Game with the most convoluted story?

I think it's a cross-up between Metal Gear Solid 2 or Metal Gear Solid 4. One and three I think did well on the story without making it unnecessarily complicated by the end. Two and four on the other hand go over the freaking top. On one hand, it's pretty cool that I can go back to these games and play them again and actually be surprised by what happens in them despite playing them before, but on the other hand it's sort of boring listening to dialogue for 30 minutes before and after boss fights.

What do you guys think?

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MGS series for sure. I enjoy the convoluted plot tho :)locopatho

MGS series has a very convoluted story. It is also a terrible story. Sure, it's told well, but honestly, it gets WAY too much praise.dkjestrup

Kingdom Hearts series.

Kingdom Hearts series, MGS series (especially 2 & 4) Final Fantasy Tactics (PSX version)

Shaq Fu.

Kingdom Hearts series.

cloudff7tm

It would have to me the MGS series for me, it's not just convoluted, but just poor as well, the only reason it even gets praise is because of the cheesy 'epicness' it instills into the lifeless minds of some of the more..hardcore fans. Though the soundtrack was superb.

It would have to me the MGS series for me, it's not just convoluted, but just poor as well, the only reason it even gets praise is because of the cheesy 'epicness' it instills into the lifeless minds of some of the more..hardcore fans. Though the soundtrack was superb.

Moto1971

It would have to me the MGS series for me, it's not just convoluted, but just poor as well, the only reason it even gets praise is because of the cheesy 'epicness' it instills into the lifeless minds of some of the more..hardcore fans. Though the soundtrack was superb.

Moto1971

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It would have to me the MGS series for me, it's not just convoluted, but just poor as well, the only reason it even gets praise is because of the cheesy 'epicness' it instills into the lifeless minds of some of the more..hardcore fans. Though the soundtrack was superb.

locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Moto1971"]

It would have to me the MGS series for me, it's not just convoluted, but just poor as well, the only reason it even gets praise is because of the cheesy 'epicness' it instills into the lifeless minds of some of the more..hardcore fans. Though the soundtrack was superb.

Moto1971

MGS4 was my first MGS experience and i found it very easy to follow.

Il say Star Ocean 3.

MGS universe, final fantasy 7, and final fantasy 10.

Kingdom hearts would get up there too.

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Kingdom Hearts series.

KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="Moto1971"]

It would have to me the MGS series for me, it's not just convoluted, but just poor as well, the only reason it even gets praise is because of the cheesy 'epicness' it instills into the lifeless minds of some of the more..hardcore fans. Though the soundtrack was superb.

locopatho

metal gear is convoluted but at least reasonable most of the time

kingdom hearts is convoluted and bad

Metal Gear Solid 4 had a pretty convoluted story.

MGS series for sure. I enjoy the convoluted plot tho :)locopatho

metal gear is convoluted but at least reasonable most of the time

kingdom hearts is convoluted and bad

CaptainHarley

what do you expect its Final fantasy with Disney characters i mean really LOL final fantasy 1-6 were the better ones and eerything after turned into "im pregnant and emo protagonist" anyway yes i agree went over to friends trying to play kingdom hearts after 3 hours i went home becasue i couldn't take it anymore.

▲ MGS series for sure. What were they thinking. ▲

Metal gears Series, beacasue i loved the firstone first one was great, i played the second one annnnnd...all i got as some crazy stuff some dude was jack the ripper and the rpesident was the other brother or something, im sorry but that story was super super B mvie bad, lol.Sniping_Crowbar

Metal gears Series, beacasue i loved the firstone first one was great, i played the second one annnnnd...all i got as some crazy stuff some dude was jack the ripper and the rpesident was the other brother or something, im sorry but that story was super super B mvie bad, lol.Sniping_Crowbar

Jack the Ripper was Raiden's nick name when he was a child soldier in the Liberian Civil War. And Solidus being the president and orchestrating the Shadow Moses Incident with Ocelot was a great twist, IMO. Hardly B-Movie status.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Kingdom Hearts series.

mrmusicman247

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Moto1971"]

It would have to me the MGS series for me, it's not just convoluted, but just poor as well, the only reason it even gets praise is because of the cheesy 'epicness' it instills into the lifeless minds of some of the more..hardcore fans. Though the soundtrack was superb.

88mphSlayer

Metal gear series for sure. FFVII is another example, if you take the entire compilation as a whole. Xenogears and Xenosaga is another example. Chrono Cross as well. Final Fantasy Tactics toa degree, but the translation to the game was poor. A story gets convoluted when a director does not know how to handle the depth he has.texasgoldrush

Xenogears/Xenosaga handled their depth perfectly well. Better than FFT. But you're right in that at times FFVII could be muddled.

Chrono Cross had depth?

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Metal gear series for sure. FFVII is another example, if you take the entire compilation as a whole. Xenogears and Xenosaga is another example. Chrono Cross as well. Final Fantasy Tactics toa degree, but the translation to the game was poor. A story gets convoluted when a director does not know how to handle the depth he has.hakanakumono

Xenogears/Xenosaga handled their depth perfectly well. Better than FFT. But you're right in that at times FFVII could be muddled.

Chrono Cross had depth?

No, Xenogears/saga were pretty pretentious. There was little to no subtley with the "message" they were trying to convey. But once you made peace with the pretense, empathy with the characters and the epic journey stole the show.

But yes, it was heavy handed with their overarching themes.

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]Metal gears Series, beacasue i loved the firstone first one was great, i played the second one annnnnd...all i got as some crazy stuff some dude was jack the ripper and the rpesident was the other brother or something, im sorry but that story was super super B mvie bad, lol.SapSacPrime

MGS but that is what i enjoy about it. posthuman23

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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]Metal gears Series, beacasue i loved the firstone first one was great, i played the second one annnnnd...all i got as some crazy stuff some dude was jack the ripper and the rpesident was the other brother or something, im sorry but that story was super super B mvie bad, lol.II_Seraphim_II

Planescape Torment

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Just kidding. I'm sure some people already had their rants ready after reading that :P. Planescape Torment's story is awesome.

I guess MGS is a good choice.

I love when you can see a topic title and just know what it's going to be about. I knew this was basically going to boil down to a MGS/Kingdom Hears bash fest. Ding ding ding!NAPK1NS

Planescape Torment

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Just kidding. I'm sure some people already had their rants ready after reading that :P. Planescape Torment's story is awesome.

I guess MGS is a good choice.

NielsNL

[QUOTE="dkjestrup"]MGS series has a very convoluted story. It is also a terrible story. Sure, it's told well, but honestly, it gets WAY too much praise.Lethalhazard

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="dkjestrup"]MGS series has a very convoluted story. It is also a terrible story. Sure, it's told well, but honestly, it gets WAY too much praise.dantesergei

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I love when you can see a topic title and just know what it's going to be about. I knew this was basically going to boil down to a MGS/Kingdom Hears bash fest. Ding ding ding!Skittles_McGee

MGS, as flawed as it may be, is leagues ahead of the mess that is KH.

FF7 and it's Compilation and Assassin's Creed.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]I love when you can see a topic title and just know what it's going to be about. I knew this was basically going to boil down to a MGS/Kingdom Hears bash fest. Ding ding ding!hakanakumono

MGS, as flawed as it may be, is leagues ahead of the mess that is KH.