Games like Uncharted 2 and Crysis prove one thing.

That people will ignore the generic average gameplay as long as it's masked over with amazing graphics. One(cows) might say that Halo Reach looks like last gen compared to Uncharted 2, but I say that Uncharted 2 plays like last gen compared to Reach.

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How do UC2 and Crysis offer "generic average gameplay"?

You've played Halo: Reach? :oStevo_the_gamer

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zarshack

Pretty much this.

Also, Crysis doesn't have generic gameplay :|

"Crysis is just graphics" threads prove one thing:

Halo is probably the most archaic fps with the most dated gameplay this gen. It plays EXACTLY like a ps2/xbox gen fps ala halo and halo 2. Crysis and U2 on the other hand feature many things not offered last generation.

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zarshack

Halo is probably the most archaic fps with the most dated gameplay this gen. It plays EXACTLY like a ps2/xbox gen fps ala halo and halo 2. Crysis and U2 on the other hand feature many things not offered last generation.

blues35301

That people will ignore the generic average gameplay as long as it's masked over with amazing graphics. One(cows) might say that Halo Reach looks like last gen compared to Uncharted 2, but I say that Uncharted 2 plays like last gen compared to Reach.

peanutbudduh

Explain how either of them are generic?

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

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gamefan67

Halo is probably the most archaic fps with the most dated gameplay this gen. It plays EXACTLY like a ps2/xbox gen fps ala halo and halo 2. Crysis and U2 on the other hand feature many things not offered last generation.

blues35301

UC2 got a 9.5 here and is one of the highest rated games of all time. I hardly call that generic gameplay:roll:

The multiple suit abilities and not-completely-linear level designs make Crysis have some of the best gameplay in any FPS ever created. Those two games have great graphics, but graphics don't mean anything if the gameplay is bad and i think most agree with me.

I don't understand why people always see Graphics and Gameplay as two totally separate features. Sure, a game can be good, great even, with mediocre visuals (Dragon Age: Origins for example) but in many cases graphics and technology can greatly improve a game.

Crysis is a game such as this, but i'll use a even more clearcut example for the sake of arguing: Red Faction: Guerrilla. Without the destruction physics, the game would be crap. But, because you can destroy everything, its insanely fun. The physics fall under the graphics department, yet they are essential to the enjoyment of the game.

Crysis is similar, its graphics and technology greatly enhance the gameplay, its much more fun playing a game on a island thats absolutely gorgeoous to look at and interacts brilliantly when tinkered with. Its so much fun in Crysis just to enter firefights because of how dynamic they are, bullets will rip through foliage and bring trees down, grenades will blow holes in walls, and the A.I. will react unpredictably making the game that much more fun to play.

I'm not saying that graphics are needed for good gameplay, i'm saying that good graphics and technology can greatly enhance and reinforce gameplay.

Halo is probably the most archaic fps with the most dated gameplay this gen. It plays EXACTLY like a ps2/xbox gen fps ala halo and halo 2. Crysis and U2 on the other hand feature many things not offered last generation.

blues35301

Finally one thing cows and hermits can agree on...Crysis and Uncharted 2 does NOT have generic gameplay.

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Finally one thing cows and hermits can agree on...Crysis and Uncharted 2 does NOT have generic gameplay

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Blazerdt47

From what I have played of Uncharted 2.. It had some good set pieces, but overall gameplay was pretty derivitative of the Tomb Raider franchise.

UC2 got a 9.5 here and is one of the highest rated games of all time. I hardly call that generic gameplay:roll:

iKINGBOBi

Yup, U2 got 9.5 here and GOTY everywhere else solely because of it's amazing graphics. Good argument!Deathtransit

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Yup, U2 got 9.5 here and GOTY everywhere else solely because of it's amazing graphics. Good argument!peanutbudduh

You have yet to explain what makes the gameplay generic, as requested by myself and another poster.

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Yup, U2 got 9.5 here and GOTY everywhere else solely because of it's amazing graphics. Good argument!lundy86_4

You have yet to explain what makes the gameplay generic, as requested by myself and another poster.

the worldpeanutbudduh

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] A much better argument than yours. What does that even mean anyway? Like I said, the visuals masked the generic gameplay. Why do you think everyone got bored of its multiplayer already? Also, no Uncharted did NOT get goty everywhere, stop talking out of your ass.peanutbudduh

You have yet to explain what makes the gameplay generic, as requested by myself and another poster.

Again, you have not explained what makes the gameplay generic. Since when is the story a part of the gameplay?

The more open ended Crysis offered destuctible environments, vehicles which allowed for numerous attacks or playouts of diffeent situations, and the suit only added to the depth of the game.

I meant the setting, jesus christ....though you have a point because it's kinda true.

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You have yet to explain what makes the gameplay generic, as requested by myself and another poster.

lundy86_4

Again, you have not explained what makes the gameplay generic. Since when is the story a part of the gameplay?

The more open ended Crysis offered destuctible environments, vehicles which allowed for numerous attacks or playouts of diffeent situations, and the suit only added to the depth of the game.

UC2 got a 9.5 here and is one of the highest rated games of all time. I hardly call that generic gameplay:roll:

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] Everything about it is generic. The story, the gun fights, the characters, the world, the scenery.peanutbudduh

Again, you have not explained what makes the gameplay generic. Since when is the story a part of the gameplay?

The more open ended Crysis offered destuctible environments, vehicles which allowed for numerous attacks or playouts of diffeent situations, and the suit only added to the depth of the game.

Why would I explain something to you when you won't do me the courtesy offulfilling my request first. How are they both generic? Just explain it, and it will probably work out faster than continuing this back and forth.

Very little games offer something "new" and it's "own" over other games, yet that doesn't necessarily make the strictly generic.

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Yup, U2 got 9.5 here and GOTY everywhere else solely because of it's amazing graphics. Good argument!peanutbudduh

lol looks like someone has some grudge against UC2... why?? I don't know, but it certainly looks that way.

Ok lil buddy, care to explain HOW THE HELL HALO'S GAMEPLAY IS NOT GENERIC???

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Finally one thing cows and hermits can agree on...Crysis and Uncharted 2 does NOT have generic gameplay

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sSubZerOo

From what I have played of Uncharted 2.. It had some good set pieces, but overall gameplay was pretty derivitative of the Tomb Raider franchise.

Are you a hermit?

If so I can say the same thing about Crysis, the graphics are a marvel to look at but it's just another FPS.

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Again, you have not explained what makes the gameplay generic. Since when is the story a part of the gameplay?

The more open ended Crysis offered destuctible environments, vehicles which allowed for numerous attacks or playouts of diffeent situations, and the suit only added to the depth of the game.

lundy86_4

Why would I explain something to you when you won't do me the courtesy offulfilling my request first. How are they both generic. Just explain it, and it will probably work out faster than continuing this back and forth.

Very little games offer something "new" and it's "own" over other games, yet that doesn't necessarily make the strictly generic.

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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] Those things do play a part in gameplay. Explain to me how Uncharted isn't generic then. It is generic, it doesn't offer anything unique...something that can call its own gameplay wise.peanutbudduh

Why would I explain something to you when you won't do me the courtesy offulfilling my request first. How are they both generic. Just explain it, and it will probably work out faster than continuing this back and forth.

Very little games offer something "new" and it's "own" over other games, yet that doesn't necessarily make the strictly generic.

No, you just named a few general things, nd never truly explained anything. I wish I could get away with your "explaining" in some of my uni papers as i'd be pulling A's from all over.

I explained what Crysis offered over a lot of other FPS games. You haven't explained diddly squat, and it's looking like ou haven't even played the game up until now.

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Yup, U2 got 9.5 here and GOTY everywhere else solely because of it's amazing graphics. Good argument!GreenGoblin2099

lol looks like someone has some grudge against UC2... why?? I don't know, but it certainly looks that way.

Ok lil buddy, care to explain HOW THE HELL HALO'S GAMEPLAY IS NOT GENERIC???

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why would I explain something to you when you won't do me the courtesy offulfilling my request first. How are they both generic. Just explain it, and it will probably work out faster than continuing this back and forth.

Very little games offer something "new" and it's "own" over other games, yet that doesn't necessarily make the strictly generic.

lundy86_4

No, you just named a few general things, nd never truly explained anything. I wish I could get away with your "explaining" in some of my uni papers as i'd be pulling A's from all over.

I explained what Crysis offered over a lot of other FPS games. You haven't explained diddly squat, and it's looking like ou haven't even played the game up until now.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] A much better argument than yours. What does that even mean anyway? Like I said, the visuals masked the generic gameplay. Why do you think everyone got bored of its multiplayer already? Also, no Uncharted did NOT get goty everywhere, stop talking out of your ass.peanutbudduh

lol looks like someone has some grudge against UC2... why?? I don't know, but it certainly looks that way.

Ok lil buddy, care to explain HOW THE HELL HALO'S GAMEPLAY IS NOT GENERIC???

Making it "addicting" and the fact that "everybody is still playing it" doesn't make it original.

That people will ignore the generic average gameplay as long as it's masked over with amazing graphics. One(cows) might say that Halo Reach looks like last gen compared to Uncharted 2, but I say that Uncharted 2 plays like last gen compared to Reach.

peanutbudduh

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] A much better argument than yours. What does that even mean anyway? Like I said, the visuals masked the generic gameplay. Why do you think everyone got bored of its multiplayer already? Also, no Uncharted did NOT get goty everywhere, stop talking out of your ass.peanutbudduh

lol looks like someone has some grudge against UC2... why?? I don't know, but it certainly looks that way.

Ok lil buddy, care to explain HOW THE HELL HALO'S GAMEPLAY IS NOT GENERIC???

crysis has average gameplay ahahahahhahahahah omg

suggestion get a dictionary look up the word average then come back

well accept an open apology

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

lol looks like someone has some grudge against UC2... why?? I don't know, but it certainly looks that way.

Ok lil buddy, care to explain HOW THE HELL HALO'S GAMEPLAY IS NOT GENERIC???

Making it "addicting" and the fact that "everybody is still playing it" doesn't make it original.

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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] It takes everything that makes a good shooter, mixes em well and balances them out thus making it addicting. There are so many things you can do in the game. Everyone is still playing it to this day. Deathtransit

Making it "addicting" and the fact that "everybody is still playing it" doesn't make it original.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] A much better argument than yours. What does that even mean anyway? Like I said, the visuals masked the generic gameplay. Why do you think everyone got bored of its multiplayer already? Also, no Uncharted did NOT get goty everywhere, stop talking out of your ass.peanutbudduh

lol looks like someone has some grudge against UC2... why?? I don't know, but it certainly looks that way.

Ok lil buddy, care to explain HOW THE HELL HALO'S GAMEPLAY IS NOT GENERIC???

First off you make no sense at all. Second me.../thread.

What are you smoking? How does Uncharted 2 not deserve GOTY? Your saying that because Halo is a balanced game that means it's better than U2? I've had U2 since the day it came out and guess what? I'm still playing the multiplayer, suprise!

Just because you don't play multiplayer doesn't make your opinion as a universal opinion for everyone. Halo is as casual as a game could get, next to Modern Warfare 2 that is. I've had MW2 since it came out and I am bored to death of it's multiplayer and haven't even reached not one prestige. For you it might be different. The point is that everyone has a different taste for different games. Uncharted 2 blends incredible graphics, simple yet very engaging cinematic gameplay that keeps you to the edge of your seat and has a hollywood esque blockbuster story and writing that makes it one of the best in video game storytelling.

I think we can all assume that is balanced enough.

Have a good day.

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Making it "addicting" and the fact that "everybody is still playing it" doesn't make it original.

peanutbudduh

Yet when asked why Halo is not generic, you say it takes everything that makes a good shooter and puts it together, essentially making it just as derivative.

You're stuck in the fanboy paradox loop, where your reasoning for one thing being "generic" is exactly the same as your reasoning for another thing being "not generic."

You still haven't qualified how Uncharted 2 and Crysis are "average."

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Making it "addicting" and the fact that "everybody is still playing it" doesn't make it original.

peanutbudduh

But you were trying to explain why it was not a generic, and you went on to list things that make the game sound like a generic/derivative/unoriginal shooter. :|

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"] haha, I love self-ownage!gamefan67

But you were trying to explain why it was not a generic, and you went on to list things that make the game sound like a generic/derivative/unoriginal shooter. :|

UC2 is a corridor crawl. It's no feat making tight and compact levels look great.

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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] LMFAO I never even said it was original. Reading comprehension...peanutbudduh

But you were trying to explain why it was not a generic, and you went on to list things that make the game sound like a generic/derivative/unoriginal shooter. :|

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Yup, U2 got 9.5 here and GOTY everywhere else solely because of it's amazing graphics. Good argument!peanutbudduh

Who are you to talk to him like that? Aren't we supposed to be respectful on this board? Someone should report you:? Anyway UC2 has over 80000 players online at a given time, I hardly call that "people getting bored of the game"

That people will ignore the generic average gameplay as long as it's masked over with amazing graphics. One(cows) might say that Halo Reach looks like last gen compared to Uncharted 2, but I say that Uncharted 2 plays like last gen compared to Reach.

peanutbudduh