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#1 _Peoples_Champ_
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So, since my poll that I created about a week ago, concerning gamerankings revelancy to this site gamespot.com, the majority of you have voted that it should be revelant (53% to 47%).

I now declare HALO 3 a better game based on all reviews that gamerankings gave both games, by which may I add gamespot also contributes.

HALO 3 = 93.4%

Metal Gear 4= 92.5%

Thank you

Rookie reviewer Kevin VanOrd's review of Metal Gear 4 is totally out of line with critics review (92%) and us the the gamers review 95%.

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#2 crazy-player
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All reviews are opinions, not facts.
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#3 Dante2710
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Halo 3 : FPS

MG4: TPS stealth game 

:| oranges and apples

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#4 Jynxzor
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It's a good thing they are both totally different genres...

 

But if you want to argue your logic then there are many games better than Halo 3, acording to Gamerankings Halo 2 is better than 3...downgrade confirmed? 

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#5 Lionheart08
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Metacritic:
MGSIV = 94%
Halo 3 = 94%
MGSIV = Halo :o

Better yet, on Gamespot
MGSIV = 10
Halo = 9.5
MGSIV > Halo 3

So seriously, who really cares? :P

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#6 themagicbum9720
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and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.
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#7 angelkimne
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and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.themagicbum9720
Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.
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#8 themagicbum9720
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.angelkimne
Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

according to gamerankings, it's a better game.

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#9 _Peoples_Champ_
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I think, and probably every reviewer would agree to some extent, games are reviewed to the console standards and it's current generation line up. Zelda 64 was the highest rated game ever (I do believe), but clearlly their have been better games created already.

I think and we everyone can probably agree on, is that the Xbox 360 and the ps3 are pretty much givin the same standards.

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#10 clembo1990
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Halo 3 : FPS

MG4: TPS stealth game 

:| oranges and apples

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Stairs, no flapples!  Damn cockney rhyming slang so complicated! 

Anyway we say its GS or no go so far, whatever the GR score. 

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#11 pseudocaesar
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MGS4 is 94 on Metacritic. Both sites are fail. A) Metacritic includes Variety, and B) They allow rankings by obscure sites and people no ones ever heard of. Gamespot scores are all that matter in Gamespot forums. THREAD FAILS. GET OUT.
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#12 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.angelkimne
Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

So is Xbox360.

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#13 _Peoples_Champ_
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MGS4 is 94 on Metacritic. Both sites are fail. A) Metacritic includes Variety, and B) They allow rankings by obscure sites and people no ones ever heard of. Gamespot scores are all that matter in Gamespot forums. THREAD FAILS. GET OUT.pseudocaesar

Poll of gamrankings revelancy > pseudocaesar post.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26666380

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#14 Nike_Air
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Does it make a difference that a bunch of outlets reviewed MGS4 and MGO seperately because they didn't get the memo that MGO was icluded with MGS4 ? MGO reviewed great as a stand alone product , and I think that would have added to the overall scores. They really should be a little closer than what they are.

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#15 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.themagicbum9720

Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

according to gamerankings, it's a better game.

I dont think you understand.

You cannot fairly compare the scores of Wii games and 360/Ps3 games because of the difference in standards. 

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#16 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.ZoomZoom2490

Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

So is Xbox360.

0.o what?
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#17 Mordred19
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So, since my poll that I created about a week ago, concerning gamerankings revelancy to this site gamespot.com, the majority of you have voted that it should be revelant (53% to 47%).

I now declare HALO 3 a better game based on all reviews that gamerankings gave both games, by which may I add gamespot also contributes.

HALO 3 = 93.4%

Metal Gear 4= 92.5%

Thank you

Rookie reviewer Kevin VanOrd's review of Metal Gear 4 is totally out of line with critics review (92%) and us the the gamers review 95%.

What are you talking about? "Out of line"? It's just an opinion. :| Why should his experience conform to the experience of others?

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#18 Toriko42
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Halo 3 : FPS

MG4: TPS stealth game 

:| oranges and apples

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Reviews are reviews my friend, it's System Wars
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#19 fatzebra
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I'm trying to remeber the only AAAAE here this generation hmmmm oh yeah MGS4.

Sorry, but MGS4 is a game that isn't even in the same category as Halo. Halo is such crap compared to MGS4 that I can't even see how you can say otherwise. Also, Halo has a higher score because more people are accessible to it, not because it is better. Ask anyone who has played all of the MGS games which one is better.

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#21 SolidGame_basic  Online
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The only valid scores on this forum is GS scores. 10>9.5, simple as that.
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#22 Eyezonmii
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Metal Gear Solid 4 is more for the hardcore and specific fans, unlike Halo where its an everybody's pick up and play MORE casual game. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#23 angelkimne
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Metal Gear Solid 4 is more for the hardcore and specific fans, unlike Halo where its an everybody's pick up and play MORE casual game. 

Eyezonmii

I don't see how that's got anything to do with it...

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#24 Eddie-Vedder
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I'm trying to remeber the only AAAAE here this generation hmmmm oh yeah MGS4.

Sorry, but MGS4 is a game that isn't even in the same category as Halo. Halo is such crap compared to MGS4 that I can't even see how you can say otherwise. Also, Halo has a higher score because more people are accessible to it, not because it is better. Ask anyone who has played all of the MGS games which one is better.

fatzebra

Tis true, MGS accomplishes a lot more, Halo is fun and accessible. Diferent leagues imo. 

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#25 iRock_OBAMA
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10>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>9.

You Failed.

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#26 Theverydeepend
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Maybe just maybe its because halo 3 has a bigger fan base than MGS4? We all know Halo 3 has the biggest community, so maybe because of that more people voted for it. Less people play ps3 so theefore more 360 users are voting. You ca't state a fact on a poll because a majority of people have no idea what they are talking about because they haven't played the other game. Thats why there are reviewers like ign and gamespot. Thats why we have don't vote for president, we actually vote for representatives that then vote for president.
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#27 BeanTownBrown86
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wow, who cares?

:? 

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#28 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 is more for the hardcore and specific fans, unlike Halo where its an everybody's pick up and play MORE casual game. 

angelkimne

I don't see how that's got anything to do with it...

Because the MAJORITY of the gamers out there are casuals that are into simple games and shooters in general. MGS4 is a more for the hardcore...to even understand it you'd have to play the first one, knowing the cutscene lengths and overall complicated story telling....it isn't the most attractive title, expeically compared to a game like Halo. 

Halo has a more mass appeal and anyone can pick it up and enjoy it at some point, MGS4....just isn't that game. 

 

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#29 SpruceCaboose
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Here is the URL for System Wars:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_topics.php?board_id=314159282&tag=favorite-forums;title;3

Notice that it says www.gamespot.com and not www.gamerankings.com.

You can have GR relevant to discussion, but GameSpot's reviews are the scores that go here, and MGS4 got a 10, like it or not, and Halo 3 did not, again, like it or not.

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#30 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.angelkimne

according to gamerankings, it's a better game.

I dont think you understand.

You cannot fairly compare the scores of Wii games and 360/Ps3 games because of the difference in standards. 

But you can compare different genres... yea sure. your logic makes soo much more sense. 

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#31 Mongo-Boss
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Where does LBP end up in all this?
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#32 HPPL3
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ogdgdgdgdggdgdddgd gdgddgdgdgdgdgdffdgdfgdfhddfgdfdfgdfdfdddfdfddfdfgdfgdfdfddf...ok finally I get to post a resonce, this nes forum needs some seriiouis damn work. anyway i forgot what the hell i was doing... oh yeah which has the most reviews ?
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#33 ski11buzz
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umm, congratz? theyre kinda like opposite games
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#34 CODjon84
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True.. But LBP Beats both of them ;)
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#35 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.angelkimne
Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

Speaking of standards. Stealth Action/adventure and FPS are different. Not to mention, MGS as a series holds a definite sense of harsher criticism than most games out there.

If you were to ask me, I'd say MGS4 > SMG >> Halo 3. All are awesome games, but when you get into the subjective realms of AAA content there honestly is no 'true' winner. Until the industry votes in their game awards.

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#36 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.angelkimne

according to gamerankings, it's a better game.

I dont think you understand.

You cannot fairly compare the scores of Wii games and 360/Ps3 games because of the difference in standards. 

SMG wasn't reviewed on its standards soley on the Wii, but the platformer genre in general. It is a masterpiece of creative level design, varied/engaging gameplay, and the tightest platforming controls around.

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#37 AlexSays
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.angelkimne
Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

So Galaxy is only a good game because it's on the Wii? 

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#38 DealRogers
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Its not so much difference tho... :?
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#39 _Peoples_Champ_
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As a game, HALO 3's review and standing is still better than megat gear 4!
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#40 Brainkiller05
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My findings show 10 is higher number than 9.5.
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#41 angry_fork
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Stopped reading at "gamerankings".

This is Gamespot, deal with gamespot ratings or get out.

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#42 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 is more for the hardcore and specific fans, unlike Halo where its an everybody's pick up and play MORE casual game. 

angelkimne

I don't see how that's got anything to do with it...

There are more reviews averaged on gamerankings for Halo 3, because more people have played Halo 3.

MGS4 is on a much smaller userbase, leading to a much more smaller amount of reviews, leading to a lower score because there's less to average together.

Logic. Use it. Thanks.

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#43 Floppy_Jim
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The hypocrisy of Cows and Lemmings is so funny sometimes. Cows pulled this same crap last year with Ratchet and Uncharted and Lemmings have been doing it this year with MGS 4 and Resistance 2. TC, you know Gamerankings doesn't mean anything, MGS4 is AAAAE. Which means it's better than ANY exclusive on the 360. Just ****ing deal with it.
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#44 pi3m4ster
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does half a percent REALLY MATTER THAT MUCH? :shock:

and i'm a massive halo fanboy lol still i'd say halo 3 wins because it's multiplayer will last you1 meelion time longer than any single player

 

also... THIS IS SPART- uhhhh GAMESPOOOT

 

and lol @ the person calling halo 3 casual... thats like calling a hedgehog cuddly

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#45 princeofshapeir
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We go by GS reviews here, good sir.
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#46 EuroMafia
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So is Gears 2, but this is Gamespot.

 

[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.angelkimne
Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

No.

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#47 McCain_da_G
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So, since my poll that I created about a week ago, concerning gamerankings revelancy to this site gamespot.com, the majority of you have voted that it should be revelant (53% to 47%).

I now declare HALO 3 a better game based on all reviews that gamerankings gave both games, by which may I add gamespot also contributes.

HALO 3 = 93.4%

Metal Gear 4= 92.5%

Thank you

Rookie reviewer Kevin VanOrd's review of Metal Gear 4 is totally out of line with critics review (92%) and us the the gamers review 95%.

_Peoples_Champ_
Does it really matter ???
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#48 EVOLV3
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:roll: If you wana do that then, LBP >>> Halo 3 on Gamerankings. But here on GS, MGS4 >>> All ;)
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#49 W1NGMAN-
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That 10 is still bothering people?  :lol:

I loved MGS4 and it's probably the only game I would ever score a 10....the reviewers opinion had no influence on my opinion. GTA4 scored a 10 and I thought it was easily the lease fun game in the series.

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#50 CleanPlayer
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And this will affect your life how? It's hard enough to compare two completely genres.