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Poll GAMEPLAY OR GRAPHIC? (122 votes)

gameplay 85%
graphic 15%

Hello everyone, i want to see your opinion here.

Which one do you prefer in a game or the one that you think is the most important element in a game, gameplay, or graphic?

In my opinion, its gameplay. Just look at Crysis, it has graphic, but no gameplay. Just a mediocre generic shooter where you shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, and throw grenade. And the game that i think has gameplay here - for example - is UC4

Start from the car chase scene, that scene where you dragged in a mud, the collapsing tower, all the puzzle solving gameplay, all better than Crysis's gameplay. Naughty dog just beat Crytek in gameplay creation skill. Crytek should just learn from ND on how to craete gameplay IMHO. instead of creating game with beautiful picture and less brainwork, they should make one with fun gameplay.

what is your opinion? post your comment below.

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#1 zassimick  Moderator
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GAMEPLAY. Definitely.

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#2 raugutcon
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Pretty graphics won't make shit game better, it will be kinda like a shiny turd.

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#3 aigis
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Gameplay is essential for a good game. Graphics are just a nice bonus to look at

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#4 freedomfreak
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Both.

A thing Crysis has.

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#5 musicalmac  Moderator
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I'd be interested to see if anyone could make an argument for graphics over gameplay.

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#6 PrincessGomez92
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Both.

A thing Driveclub has.

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Gameplay.

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#8 xbhonner
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@freedomfreak said:

Both.

A thing Crysis has.

yea, but.....crysis doesnt have gameplay

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#9 xbhonner
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@musicalmac: yea, agreed.

@musicalmac said:

I'd be interested to see if anyone could make an argument for graphics over gameplay.

yeah. agreed. haha....

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I vote graphics. Be honest. What is the point of all these Teraflops if all we get are 8 bit indies and rehashed games? Graphics are just as important as anything else. You can't tell me that Uncharted 4 would have been as impressive as a PS1 game. Or Gears of War would be as great if it was running on a OG Xbox. If graphics wasn't important we could have stayed on the 360/PS3 era for another 3 or 4 years.

Sony wouldn't be hiding Neo if they thought graphics and power were not important. Same with MS trumpeting those 6TFs at E3. Graphics are an important part of gaming today and to say any less is a copout. (at least to me)

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#11 freedomfreak
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@xbhonner: Epic trolling, my friend.

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Saying Crysis is just shoot shoot shoot is just like saying Mario just jump jump jump or dark souls is just swish swish swish.

in other words utter bollocks

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"In my opinion, its gameplay. Just look at Crysis, it has graphic, but no gameplay. Just a mediocre generic shooter where you shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, and throw grenade. And the game that i think has gameplay here - for example - is UC4"

Why do people post such moronic stuff?

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@bunchanumbers said:

I vote graphics. Be honest. What is the point of all these Teraflops if all we get are 8 bit indies and rehashed games? Graphics are just as important as anything else. You can't tell me that Uncharted 4 would have been as impressive as a PS1 game. Or Gears of War would be as great if it was running on a OG Xbox. If graphics wasn't important we could have stayed on the 360/PS3 era for another 3 or 4 years.

Sony wouldn't be hiding Neo if they thought graphics and power were not important. Same with MS trumpeting those 6TFs at E3. Graphics are an important part of gaming today and to say any less is a copout. (at least to me)

This always makes me think of a game like Zelda: A Link to the Past. It's not a graphical masterpiece, but it is a masterpiece. The gameplay is incredible, the story is great (at least classic "The Princess is in another castle"), and this is evident because it still holds up today. If some indie studio made this game today, it would still be phenomenal.

It doesn't matter what system it's on, or how pretty it is, it still plays the same. Whether or not that's possible with a game like Uncharted or Gears is another discussion entirely.

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#15 Kruiz_Bathory
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GAMEPLAY

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@musicalmac said:
@bunchanumbers said:

I vote graphics. Be honest. What is the point of all these Teraflops if all we get are 8 bit indies and rehashed games? Graphics are just as important as anything else. You can't tell me that Uncharted 4 would have been as impressive as a PS1 game. Or Gears of War would be as great if it was running on a OG Xbox. If graphics wasn't important we could have stayed on the 360/PS3 era for another 3 or 4 years.

Sony wouldn't be hiding Neo if they thought graphics and power were not important. Same with MS trumpeting those 6TFs at E3. Graphics are an important part of gaming today and to say any less is a copout. (at least to me)

This always makes me think of a game like Zelda: A Link to the Past. It's not a graphical masterpiece, but it is a masterpiece. The gameplay is incredible, the story is great (at least classic "The Princess is in another castle"), and this is evident because it still holds up today. If some indie studio made this game today, it would still be phenomenal.

It doesn't matter what system it's on, or how pretty it is, it still plays the same. Whether or not that's possible with a game like Uncharted or Gears is another discussion entirely.

Graphics made for improvements in other aspects of games. Storytelling, acting, and setting all added new levels of immersion that didn't exist in the past. What was just text on a screen in the NES days are now fully orchestrated scenes with mo cap and paid actors bringing a deep story to life in a way that you just couldn't do in the past. All of that thanks to new hardware with better graphics and capabilities.

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@bunchanumbers said:

I vote graphics. Be honest. What is the point of all these Teraflops if all we get are 8 bit indies and rehashed games? Graphics are just as important as anything else. You can't tell me that Uncharted 4 would have been as impressive as a PS1 game. Or Gears of War would be as great if it was running on a OG Xbox. If graphics wasn't important we could have stayed on the 360/PS3 era for another 3 or 4 years.

Sony wouldn't be hiding Neo if they thought graphics and power were not important. Same with MS trumpeting those 6TFs at E3. Graphics are an important part of gaming today and to say any less is a copout. (at least to me)

well, dont get me wrong. i do think that graphic is important, but just 2nd after gameplay. Sure, with powerfull hardware, we need a software that uses the full potential of the machine, but a game with pretty graphic with zero gameplay is just like pretty blonde with low of an IQ. Just my opinion

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Everyone will say gameplay in the poll, yet continue to balk at great games that aren't as strong visually, as usual.

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@WreckEm711 said:

Everyone will say gameplay in the poll, yet continue to balk at great games that aren't as strong visually, as usual.

That's because, in this day and age(or even in the past), they are not mutually exclusive.

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@WreckEm711 said:

Everyone will say gameplay in the poll, yet continue to balk at great games that aren't as strong visually, as usual.

Exactly! What was the first thing that happened when Gears 4 gameplay was shown? The graphics were scrutinized. Same with Uncharted, Zelda, Halo, FFXV, and nearly every other game this generation.

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@bunchanumbers said:
@musicalmac said:

This always makes me think of a game like Zelda: A Link to the Past. It's not a graphical masterpiece, but it is a masterpiece. The gameplay is incredible, the story is great (at least classic "The Princess is in another castle"), and this is evident because it still holds up today. If some indie studio made this game today, it would still be phenomenal.

It doesn't matter what system it's on, or how pretty it is, it still plays the same. Whether or not that's possible with a game like Uncharted or Gears is another discussion entirely.

Graphics made for improvements in other aspects of games. Storytelling, acting, and setting all added new levels of immersion that didn't exist in the past. What was just text on a screen in the NES days are now fully orchestrated scenes with mo cap and paid actors bringing a deep story to life in a way that you just couldn't do in the past. All of that thanks to new hardware with better graphics and capabilities.

Right, I'll completely agree with you in that sense, that better hardawre allowed for better games. Look at the case of the original Donkey Kong vs the SNES Donkey Kong--night and day.

But gameplay has a better shot of ruining a game than graphics. There are plenty of examples of really pretty games scoring really low because they just weren't fun.

Another example is a game like the original Halo. The way the Covenant moved and dodged, ran away, sought help in a firefight, etc, was all not something we could do so dynamically in the past. That's all in relation to gameplay. Yes, the graphics helped, but they aren't what fueled those exciting firefights.

Does that make sense?

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#22  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@bunchanumbers: Wow, I agree you. Everyone is being dishonest. They gameplay then brag about how powerful then Neo, Scorpio, and PCS are.

We are all complaining about NX rumored lack of power.

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Gameplay

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#24 Phreek300
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Both are necessary. But I choose gameplay over graphics no questions asked if it came down to it.

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@musicalmac said:
@bunchanumbers said:

Graphics made for improvements in other aspects of games. Storytelling, acting, and setting all added new levels of immersion that didn't exist in the past. What was just text on a screen in the NES days are now fully orchestrated scenes with mo cap and paid actors bringing a deep story to life in a way that you just couldn't do in the past. All of that thanks to new hardware with better graphics and capabilities.

Right, I'll completely agree with you in that sense, that better hardawre allowed for better games. Look at the case of the original Donkey Kong vs the SNES Donkey Kong--night and day.

But gameplay has a better shot of ruining a game than graphics. There are plenty of examples of really pretty games scoring really low because they just weren't fun.

Another example is a game like the original Halo. The way the Covenant moved and dodged, ran away, sought help in a firefight, etc, was all not something we could do so dynamically in the past. That's all in relation to gameplay. Yes, the graphics helped, but they aren't what fueled those exciting firefights.

Does that make sense?

In a way. But you also gotta admit that the graphics is what got customers in the door. Halo was one of the first games that had gigantic set pieces that showed epic battles. The giant walker in Halo 2 comes to mind. Those set pieces has nothing to do with gameplay. That was all eye candy that made gamers go wow.

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Gameplay

oh wow, mr. charizard1605 is here. welcome to my thread. lol. enjoy the thread

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@bunchanumbers: Wow, I agree you. Everyone is being dishonest. They gameplay then brag about how powerful then Neo, Scorpio, and PCS are.

We are all complaining about NX rumored lack of power.

None of this applies to me

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@bunchanumbers said:
@musicalmac said:

Right, I'll completely agree with you in that sense, that better hardawre allowed for better games. Look at the case of the original Donkey Kong vs the SNES Donkey Kong--night and day.

But gameplay has a better shot of ruining a game than graphics. There are plenty of examples of really pretty games scoring really low because they just weren't fun.

Another example is a game like the original Halo. The way the Covenant moved and dodged, ran away, sought help in a firefight, etc, was all not something we could do so dynamically in the past. That's all in relation to gameplay. Yes, the graphics helped, but they aren't what fueled those exciting firefights.

Does that make sense?

In a way. But you also gotta admit that the graphics is what got customers in the door. Halo was one of the first games that had gigantic set pieces that showed epic battles. The giant walker in Halo 2 comes to mind. Those set pieces has nothing to do with gameplay. That was all eye candy that made gamers go wow.

Right, but those big set pieces are gameplay elements. They're supported by graphics, but those experiences aren't made possible by graphics alone. I think it's a mix of the two, but there have been games with big set pieces that haven't been as fun, even if they're pretty.

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@musicalmac said:
@bunchanumbers said:

In a way. But you also gotta admit that the graphics is what got customers in the door. Halo was one of the first games that had gigantic set pieces that showed epic battles. The giant walker in Halo 2 comes to mind. Those set pieces has nothing to do with gameplay. That was all eye candy that made gamers go wow.

Right, but those big set pieces are gameplay elements. They're supported by graphics, but those experiences aren't made possible by graphics alone. I think it's a mix of the two, but there have been games with big set pieces that haven't been as fun, even if they're pretty.

True, but some of that is also based on other aspects of the set pieces. Loud bright exciting soundtracks, realistic sounds, big explosions and physics engines ragdolling everyone around. Most of that is based on the capabilities of the hardware. Some of it is gameplay, but graphics do play a role in that. People wouldn't be nearly as impressed by the set pieces in CoD if they were on the old school machines. Gameplay is vital, but games won't be nearly as impressive with mediocre graphics. Will they be tolerated? Absolutely. But people will always look at that game, sigh, and wonder what could have been.

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@bunchanumbers said:
@musicalmac said:

Right, but those big set pieces are gameplay elements. They're supported by graphics, but those experiences aren't made possible by graphics alone. I think it's a mix of the two, but there have been games with big set pieces that haven't been as fun, even if they're pretty.

True, but some of that is also based on other aspects of the set pieces. Loud bright exciting soundtracks, realistic sounds, big explosions and physics engines ragdolling everyone around. Most of that is based on the capabilities of the hardware. Some of it is gameplay, but graphics do play a role in that. People wouldn't be nearly as impressed by the set pieces in CoD if they were on the old school machines. Gameplay is vital, but games won't be nearly as impressive with mediocre graphics. Will they be tolerated? Absolutely. But people will always look at that game, sigh, and wonder what could have been.

Again, I absolutely agree.

However, if we had never seen those pretty graphics, we would have been none the wiser. Ignorance is bliss. Today, the original Halo is still a good game, but probably not as fun for new players as the most recent Halo game. And that is largely due to the fidelity of the graphics.

It's a mix of both. I just think that without good gameplay, graphics alone don't hold much meaning.

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Gameplay and I shouldn't have to explain why.

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#33  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@charizard1605: I know, you were excluded. I'll put that in there next time.

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The Order 1886...enough said

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A good balance of both, it doesnt need to have the most realistic graphic, it can be its own style like Persona, No Mans Sky, Tales of series, Fable, Sudeki, Mario, Sonic, etc.
And of course gameplay is very important, it wont matter if you have the most photo realistic game if gameplay is boring.

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@flyincloud1116 said:

@charizard1605: I know, you were excluded. I'll put that in there next time.

Thx bae

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See also: which kills the forum more, redesign or shitposting?

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@charizard1605: O.O

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Why are cows voting for gameplay? *Looks at Journey*

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Since SONY is on the cutting edge of tech and innovation, I would say Gameplay, but when you get a perfect 10/10 AAAAE must play excluive and graphics are noted, you know they have that in the bag too.

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graphics. i couldnt care less about gameplay

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#43  Edited By kvally
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Anyone who voted graphics is not a gamer. And if you did vote graphics, you better not be a PS gamer, because the graphics on that console are complete and utter garbage (as is on X1). You should be gaming on PC.

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#44  Edited By Flubbbs
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Why not both

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#45  Edited By GarGx1
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Definitely gameplay but i'd rather have both than one or the other

@undefined: I'm guessing you haven't played Crysis on PC, it's a very different beast from the cut back and down scaled console release.

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#46  Edited By GarGx1
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@Heil68: you're a funny man :p

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Gameplay without a doubt. It's why I still play games like Minecraft with my daughter for hundreds of hours. Game is ugly as sin, but immersive and fun as hell.

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#48  Edited By nepu7supastar7
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@bunchanumbers:

Alot of games would be dead by now if graphics was as important as gameplay. Graphics are just a cosmetic bonus. When I play Uncharted, I play it to actually play it! If I only played them for graphics, I wouldn't be able to enjoy Uncharted 1 or Golden Abyss after playing Uncharted 2, and 3. Alot of jrpg's like Persona 4 would be unplayable too. I'd also throw some popular Indies like Hotline Miami, Retro City Rampage, and Saturday Morning RPG.

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@flyincloud1116 said:

@bunchanumbers: Wow, I agree you. Everyone is being dishonest. They gameplay then brag about how powerful then Neo, Scorpio, and PCS are.

We are all complaining about NX rumored lack of power.

As long as NX is more powerful than Wii U, i'm good. A touch disappointed sure, but we all know what Nintendo can do with weaker hardware.

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#50  Edited By AzatiS
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We are in 2016 , we can manage to have both , why the hell should i choose one and what do you mean by gameplay ? Majority of games having great and responsive gameplay on the get go so why not great graphics as well ?

Dont tell me you sheep starting the graphics or gameplay so early because of the latest rumors of NX being weak , because 2 years ago majority of you were like " I hope for a traditional console with traditional controller and great 3rd party support ".