Miz. Oh the irony. When a game gets great scores, you run and hide behind sales, yet when someone points out the fault of sales determining quality, you quickly disregard it.

Since your such a fan of being logical, why do you make the fallacy of using a straw man argument? You totally ignore the point Chimera makes, and then trash him instead of the argument. I expected better from someone who holds knowledge and reason to be so valuable-- you continously berate cows (and just cows) for making silly claims, yet you fail to see past "just cows"

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

And if the PS3 sells well, then Sony knows they can get away with selling $599 machines and losing exclusives left and right (I mean Tekken 6, FFXIII and Devil May Cry 4 were supposed to be PS3 exclusive). It works both ways.

ODST is actually a really, really good game for $60 though.

AHUGECAT

ODST is an expansion pack FPS.... I give it a 9.5/10... it IS the expansion pack to the GOAT game.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

And if the PS3 sells well, then Sony knows they can get away with selling $599 machines and losing exclusives left and right (I mean Tekken 6, FFXIII and Devil May Cry 4 were supposed to be PS3 exclusive). It works both ways.

ODST is actually a really, really good game for $60 though.

AHUGECAT

ODST is an expansion pack FPS.... I give it a 9.5/10... it IS the expansion pack to the GOAT game.

According to your sig it would be a 4.0

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] But it's 6 hours. That's like a 5.0 maybepyromaniac223

ODST is an expansion pack FPS.... I give it a 9.5/10... it IS the expansion pack to the GOAT game.

It's an expansion pack that is incredible.... Halo once again proves why it is a 2 million in one day seller.

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

AHUGECAT

The market is dominated by casuals. 360 games have a broader appeal. 360 games are also good.

A good chunk of high scoring ps3 exclusives do not share the same appeal (like DS, VC, InFamous, etc), yet retain similar quality

sales do no always reflect quality

True, but it says something when a super game sells bad - I mean, Killzone 2 was hyped as Sony's answer to Halo and it flopped so bad I almost pitied it. But really, to one person ODST is better than Uncharted, and to the other, Uncharted is better. It's just Halo appeals to many, many more people than Uncharted does. Halo is up there with Mario, Zelda, and Final Fantasy in terms of popularity.

Yes, exactly. I agree that Uncharted wont sell ODST as i had already stated in an earlier post, nor do i believe it is anywhere near or will ever be anywhere near as popular. I do believe that Uncharted 2 will sell well though. It doesnt have to sell better then Halo to sell well, it just has to be asserted as the "must have" game, or as you called it, the 'super" game that it is, and it has a chance to. What else is Sony going to market for the holidays? The pricecut? Ratchet and Clank? I just have a hunch they're going to put U2 out there.

Not meeting Halo sales =/= failure, but like you said, the game still has to sell well to be a success. Should be interesting to watch :P

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

The market is dominated by casuals. 360 games have a broader appeal. 360 games are also good.

A good chunk of high scoring ps3 exclusives do not share the same appeal (like DS, VC, InFamous, etc), yet retain similar quality

sales do no always reflect quality

Mr_Apple_Soup

True, but it says something when a super game sells bad - I mean, Killzone 2 was hyped as Sony's answer to Halo and it flopped so bad I almost pitied it. But really, to one person ODST is better than Uncharted, and to the other, Uncharted is better. It's just Halo appeals to many, many more people than Uncharted does. Halo is up there with Mario, Zelda, and Final Fantasy in terms of popularity.

Yes, exactly. I agree that Uncharted wont sell ODST as i had already stated in an earlier post, nor do i believe it is anywhere near or will ever be anywhere near as popular. I do believe that Uncharted 2 will sell well though. It doesnt have to sell better then Halo to sell well, it just has to be asserted as the "must have" game, or as you called it, the 'super" game that it is, and it has a chance to. What else is Sony going to market for the holidays? The pricecut? Ratchet and Clank? I just have a hunch they're going to put U2 out there.

Not meeting Halo sales =/= failure, but like you said, the game still has to sell well to be a success. Should be interesting to watch :P

What I'm saying is that to some people Uncharted is good, but to more people Halo is better. In fact, Uncharted barely even appeals to many 360 owners which is why the 360 is destroying the PS3 in America.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

ODST is an expansion pack FPS.... I give it a 9.5/10... it IS the expansion pack to the GOAT game.

AHUGECAT

It's an expansion pack that is incredible.... Halo once again proves why it is a 2 million in one day seller.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] It's an expansion priced as a full game then. I guess it's not very good value.pyromaniac223

It's an expansion pack that is incredible.... Halo once again proves why it is a 2 million in one day seller.

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="hanslacher54"]

Or that the PS3 already has had more AAAE's than the 360 has had the whole year in 24 hours....

hanslacher54

Reviews mean more than sales...

Just because something sells a lot doesn't mean it's good.

If you look at the average score of game it tells you about how good it is.

Metacritic

Uncharted 2 (38 reviews)-97%

Halo ODST (74 reviews)-84%

Also if you look at THIS you will find some bad games.

If you look at THIS you will find that all those games are good.

Don't bother arguing with him-- he knows that the scores prove the game is great, so he hides behind sales. He is simply in denial

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] It's an expansion priced as a full game then. I guess it's not very good value.pyromaniac223

It's an expansion pack that is incredible.... Halo once again proves why it is a 2 million in one day seller.

COD4 scored highly as well with an even shorter singleplayer. Welcome to reality.

[QUOTE="hanslacher54"]

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]Case in point, instead of forming your own opinion, you just conform to someone elses. Blindness at its best.

Alpha-Male22

Reviews mean more than sales...

Just because something sells a lot doesn't mean it's good.

If you look at the average score of game it tells you about how good it is.

Metacritic

Uncharted 2 (38 reviews)-97%

Halo ODST (74 reviews)-84%

Also if you look at THIS you will find some bad games.

If you look at THIS you will find that all those games are good.

Don't bother arguing with him-- he knows that the scores prove the game is great, so he hides behind sales

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

MizFitAwesome

Shh don't state the obvious. The cows are too busy blindly following somebody elses opinons to form their own. Remember the true gamer develops their own opinion as opposed to conforms it with an opinion by a total stranger. Maybe I should take pics of the unsold U2 copies after launch day...

I was expected a U.S Title sig or something. My friend she absolutely hates you but at the same time likes you. I don't pay attention to the Real World.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

AHUGECAT

Is this gen over yet? And sales =/= better game.

360 has the games, that's why more people own 360 games than PS3 games.

360 had NO games this year.

[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]

[QUOTE="hanslacher54"]

Reviews mean more than sales...

Just because something sells a lot doesn't mean it's good.

If you look at the average score of game it tells you about how good it is.

Metacritic

Uncharted 2 (38 reviews)-97%

Halo ODST (74 reviews)-84%

Also if you look at THIS you will find some bad games.

If you look at THIS you will find that all those games are good.

pyromaniac223

Don't bother arguing with him-- he knows that the scores prove the game is great, so he hides behind sales

Actually, I think they are both good indicators-- but MizFit likes to ignore scores when they don't go his way. With scores, you can at least see there is a majority consensus with a game. Same with sales, but there are many determining factors that go into the success in sales.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]

Don't bother arguing with him-- he knows that the scores prove the game is great, so he hides behind sales

Alpha-Male22

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Neither of those determine if a game is greatpyromaniac223

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] Actually, I think they are both good indicators-- but MizFit likes to ignore scores when they don't go his way. With scores, you can at least see there is a majority consensus with a game.Alpha-Male22

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

Is it insecurity I sense in some people? I never once mentioned about who has won the war, or who is going to win the war. And frankly, for anyone who owns both consoles, victory on either side can't be a good thing.

MizFitAwesome

Yes, I agree the cows are insecure, worrying about the scores when they know the games won't sell...

So...using your previously stated logic, they should use sales to form their own opinion of the game. I mean, you were just saying, on the first page in fact, that the most important thing is forming your own opinion before going on a rant about sales. :|

[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Consensus doesn't mean anything though. I mean, consensus indicates that the Jonas Brothers are the best band in the world right now.

pyromaniac223

Yes, and my point with reviews is that a predominantly positive host of reviews indicates (but does not determine) quality of a game-- much more than sales do. If someone were trying to sell me Okami or Wii Fit, I'd rather here what a group of subjective reviewers thought rather than how the game sold.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] Consensus can be badAlpha-Male22

Yes, and my point with reviews is that a predominantly positive host of reviews indicates (but does not determine) quality of a game-- much more than sales do. If someone were trying to sell me Okami or Wii Fit, I'd rather here what a group of subjective reviewers thought rather than how the game sold.

[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Consensus is always meaningless. Quality is subjective.pyromaniac223

Yes, and my point with reviews is that a predominantly positive host of reviews indicates (but does not determine) quality of a game-- much more than sales do. If someone were trying to sell me Okami or Wii Fit, I'd rather here what a group of subjective reviewers thought rather than how the game sold.

Of course-- and review scores and the actual reviews themselves tell a lot more than sales figures, and I generally do find that when is unable to play a game himself, the quality of a game can be judged on what others say. It's a lot more encouraging than knowing a game sells more. I don't necessarily disagree with most reviews, but ultimately the only way to be sure is to play yourself.

Now the problem I am having is that a few people hide behind sales when reviews and ratings do not favor them in a stubborn attempt to suppress their jealousy.

Seems like people are resorting to playing the sales card now. i thought only sheep play that card because they can't argue games and hardware. Back then when the 360 had sales, games and performance, sales never mattered. Now that the games argument is no longer valid, people are hiding behind the sales. The last resort for any consoles which has nothing else to brag about.

the 360 licks this year with the mild exception of forza, damn the 360 boys must be in denial lol, killzone 2 , MLB the show, infamous, uncharted 2 jeesh

And if the PS3 sells well, then Sony knows they can get away with selling $599 machines and losing exclusives left and right (I mean Tekken 6, FFXIII and Devil May Cry 4 were supposed to be PS3 exclusive). It works both ways.

ODST is actually a really, really good game for $60 though.

WTF?? the ps3 didnt sell at 600$ or at 500$. Sony knows not to ever try that crap again. Sony has learned the meaning of humble this gen. Now on to the topic at hand the OT never had anything to do with sales so why are we arguing about sales in this thread. Other then you and some others in this thread that started this never ending cycle of judging games based on their sales. Most people do not care about sales. If we want to argue about sales lets bring the wii in or the pc. He simply stated that this year the ps3 has had more AAA games then the 360 which from all accounts is true. Halo : odst will sell because of the name. We are not stupid. they could put the halo name on a party game and most of the average consumers would fall head over heels for it based on the name alone.

As a ps3 and 360 owner, I feel happy for the recent explosion of AAA titles for the 360 and ps3. We have Batman AA and ODST, which i got for the 360, and now we have Demon's Soul and Uncharted 2, both in which are AAAE, in just 24 hours.

This year alone, we had Killzone 2, Infamous, Street Fighter 4, Batman AA, ODST, Demon's Soul and Uncharted 2. I'm praying that Borderlands and Tekken 6 will be AAA. Theharder Sony and Microsoft battle it out, the better. Microsoft has been a little too arrogant previously.

jhcho2

Well said TC. I like the spirit of the topic (though by the time I read the rest I'm sure the fanboys will have ruined the party).

And don't forget MLB: The Show on your list of AAA releases this year!

All this talk of ps3 having a better 2009 is hilarious. PS3 when all is said and done is and will continue to be in last place.

bphan

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

MizFitAwesome

Shh don't state the obvious. The cows are too busy blindly following somebody elses opinons to form their own. Remember the true gamer develops their own opinion as opposed to conforms it with an opinion by a total stranger. Maybe I should take pics of the unsold U2 copies after launch day...

I think it's funny that you're talking about what true gamers care about when your concern is how much it sells.

[QUOTE="bphan"]

All this talk of ps3 having a better 2009 is hilarious. PS3 when all is said and done is and will continue to be in last place.

joel_c17

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

dream431ca

Is this gen over yet? And sales =/= better game.

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]"just wait til E3 2009" "just wait till forza 3" just wait till halo 3 odst" "just wait till 2010"?MizFitAwesome

Halo ODST already outsold most of Sony's 2009 lineup, nothing to wait for or how about the cows 'just wait for teh slim and it will pass teh 360.' Has it passed it yet in anything besides meaningless opinions?

Especially since my bud told me that he and a friend did firefight mode for 8 hours straight, no different matches, but 8 hours without dieing in one match cause of a glitch lol. The game is lovely huh lol. Attack, get hit ,melee to recoup ,and rinse and repeat for freaking 8 hours lol.

As a ps3 and 360 owner, I feel happy for the recent explosion of AAA titles for the 360 and ps3. We have Batman AA and ODST, which i got for the 360, and now we have Demon's Soul and Uncharted 2, both in which are AAAE, in just 24 hours.

This year alone, we had Killzone 2, Infamous, Street Fighter 4, Batman AA, ODST, Demon's Soul and Uncharted 2. I'm praying that Borderlands and Tekken 6 will be AAA. Theharder Sony and Microsoft battle it out, the better. Microsoft has been a little too arrogant previously.

jhcho2

I agree. Competition is good.

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Microsoft hs already won the battle. Heck, ODST has already sold more than Uncharted 2 ever will. I mean that right there says a lot.

AHUGECAT

im still waiting for your Demons Soul review. :P

I will have it up by tomorrow, I still have to play it a little more.

gee i will be thinking of the place of my console when i play killzone, infamous, uncharted 2, demon souls... when you play your console (which im assuming you have a 360 only) do you say to yourself "gee i wish i had some more AAA games to play BUT OH WAIT! MY CONSOLE IN IN SECOND PLACE YIPEEEEEEEEEjoel_c17

Why wouldn't a 360 owner be thinking of TLAD, ODST, Forza 3 and L4D2?