gamerankings HALO 3 beats Metal Gear 4... PERIOD!

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#51 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

Metal Gear Solid 4 is more for the hardcore and specific fans, unlike Halo where its an everybody's pick up and play MORE casual game. 

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I don't see how that's got anything to do with it...

There are more reviews averaged on gamerankings for Halo 3, because more people have played Halo 3.

MGS4 is on a much smaller userbase, leading to a much more smaller amount of reviews, leading to a lower score because there's less to average together.

Logic. Use it. Thanks.

Your logic is flawed because you're assuming it would get higher scoring reviews than the percentage it has now. More reviews could also lower the score.

 

Logic. Flawed. Confirmed.

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#52 raskullibur
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.AlexSays

Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

So Galaxy is only a good game because it's on the Wii? 

Galaxy is Good Compared to Other Wii game not compared to PS3/360/PC game

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#53 pi3m4ster
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[QUOTE="pi3m4ster"][QUOTE="pi3m4ster"]I don't see how that's got anything to do with it...

 

pi3m4ster

There are more reviews averaged on gamerankings for Halo 3, because more people have played Halo 3.

MGS4 is on a much smaller userbase, leading to a much more smaller amount of reviews, leading to a lower score because there's less to average together.

Logic. Use it. Thanks.

Your logic is flawed because you're assuming it would get higher scoring reviews than the percentage it has now. More reviews could also lower the score.

 

Logic. Flawed. Confirmed.

i second this entirely... does it have anything to do with the score at all? :S

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#54 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.raskullibur

So Galaxy is only a good game because it's on the Wii? 

Galaxy is Good Compared to Other Wii game not compared to PS3/360/PC game

So why did GTA IV get a 10? Higher standards? lmao.

Mario Galaxy is one of the best games (if not the best, and by GR it is one of the best of all time) this gen. It would have been just as awesome on any other console.

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#55 FirstDiscovery
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Cool, but if you were hear before MGS4 review then Cows would be claiming GR is the bestest
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#56 FirstDiscovery
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I don't see how that's got anything to do with it...

 

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Smaller reviews = Higher score

Thats the way it works with GR

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#57 FirstDiscovery
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The hypocrisy of Cows and Lemmings is so funny sometimes. Cows pulled this same crap last year with Ratchet and Uncharted and Lemmings have been doing it this year with MGS 4 and Resistance 2. TC, you know Gamerankings doesn't mean anything, MGS4 is AAAAE. Which means it's better than ANY exclusive on the 360. Just ****ing deal with it.Floppy_Jim
Not really, Lemmings have not had a problem with GR

Even back in Mass Effect days they screamed GR, so i dont know what youre talking about

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#58 no_handlebars
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 [QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The hypocrisy of Cows and Lemmings is so funny sometimes. Cows pulled this same crap last year with Ratchet and Uncharted and Lemmings have been doing it this year with MGS 4 and Resistance 2. TC, you know Gamerankings doesn't mean anything, MGS4 is AAAAE. Which means it's better than ANY exclusive on the 360. Just ****ing deal with it.FirstDiscovery

Not really, Lemmings have not had a problem with GR

Even back in Mass Effect days they screamed GR, so i dont know what youre talking about

They cried foul when Cows tried to use it to for R&C and Uncharted.

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#59 Floppy_Jim
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 [QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The hypocrisy of Cows and Lemmings is so funny sometimes. Cows pulled this same crap last year with Ratchet and Uncharted and Lemmings have been doing it this year with MGS 4 and Resistance 2. TC, you know Gamerankings doesn't mean anything, MGS4 is AAAAE. Which means it's better than ANY exclusive on the 360. Just ****ing deal with it.FirstDiscovery

Not really, Lemmings have not had a problem with GR

Even back in Mass Effect days they screamed GR, so i dont know what youre talking about

You know exactly what I'm talking about. That's why I said "Lemmings have been doint it THIS YEAR." They used GR to downplay MGS4 and Resistance 2. The same way Cows used it to downplay the R & C flop.

 

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#60 BioShockOwnz
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Yup, Halo 3 is the better game, that's for sure!
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#61 TREAL_Since
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Sorry. Wont fly here. Gamerankings? Joke site now-a-days that counts MANY fan sites. They only count mostly NA and some European reviews as well. No legitimate Asian or Australian publications.

Use IGN's GameStats!

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#62 NinjaMunkey01
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Ithought we only used gamespot? :P

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#63 Lionheart08
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Cool, but if you were hear before MGS4 review then Cows would be claiming GR is the bestestFirstDiscovery

And now, after MGSIV, Lems feel GR is the best. People just need to learn to deal with the whole "Only GS counts for ownage" deal.

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#64 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Cool, but if you were hear before MGS4 review then Cows would be claiming GR is the bestestLionheart08

And now, after MGSIV, Lems feel GR is the best. People just need to learn to deal with the whole "Only GS counts for ownage" deal.

I know :lol:. No one should use GR or Meta really. Too many fan sites and no name publications are counted. Cows tried to use GR when they felt desparate and now Lemmings are doing it. Tsk Tsk. But we go by GS here!

If a Average site must be used:
IGN's GAMESTATS is the best.

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#65 Mlauthemighty
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Not comparable at all. You can't just go by ratings.

Halo scored top ratings across the board but completely failed to make me give a crap. Might be because I did'nt play the first two but an fps should not rely that much on story.And I highly doubt actually knowing the story would enhance the experience that much. I just can't see what makes it special.

 

MGS4 is overrated too but at least I bothered completing it.

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#66 null_is_zero
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How does a score makes a game better than the other one? They rate games for what they offer.

I prefer MGS4 over Halo 3.Though they're different in terms of genre, Halo 3 is an FPS and to be honest there are TOOOOOOOO many FPSs out there whereas there aren't many stealth story driven games which makes the Metal Gear saga kinda one of a kind. Splinter Cell isn't half as good as MGS3 to begin with. MGS4 is unique. 

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#67 ninboxstation
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How does a score makes a game better than the other one? They rate games for what they offer.

I prefer MGS4 over Halo 3.Though they're different in terms of genre, Halo 3 is an FPS and to be honest there are TOOOOOOOO many FPSs out there whereas there aren't many stealth story driven games which makes the Metal Gear saga kinda one of a kind. Splinter Cell isn't half as good as MGS3 to begin with. MGS4 is unique.

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1) give Splinter Cell the cinematics of a MGS, and it would blow it on the moon.....

2) give MGS the gameplay of a Splinter Cell, and it would blow it on the moon....

3) FPS or not, Halo not only hat an epic singleplayer, it also has the better Multiplayer

4) MGS4 is just like Halo3, looks great, plays like a old-generation Game (jsut like GTA4...)

5) Halo3, MGS4 and GTA4 (and Zelda TP i'm afraid) all play like old-generation games, but Zelda TP (Wii) has at least one element, that could not of been done on the last gen....

6) Gears of War is the real thing, it's nothing like anything from the last generation .

...if GOW2 doesn't win the GOTY, then why dont we just go back to playing MGS1 on the PS1 and watch some cool animé movies, because that's what it's like....

(if somebody doesnt know Metal Gear Solid, then that somebody would never say MGS4 is game of the year...... he'd say "it has cool cinematics, but Splinter Cell playes better".)

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#68 GodofBigMacs
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Yeah, too bad the two biggest online reviewers gave MGS4 tens... and many more. Not only that, but two completely different genres...
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#69 GodofBigMacs
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[QUOTE="ninboxstation"][QUOTE="null_is_zero"]

How does a score makes a game better than the other one? They rate games for what they offer.

I prefer MGS4 over Halo 3.Though they're different in terms of genre, Halo 3 is an FPS and to be honest there are TOOOOOOOO many FPSs out there whereas there aren't many stealth story driven games which makes the Metal Gear saga kinda one of a kind. Splinter Cell isn't half as good as MGS3 to begin with. MGS4 is unique.

1) give Splinter Cell the cinematics of a MGS, and it would blow it on the moon.....

2) give MGS the gameplay of a Splinter Cell, and it would blow it on the moon....

3) FPS or not, Halo not only hat an epic singleplayer, it also has the better Multiplayer

4) MGS4 is just like Halo3, looks great, plays like a old-generation Game (jsut like GTA4...)

5) Halo3, MGS4 and GTA4 (and Zelda TP i'm afraid) all play like old-generation games, but Zelda TP (Wii) has at least one element, that could not of been done on the last gen....

6) Gears of War is the real thing, it's nothing like anything from the last generation .

...if GOW2 doesn't win the GOTY, then why dont we just go back to playing MGS1 on the PS1 and watch some cool animé movies, because that's what it's like....

(if somebody doesnt know Metal Gear Solid, then that somebody would never say MGS4 is game of the year...... he'd say "it has cool cinematics, but Splinter Cell playes better".)

Have you even played MGS4, dude? You'll see the gameplay is probably 10x better than before, and you run n' gun fans are now able to do just that. Gunplay was upped so much... Play MGS4, then play MGS3... if you can still say what you just said about playing like an old gen game, I will cancel my account.
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#70 -Sniper99-
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Sweet, who cares? We're on GS here so we'll go by GS scores, even though scores in general don't matter much to me. MGS4 is one of my favourite games, it just finished the series off so perfectly that I hope there's not another MGS game that messes things up
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#71 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]and super mario galaxy's average is 97%. so that must be better than both of those games.angelkimne
Not really, Wii games are judged on different standards.

Standards of GOTY?
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#72 Droopeh
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Funny.. because Metacritc says MGS4's score is 9.4 and this is based off of more reviews than Gamerankings so.. MGS4 > Halo 3 /Thread.
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#73 Mckenna1845
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i actually thought halo was far superior to halo 3. I also feel there are better games than halo/mgs4, but both are definitely an amazing series of games, in my top 20.
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#74 Xalaten
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As a game, HALO 3's review and standing is still better than megat gear 4!_Peoples_Champ_

By your very own logic, Little Big Planet is better than them both.

Now what? Your move...try and spin this one!

I'm waiting!

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#75 Blackbond
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Posts like these are kinda obvious traps.

Halo 3 > MGS4 on GR

So the natural reply he is going to get is

But we only use GS scores here and 10.0 > 9.5

Then he's going to say oh we only use GS scores? Guess the 360 has better games then the PS3

The end

Don't fall for it.

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#76 Xalaten
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[QUOTE="raskullibur"][QUOTE="AlexSays"]

So Galaxy is only a good game because it's on the Wii?

EuroMafia

Galaxy is Good Compared to Other Wii game not compared to PS3/360/PC game

So why did GTA IV get a 10? Higher standards? lmao.

Mario Galaxy is one of the best games (if not the best, and by GR it is one of the best of all time) this gen. It would have been just as awesome on any other console.

No offense, but Mario Galaxy is irrelevant. Everyone still talks about Gears, Halo, GTA, MGS...but how often do you hear people bring up Galaxy?

If you're going to talk about Halo getting high scores due to hype, as many people do, Galaxy is EQUALLY guilty of this.

I hated the game. At some point I stopped enjoying platformers like Galaxy. I much MUCH preferred Ratchet and Clank FTOD.

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#77 DennisHopperz
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AAAA GOTY We only used Gamespot scores, one person cannot change the rules. Anyway, I judge most games for myself. Letting reviewers decide whether you get a game a not is stupid.
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#78 fabz_95
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Thats a big feat but they are two completely different games thus being difficult to compare.

The only similarity between the two games are that they are both brilliant.

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#79 gdp72
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I can't believe lemmings are still smarting over MGS4. Face it, MGS4 is far better then Halo 1,2, or 3!
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#80 metalgear-solid
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Wow, Halo 3 fanboys feeling so insecure.
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#81 SupremeLegacy
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Ok. Thanks for letting us all know that.
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#82 SpruceCaboose
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Wow, Halo 3 fanboys feeling so insecure.metalgear-solid
Don't confuse the TC with a Halo fan. TC is a lemming. Besides, Halo does not need to have insecure fans, as its a consistently great, AAA series.
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#83 Chiddaling
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Halo 3 : FPS

MG4: TPS stealth game

:| oranges and apples

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Oh no not this again :cry: lol....!
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#84 GodofBigMacs
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]Wow, Halo 3 fanboys feeling so insecure.SpruceCaboose
Don't confuse the TC with a Halo fan. TC is a lemming. Besides, Halo does not need to have insecure fans, as its a consistently great, AAA series.

Yes, a series that is INCREDIBLY overrated. I played it, and compared to its hype, IT SUCKS! Resistance 2 is better in every way, well, maybe not single player, but still. Gamepro agrees with me. CoD4 killed Halo already, anyway. Alright, Halo is a good series, I will admit, but it is nothing in comparison to the hype it gets. M$ and Bungie brainwashed everyone into thinking it was the second coming of the Messiah on a disc. It wasn't.