gameplay is not about the controller!!! (to sheep)

i hate it when sheep try and justify their system's greatness when compared to ps3 and 360 by playing the same old card of gameplay being more important than graphics. Ya it is, and wii doesent have it, lol.

Gameplay is not about how the game is played, its how the game itself plays. Basically its about immersion, and guess what, greater immersion in games requires greater technical power. something that the wii lacks.

For example, euphoria engine, lifelike movements, advanced ai, unscripted animation, vast enemies on screen, richly detailed (yes im bringing up graphics) environments, those are what make an immersive experience. Why do you think many games come out for 360 and ps3, but not for wii, especially technically intensive ones.

The cpu powers of the ps3 and 360 have what it takes (for now and a few more years) to provide such  an immerisive experience. The wiis overclocked gamecube cpu does not only fail in graphics, but also in every other area as well. Maybe now the graphical suckiness is negligble, but wait a few more years for wii to show how obsolete it is.

Right now the wii is running on price and a controller (well i might add). But remember that a controller is just an input.

AN INPUT!!! Which means that any company can come out with a similar input. What if sony came out with a Piimote ( funny i know) with bluetooth wirless built in so you dont need a stupid motion detection bar on top your tv? then what?

patents aside, any of the rival consoles can make similar or superior motion controllers, after that, all sheep will have left is their precious 1st party titles.

P.s. on another note, most non-hardcore consumers would pick the ps3 if all consoles were similarly price, because of brand recognition and technical superiority.

If they made motion sensing controllers they wouldn't be standard, so not many games would be made for them. And some games need the Wiimote, like Trauma Center.

"p.s. on another note, most non-hardcore consumers would pick the ps3 if all consoles were similarly price, because of brand recognition and technical superiority."

Well, I must say, that was a pretty dumb statement to throw in there...

I think you can gain effective enhancements in both graphics technology and new control.

Input device + Game design is what makes gameplay.. Simple...

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so  u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

"p.s. on another note, most non-hardcore consumers would pick the ps3 if all consoles were similarly price, because of brand recognition and technical superiority."

Well, I must say, that was a pretty dumb statement to throw in there...

Ganon_919

 ya. i might get lemming backlash for that, but come on, think about it, if ur not super into halo (like i am) he ps3 would be the best deal

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so  u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

It doesn't have an optical sensor, just an accelerometer which detects speed and a tilt sensor which detects, well, tilt.

 [QUOTE="BigBadButters"]you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.dane-cook-sucks

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

omgz iv been double quoted! and no blue tooth IS in the Wiimote. and if you are playing a game that doesnt require the pointing, like Excite Truck, then Wii doesnt even need the sensor bar plugged in. BTW, Dane Cook is pretty overrated but he is better than most comedians... 

Just because the Wii uses the wiimote doesnt mean that its the only console that  can have great gameplay

Is that what your teying to say?

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so  u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

Stabby2486

         

It doesn't have an optical sensor, just an accelerometer which detects speed and a tilt sensor which detects, well, tilt.

but the fact that u have to point it at the tv and put a sensor bar on top is what would makes it less superior to a similar device which works through frequencies. remember that the wii mote only works at certain angles, but a wireless non IR device would work which ever direction u point it, so if u wanna use the end of a wii mote to bud a person in the head with the end of a gun like in an fps, u can do so without restriction.

but the fact that u have to point it at the tv and put a sensor bar on top is what would makes it less superior to a similar device which works through frequencies. remember that the wii mote only works at certain angles, but a wireless non IR device would work which ever direction u point it, so if u wanna use the end of a wii mote to bud a person in the head with the end of a gun like in an fps, u can do so without restriction.

You need an optical sensor to tell where the controller is pointing. :|

[QUOTE="BigBadButters"]you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.dane-cook-sucks

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

Nope, you just owned yourself again. If you play a game that does not require pointing at the TV for something like a cursor, then you could, as you said, "stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move". The sensor bar sends out infrared not bluetooth. Get your facts right buddy.

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

dane-cook-sucks

It doesn't have an optical sensor, just an accelerometer which detects speed and a tilt sensor which detects, well, tilt.

but the fact that u have to point it at the tv and put a sensor bar on top is what would makes it less superior to a similar device which works through frequencies. remember that the wii mote only works at certain angles, but a wireless non IR device would work which ever direction u point it, so if u wanna use the end of a wii mote to bud a person in the head with the end of a gun like in an fps, u can do so without restriction.

the infrared sensor on the wiimote has nothing to do with motion sensing. it is like a laser pointer, the sensor bar just lets it know where its pointing on the screen, something the PS3 could never do. or that crappy "sidewinder" thing for PC. that is why Wii gets Trauma Center and the better Rayman, and PS3 gets...uhhhhh Lair? 

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"]

[QUOTE="BigBadButters"]you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.brightshadow525

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

Nope, you just owned yourself again. If you play a game that does not require pointing at the TV for something like a cursor, then you could, as you said, "stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move". The sensor bar sends out infrared not bluetooth. Get your facts right buddy.

you guys are confusing yourselfs to what im saying. the six axis controller uses blue tooth to wirelessly transmit data, all pointing and motion sensing is done in the controller itself. so when u play warhawk or something, u can stand any where and the plane will move with the motion of ur controller. An IR sensor is cheap and inferior compared to something that can be sent wirelessly via bluetooth or any other wireless transmition because an IR require u point at it directly.

i still have nor bee owned ;)

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

BigBadButters

It doesn't have an optical sensor, just an accelerometer which detects speed and a tilt sensor which detects, well, tilt.

but the fact that u have to point it at the tv and put a sensor bar on top is what would makes it less superior to a similar device which works through frequencies. remember that the wii mote only works at certain angles, but a wireless non IR device would work which ever direction u point it, so if u wanna use the end of a wii mote to bud a person in the head with the end of a gun like in an fps, u can do so without restriction.

the infrared sensor on the wiimote has nothing to do with motion sensing. it is like a laser pointer, the sensor bar just lets it know where its pointing on the screen, something the PS3 could never do. or that crappy "sidewinder" thing for PC. that is why Wii gets Trauma Center and the better Rayman, and PS3 gets...uhhhhh Lair?

The sensor bar is quite the opposite of its name.  It does not sense, but rather send infrared to the Wiimote and the Wiimote detects where the infrared is coming from and makes pointing possible.  That's why you can use 2 candles instead of a sensor bar.  The wire into the Wiimote for the sensor bar is for power. 

get back to my other points in the topic, u sheep are just fixated on my controller point. What about my points about true gameplay, and dont make this get more fanboy, so far, it has been nicely logical.

[QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"]

[QUOTE="BigBadButters"]you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.dane-cook-sucks

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

Nope, you just owned yourself again. If you play a game that does not require pointing at the TV for something like a cursor, then you could, as you said, "stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move". The sensor bar sends out infrared not bluetooth. Get your facts right buddy.

you guys are confusing yourselfs to what im saying. the six axis controller uses blue tooth to wirelessly transmit data, all pointing and motion sensing is done in the controller itself. so when u play warhawk or something, u can stand any where and the plane will move with the motion of ur controller. An IR sensor is cheap and inferior compared to something that can be sent wirelessly via bluetooth or any other wireless transmition because an IR require u point at it directly.

i still have nor bee owned ;)

You've "bee owned" since the beginning... No one said anything about IR. The six axis cannot point, but tilt.  

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"]

[QUOTE="BigBadButters"]you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.brightshadow525

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

Nope, you just owned yourself again. If you play a game that does not require pointing at the TV for something like a cursor, then you could, as you said, "stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move". The sensor bar sends out infrared not bluetooth. Get your facts right buddy.

you guys are confusing yourselfs to what im saying. the six axis controller uses blue tooth to wirelessly transmit data, all pointing and motion sensing is done in the controller itself. so when u play warhawk or something, u can stand any where and the plane will move with the motion of ur controller. An IR sensor is cheap and inferior compared to something that can be sent wirelessly via bluetooth or any other wireless transmition because an IR require u point at it directly.

i still have nor bee owned ;)

You've "bee owned" since the beginning... No one said anything about IR. The six axis cannot point, but tilt.

so i'm not just crazy

he really is assuming the sixaxis has a pointer function

"the six axis controller uses blue tooth to wirelessly transmit data, all pointing and motion sensing is done in the controller itself. " ¿Que?

get back to my other points in the topic, u sheep are just fixated on my controller point. What about my points about true gameplay, and dont make this get more fanboy, so far, it has been nicely logical.

dane-cook-sucks

How can you make a logical argument when you're facts aren't even correct and when you've been owned several times in one topic? 

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"][QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"]

[QUOTE="BigBadButters"]you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.brightshadow525

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

Nope, you just owned yourself again. If you play a game that does not require pointing at the TV for something like a cursor, then you could, as you said, "stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move". The sensor bar sends out infrared not bluetooth. Get your facts right buddy.

you guys are confusing yourselfs to what im saying. the six axis controller uses blue tooth to wirelessly transmit data, all pointing and motion sensing is done in the controller itself. so when u play warhawk or something, u can stand any where and the plane will move with the motion of ur controller. An IR sensor is cheap and inferior compared to something that can be sent wirelessly via bluetooth or any other wireless transmition because an IR require u point at it directly.

i still have nor bee owned ;)

You've "bee owned" since the beginning... No one said anything about IR. The six axis cannot point, but tilt.  

 The IR is vital to the wiimotes functionality but it is restrictive because it only allows up to certain angles (similar to the ps3's six axis i admit) but if the wii mote sent data through a more advanced means to the console, like 360 and its 2.4 ghz wireless system or bluetooth, than since the motion is calibrated on the controller itself, u can twirl and fling the little thing any which way u want and the console will still detect it.

no i have not been owned.

you guys know that it really doesnt matter how much u argue over it the facts remain that the wii is selling better than any other gaming device except for the ds which is (gasp) Nintendo yet again and guess what at the low production costs that it takes to make either one of these systems Nintendo is actually making money off these systems unlike Sony who really only has the ps3 out so one day the blue ray discs will eventually take over dvds untill then they plan to lose money on the ps3.

and im spent.

 The IR is vital to the wiimotes functionality but it is restrictive because it only allows up to certain angles (similar to the ps3's six axis i admit) but if the wii mote sent data through a more advanced means to the console, like 360 and its 2.4 ghz wireless system or bluetooth, than since the motion is calibrated on the controller itself, u can twirl and fling the little thing any which way u want and the console will still detect it.

no i have not been owned.

Look, Wii-mote does have bluetooth. Now compare the features of the two controllers. Sixaxis: Accelerometer and tilt sensor. Wii-mote: Accelerometer and full motion sensing (even detects roll), rumble, pointer device, and speaker. Sixaxis is a piece of crap compared to the Wii-mote.

you guys know that it really doesnt matter how much u argue over it the facts remain that the wii is selling better than any other gaming device except for the ds which is (gasp) Nintendo yet again and guess what at the low production costs that it takes to make either one of these systems Nintendo is actually making money off these systems unlike Sony who really only has the ps3 out so one day the blue ray discs will eventually take over dvds untill then they plan to lose money on the ps3.

and im spent.

Serraph105

finally, someone who doesent bring up that damn controller, omg, you sheep couldent even bring this simple fact up to shut me up and brought up that controller over and over again, cause guess what, thats all you got.

thanx serraph

The IR is vital to the wiimotes functionality but it is restrictive because it only allows up to certain angles (similar to the ps3's six axis i admit) but if the wii mote sent data through a more advanced means to the console, like 360 and its 2.4 ghz wireless system or bluetooth, than since the motion is calibrated on the controller itself, u can twirl and fling the little thing any which way u want and the console will still detect it.

no i have not been owned.

dane-cook-sucks

Wow... You still don't get it.  The Wii uses bluetooth to communicate to the Wii.  Did you get that?  Read it again if you want.  The only thing infrared is used for is the pointing aspect of some games/using cursors.  You could turn around away from your Wii not point to it and turn it on because it uses bluetooth.  Got it? 

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

you guys know that it really doesnt matter how much u argue over it the facts remain that the wii is selling better than any other gaming device except for the ds which is (gasp) Nintendo yet again and guess what at the low production costs that it takes to make either one of these systems Nintendo is actually making money off these systems unlike Sony who really only has the ps3 out so one day the blue ray discs will eventually take over dvds untill then they plan to lose money on the ps3.

and im spent.

dane-cook-sucks

finally, someone who doesent bring up that damn controller, omg, you sheep couldent even bring this simple fact up to shut me up and brought up that controller over and over again, cause guess what, thats all you got.

thanx serraph

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

you guys know that it really doesnt matter how much u argue over it the facts remain that the wii is selling better than any other gaming device except for the ds which is (gasp) Nintendo yet again and guess what at the low production costs that it takes to make either one of these systems Nintendo is actually making money off these systems unlike Sony who really only has the ps3 out so one day the blue ray discs will eventually take over dvds untill then they plan to lose money on the ps3.

and im spent.

dane-cook-sucks

finally, someone who doesent bring up that damn controller, omg, you sheep couldent even bring this simple fact up to shut me up and brought up that controller over and over again, cause guess what, thats all you got.

thanx serraph

It's because you just don't get it, and you don't admit that you in fact have been owned by almost everyone here.  Stop.  Give up.   

 The IR is vital to the wiimotes functionality but it is restrictive because it only allows up to certain angles (similar to the ps3's six axis i admit) but if the wii mote sent data through a more advanced means to the console, like 360 and its 2.4 ghz wireless system or bluetooth, than since the motion is calibrated on the controller itself, u can twirl and fling the little thing any which way u want and the console will still detect it.

no i have not been owned.

Stabby2486

       

Look, Wii-mote does have bluetooth. Now compare the features of the two controllers. Sixaxis: Accelerometer and tilt sensor. Wii-mote: Accelerometer and full motion sensing (even detects roll), rumble, pointer device, and speaker. Sixaxis is a piece of crap compared to the Wii-mote.

thats  because sony didnt really on a gimick too hard when creating their console, they just came out with that piece of crap to compete with nintendo.

 The IR is vital to the wiimotes functionality but it is restrictive because it only allows up to certain angles (similar to the ps3's six axis i admit) but if the wii mote sent data through a more advanced means to the console, like 360 and its 2.4 ghz wireless system or bluetooth, than since the motion is calibrated on the controller itself, u can twirl and fling the little thing any which way u want and the console will still detect it.

no i have not been owned.

Stabby2486

       

Look, Wii-mote does have bluetooth. Now compare the features of the two controllers. Sixaxis: Accelerometer and tilt sensor. Wii-mote: Accelerometer and full motion sensing (even detects roll), rumble, pointer device, and speaker. Sixaxis is a piece of crap compared to the Wii-mote.

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

you guys know that it really doesnt matter how much u argue over it the facts remain that the wii is selling better than any other gaming device except for the ds which is (gasp) Nintendo yet again and guess what at the low production costs that it takes to make either one of these systems Nintendo is actually making money off these systems unlike Sony who really only has the ps3 out so one day the blue ray discs will eventually take over dvds untill then they plan to lose money on the ps3.

and im spent.

brightshadow525

finally, someone who doesent bring up that damn controller, omg, you sheep couldent even bring this simple fact up to shut me up and brought up that controller over and over again, cause guess what, thats all you got.

thanx serraph

It's because you just don't get it, and you don't admit that you in fact have been owned by almost everyone here.  Stop.  Give up.   

i have yet to be owned, talk about the other points i brought up besides the damn controller. OMG, that was like one part outta the points i made, the main point being the controller can be copied by sony and microsoft and used on their systems (if not for patents).

New controls change and enhance the gaming experience, if implemented properly. Wii games obviously utilize the Wii controls, and are ranked by how they are played. On the Wii, they are played with the Wii controls, and are rated as such.

I picked the Wii over 360 all because of the controller. 

thats  because sony didnt really on a gimick too hard when creating their console, they just came out with that piece of crap to compete with nintendo.

Then why were you arguing about it in the first place?

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

The IR is vital to the wiimotes functionality but it is restrictive because it only allows up to certain angles (similar to the ps3's six axis i admit) but if the wii mote sent data through a more advanced means to the console, like 360 and its 2.4 ghz wireless system or bluetooth, than since the motion is calibrated on the controller itself, u can twirl and fling the little thing any which way u want and the console will still detect it.

no i have not been owned.

dane-cook-sucks

Look, Wii-mote does have bluetooth. Now compare the features of the two controllers. Sixaxis: Accelerometer and tilt sensor. Wii-mote: Accelerometer and full motion sensing (even detects roll), rumble, pointer device, and speaker. Sixaxis is a piece of crap compared to the Wii-mote.

thats because sony didnt really on a gimick too hard when creating their console, they just came out with that piece of crap to compete with nintendo.

So then Sony tried to be gimmicky?  The sixaxis came out after the boomerang failed terribly. 

I think this sums it up pretty well:

Gameplay is not about how the game is playeddane-cook-sucks

... yeah. Think about that one for a bit.

thats  because sony didnt really on a gimick too hard when creating their console, they just came out with that piece of crap to compete with nintendo.

Stabby2486

   

Then why were you arguing about it in the first place?

please re-read my topic, my point is the controller is an input and all inputs can be copied and if sony and microsoft could legally copy the wiimote, the wii would be rendered weak in every which way.

[QUOTE="brightshadow525"][QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"]

[QUOTE="BigBadButters"]you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.dane-cook-sucks

you have showed your intelligence... first off, blue tooth has NOTHING to do with motion sensing. a "Piimote" would need some sort of sensing device to be as accurate as Wiis for pointing. Secondly, Wiimotes DO have Blue Tooth lol. it is just a wireless technology that sends information really quickly and efficiently. double owned.BigBadButters

actually bluetooth is what they use in the ps3 controller for wireless communication with the ps3, and whatever motion sensing device is in the ps3 controller is transmitted via blue tooth so u dont need to point at the screen. U can stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move.

So sir, i have not been owned, u have ;)

Nope, you just owned yourself again. If you play a game that does not require pointing at the TV for something like a cursor, then you could, as you said, "stand 10 feet away pointing at the oposite direction of ur tv and the motion will still move". The sensor bar sends out infrared not bluetooth. Get your facts right buddy.

you guys are confusing yourselfs to what im saying. the six axis controller uses blue tooth to wirelessly transmit data, all pointing and motion sensing is done in the controller itself. so when u play warhawk or something, u can stand any where and the plane will move with the motion of ur controller. An IR sensor is cheap and inferior compared to something that can be sent wirelessly via bluetooth or any other wireless transmition because an IR require u point at it directly.

i still have nor bee owned ;)

[QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

thats because sony didnt really on a gimick too hard when creating their console, they just came out with that piece of crap to compete with nintendo.

dane-cook-sucks

Then why were you arguing about it in the first place?

please re-read my topic, my point is the controller is an input and all inputs can be copied and if sony and microsoft could legally copy the wiimote, the wii would be rendered weak in every which way.

Guess what.  Nobody can legally copy the Wiimote.  Nintendo thought up of it.  You just said that if Sony thought up of better ideas then they would be better.   

I think this sums it up pretty well:

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"] Gameplay is not about how the game is playedHoffgod

... yeah. Think about that one for a bit.

playing baseball, you use a bat, u can change that to a hockey stick, but the game is still the same, u play the game in a different fashion, but the game is still the same old same old. This is a bad example but immersion in games is a better one.

please re-read my topic, my point is the controller is an input and all inputs can be copied and if sony and microsoft could legally copy the wiimote, the wii would be rendered weak in every which way.

I read the topic, why were you arguing about the Wii-mote?

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"][QUOTE="Stabby2486"]

thats because sony didnt really on a gimick too hard when creating their console, they just came out with that piece of crap to compete with nintendo.

brightshadow525

Then why were you arguing about it in the first place?

please re-read my topic, my point is the controller is an input and all inputs can be copied and if sony and microsoft could legally copy the wiimote, the wii would be rendered weak in every which way.

Guess what.  Nobody can legally copy the Wiimote.  Nintendo thought up of it.  You just said that if Sony thought up of better ideas then they would be better.   

if i told you that sony may have came up with a way to use the eye toy with conjunction with some games to simulate ur motions within the game, wouldent u say thats more impressive than the wiimote. 

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

I think this sums it up pretty well:

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"] Gameplay is not about how the game is playeddane-cook-sucks

... yeah. Think about that one for a bit.

playing baseball, you use a bat, u can change that to a hockey stick, but the game is still the same, u play the game in a different fashion, but the game is still the same old same old. This is a bad example but immersion in games is a better one.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

I think this sums it up pretty well:

[QUOTE="dane-cook-sucks"] Gameplay is not about how the game is playeddane-cook-sucks

... yeah. Think about that one for a bit.

playing baseball, you use a bat, u can change that to a hockey stick, but the game is still the same, u play the game in a different fashion, but the game is still the same old same old. This is a bad example but immersion in games is a better one.

Yea... Terrible example... If anything the hockey stick would break or you'd get as far as a baseball bat could if it bunted...  Either way... You have no idea what you're talking about.  Please, instead of posting here, take this time to look up what the Wii is (Hint: It can play video games), then come back and see if you know what you're saying.