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xdone might actually have advantage due to the edram type shit though.
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framebuffer uses alot of bandwidth on ps4 it's eating away at the gddr5 bandwidth
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on xdone it's not eating away at the gddr3
u can make the difference... i say go for itXbox 180/Ps4 is cool but why is never PC in the spotlight here in SW, PC also get lots games you know:?
Wiiyou
They don't want to hear about the pc this is console wars it seems.Xbox 180/Ps4 is cool but why is never PC in the spotlight here in SW, PC also get lots games you know:?
Wiiyou
I dont want an x1 Ive already got my cable  to watch tv x1 is just a gimmick to freeview and they might look the same in game wise but further down the line ps4 will pull ahead and all u **** nuts thats getting an x1 and saying o it has a better line up theres only about 4-5 games thats prolly exclusive the rest is multiplat same with sony but they have whole lot to offer! DayZ coming to ps4 warframe u have outlast and u have dc universe u have planetside 2 and h hour with socom
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Twitch, video editing, HDMI in, voice control. Probably missing a ton of stuff since not everything has been revealed. :lol: Twitch, video editing?! it comes with Kinnect Motion control.[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]More features? :| Beside anything related to a TV,what's left?I_can_haz
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]Nope. Go buy a PS4 and be happy. Hope you enjoy it as much as I will the Xbox One. lol :P Point is, there is no "in my eyes" when talking about hardware. Software and games sure, but hardware? No.Stop it
Chutebox
you know youre arguuing against a brick wall, right?
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:lol: Twitch, video editing?! it comes with Kinnect Motion control.Even more lol worthy :lol:[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] Twitch, video editing, HDMI in, voice control. Probably missing a ton of stuff since not everything has been revealed. TheOwnerOner
Point is, there is no "in my eyes" when talking about hardware. Software and games sure, but hardware? No.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="shawn30"] Nope. Go buy a PS4 and be happy. Hope you enjoy it as much as I will the Xbox One. lol :PZaibach
you know youre arguuing against a brick wall, right?
Not gonna kick him when he's down.X1: better lineup of games better controller more featuresShoulderOfOrion
1. subjective
2. Subjective (hell, most havent even held the PS4 controller on their hands)
3. I'm not sure about that one. Features? Like TV? Oh boy... :roll:
lems... :roll:
Too boring. I'll stick with the X1. Better games and better controller ftw!percechlol better gamers? u mean crappy killer instinct that not even made by rare..or all those fps games that is repetitive and boring..Sony got a variety Killzone Knack, Infamous Son, and etc..Also all those indie amazing games coming to the PS4.... just like last gen how they killed MS with exclusive games its going to happen again..
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]
Takes a special kind of dumbass to pay more for less.
Thank you Sony.
Obviously_Right
Wow. Second "dumbass" comment. You cows must really be getting worried about the XB1. Those new sales figures baking your little noodles, huh?
What sales figures? :lol:
IDK, the article yesterday that said the XB1 was the top seller on Amazon now. I am not saying it is outselling the PS4 (the PS4 has multiple SKUs), but it's sales are doing better.
X1: better lineup of games better controller more features PS4: slightly faster hardware I'd go with the X1. ShoulderOfOriongood luck m$ can kill are your games with a simple update..drm still exist with the xboners..they not going to release a patch right away..its going to take time..the line up sucks too..only game i see me wanting to play is dead rising..dont matter anyways capcom can always release a definite version call it something else and put it the PS4....The controllers looks the same nothing different..just a few touch up..lol...thats why on amazon PS4 controllers is outselling the xboner controllers..
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
3SidedSquare
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]X1: better lineup of games better controller more features PS4: slightly faster hardware I'd go with the X1. stayhigh1good luck m$ can kill are your games with a simple update..drm still exist with the xboners..they not going to release a patch right away..its going to take time..the line up sucks too..only game i see me wanting to play is dead rising..dont matter anyways capcom can always release a definite version call it something else and put it the PS4....The controllers looks the same nothing different..just a few touch up..lol...thats why in amazon PS4 controllers is outselling the xboner controllers..
I think you are still high. The "connect to the internet at set up" issue with the XB1 is a patch to remove the DRM.
[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
StormyJoe
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
just go with ps4 and pc and your all set..no need for the xboner dont support a company that spit on gamers face and backtrack due to low preorder sales[QUOTE="StormyJoe"][QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
stayhigh1
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
just go with ps4 and pc and your all set..no need for the xboner dont support a company that spit on gamers face and backtrack due to low preorder salesSo, I need two separate platforms to compete with the XB1? Is that what you are telling me? XB1 = PS4 + PC?
[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
StormyJoe
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
i can provide that link for u but not till 2morrow its timed exclusive
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
Whiteknight19
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
i can provide that link for u but not till 2morrow its timed exclusive
Yeah. I want to see it. I even googled and bing'ed "Titanfall PS4" and got nothing.
[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
StormyJoe
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/06/respawns-titanfall-leaks-online-xbopc-timed-exclusive/http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=578141
Looks like the Game Informer leak reveals it.
[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
Wow. Second "dumbass" comment. You cows must really be getting worried about the XB1. Those new sales figures baking your little noodles, huh?
StormyJoe
What sales figures? :lol:
IDK, the article yesterday that said the XB1 was the top seller on Amazon now. I am not saying it is outselling the PS4 (the PS4 has multiple SKUs), but it's sales are doing better.
http://news.yahoo.com/xbox-one-preorders-jump-past-playstation-4-microsoft-142532847.html
[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]
Only a dumbass would pay $100 more for weaker hardware.
Scipio8
Only a dumbass will pay $60 for PSN
I guess so considering it costs $50.
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
I'm so glad that all of you lemmings have played with both controllers and can declare that the Xbone's is better.
Also, what besides Forza and Halo do you have to include with your "better exclusives?"
Also, Titanfall is a timed exclusive so it doesn't count. ;)
3SidedSquare
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/06/respawns-titanfall-leaks-online-xbopc-timed-exclusive/http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=578141
Looks like the Game Informer leak reveals it.
Pre-E3 rumor. At E3: PC, XBox 360, XboxOne. No PS3...
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]
What sales figures? :lol:
StormyJoe
IDK, the article yesterday that said the XB1 was the top seller on Amazon now. I am not saying it is outselling the PS4 (the PS4 has multiple SKUs), but it's sales are doing better.
http://news.yahoo.com/xbox-one-preorders-jump-past-playstation-4-microsoft-142532847.html
I'd be wary of anything saying X is better selling than X on Amazon because they update the list hourly. So it could change each hour, but what the article doesn't really point out is that the Xbox One pre-orders for that hour were No. 1, while PS4 has 5 console bundles in the Top 25 for that hour. Unless we know the actual units sold, it means nothing really. Furthermore, PS4 is the second best selling gaming item of 2013 on Amazon behind a PSN card: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar, but it means nothing unless we really saw the numbers. It's just silly guesstimating to get people to click the link.http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/06/respawns-titanfall-leaks-online-xbopc-timed-exclusive/[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
Exactly where did you read that Titanfall was coming to the PS4?
StormyJoe
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=578141
Looks like the Game Informer leak reveals it.
Pre-E3 rumor. At E3: PC, XBox 360, XboxOne. No PS3...
Yeah, that's because Microsoft is paying for that timed exclusivity.It's the same way they get CoD maps before Sony.
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
IDK, the article yesterday that said the XB1 was the top seller on Amazon now. I am not saying it is outselling the PS4 (the PS4 has multiple SKUs), but it's sales are doing better.
LordOfPoms
http://news.yahoo.com/xbox-one-preorders-jump-past-playstation-4-microsoft-142532847.html
I'd be wary of anything saying X is better selling than X on Amazon because they update the list hourly. So it could change each hour, but what the article doesn't really point out is that the Xbox One pre-orders for that hour were No. 1, while PS4 has 5 console bundles in the Top 25 for that hour. Unless we know the actual units sold, it means nothing really. Furthermore, PS4 is the second best selling gaming item of 2013 on Amazon behind a PSN card: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar, but it means nothing unless we really saw the numbers. It's just silly guesstimating to get people to click the link.Read my previous comments. The fact is, the XB1 is selling better now.
I'd be wary of anything saying X is better selling than X on Amazon because they update the list hourly. So it could change each hour, but what the article doesn't really point out is that the Xbox One pre-orders for that hour were No. 1, while PS4 has 5 console bundles in the Top 25 for that hour. Unless we know the actual units sold, it means nothing really. Furthermore, PS4 is the second best selling gaming item of 2013 on Amazon behind a PSN card: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar, but it means nothing unless we really saw the numbers. It's just silly guesstimating to get people to click the link.[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
http://news.yahoo.com/xbox-one-preorders-jump-past-playstation-4-microsoft-142532847.html
StormyJoe
Read my previous comments. The fact is, the XB1 is selling better now.
For what it's worth, that Xbox 1 at No. 1 could be 100k units while those 5 PS4 skus could be 50k each. In that scenario, Xbox loses big. But, because we don't know, it really doesn't mean anything. All we know is that right now, people are pre-ordering one Xbox sku en masse, and so are people for five PS4 skus. The good for MS is at least it has a nice surge going right now.[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"] http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/06/respawns-titanfall-leaks-online-xbopc-timed-exclusive/
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=578141
Looks like the Game Informer leak reveals it.
3SidedSquare
Pre-E3 rumor. At E3: PC, XBox 360, XboxOne. No PS3...
Yeah, that's because Microsoft is paying for that timed exclusivity.It's the same way they get CoD maps before Sony.
When there is a publically acknowledged time-exclusive product, it is always announced as "first on Xbox" or "first on Playstation".
If I see them saying "coming to the PS4", then I will recant. As it is, at E3, they announced the platforms and the PS4 was not among them.
Yeah, that's because Microsoft is paying for that timed exclusivity.[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"]
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
Pre-E3 rumor. At E3: PC, XBox 360, XboxOne. No PS3...
StormyJoe
It's the same way they get CoD maps before Sony.
When there is a publically acknowledged time-exclusive product, it is always announced as "first on Xbox" or "first on Playstation".
If I see them saying "coming to the PS4", then I will recant. As it is, at E3, they announced the platforms and the PS4 was not among them.
Fair enough. When the Game Informer officially comes out I'm sure we'll see threads about it.Then we can go at each other again. ;)
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
[QUOTE="3SidedSquare"] Yeah, that's because Microsoft is paying for that timed exclusivity.
It's the same way they get CoD maps before Sony.
3SidedSquare
When there is a publically acknowledged time-exclusive product, it is always announced as "first on Xbox" or "first on Playstation".
If I see them saying "coming to the PS4", then I will recant. As it is, at E3, they announced the platforms and the PS4 was not among them.
Fair enough. When the Game Informer officially comes out I'm sure we'll see threads about it.Then we can go at each other again. ;)
Long as it's on Pc, that's all that matters. Dont need an X1 to play it and its not exclusive now. Getting it on PS4 is a bonus.[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]In what reality did the xbox show better games? the only good ones it had were also on PC....StormyJoe
Sooo. Then you need a PC and PS4 to match the XB1? XB1 = PS4 + PC?
No, but as the hermits here entering the "console" part of system wars why the hell would I choose the Xbox over a PS4 knowing that the PS4 will likely have games unavailable on PC? Infact, what did Xbox show taht was so "much more" than PS4? do list.[QUOTE="Wiiyou"]
But the console with most powerful hardware never wins anyway, Xbox 180 can still pwn Ps4 :)
AM-Gamer
Thats because in the past the most powerful hardware was more expensive, yet this time thats not the case.
What you say if MS lower the price to $399, much can happen before november
[QUOTE="StormyJoe"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"]In what reality did the xbox show better games? the only good ones it had were also on PC....MBirdy88
Sooo. Then you need a PC and PS4 to match the XB1? XB1 = PS4 + PC?
No, but as the hermits here entering the "console" part of system wars why the hell would I choose the Xbox over a PS4 knowing that the PS4 will likely have games unavailable on PC? Infact, what did Xbox show taht was so "much more" than PS4? do list.What exactly did the PS4 show? If we're talking E3 here, we had The Order and a bunch of indies, multiplats and then Knack, Killzone, Infamous and Drive Club that we seen in Feb.
Xbox showed Ryse (announced long ago, but this is the first time seeing it after the revamp), Dead Rising 3, D4, Sunset Overdrive, Halo, Forza 5, BlackTusk IP, Crimson Dragon, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct and then some indies too and multiplats.
Theres no doubt the Xbox had a better showing of games.
No, but as the hermits here entering the "console" part of system wars why the hell would I choose the Xbox over a PS4 knowing that the PS4 will likely have games unavailable on PC? Infact, what did Xbox show taht was so "much more" than PS4? do list.[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="StormyJoe"]
Sooo. Then you need a PC and PS4 to match the XB1? XB1 = PS4 + PC?
RR360DD
What exactly did the PS4 show? If we're talking E3 here, we had The Order and a bunch of indies, multiplats and then Knack, Killzone, Infamous and Drive Club that we seen in Feb.
Xbox showed Ryse (announced long ago, but this is the first time seeing it after the revamp), Dead Rising 3, D4, Sunset Overdrive, Halo, Forza 5, BlackTusk IP, Crimson Dragon, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct and then some indies too and multiplats.
Theres no doubt the Xbox had a better showing of games.
Theyre both completely unimpressive. NOTE: preference card? maybe ... but trying to be objective based on what I saw. Ryse looked awful..... Dead Rising 3 ok .... but looks brown and dull, dont care how many zombies on screen if the gameplay is meh. What is D4? Sunset overdrive... really? Halo .... 2-3 years from now? big whoop... thats like Sony going "oh hey, we might have more first party obvious additions in 2 years like Little Big Planet 3, Uncharted 4, Last of Us 2" ect .... they only showed it to build hype for a product not due for a very long time .... probably long after the next E3 in which it woudl of been revealed. Forza 5 - ok proven legit good game. against Killzone and Infamous. Blacktusk I,P - just like Halo mayaswell not been shown , means absolutely nothing. Crimson dragon looked like a bloody indie game... might of been good in its day.... but this is now. Killer instinct same as above, 2 cheap revived I.Ps for Microsoft to say "hey look... we care....... buy using money to ressurect 2 deadwater franchises that may pull some fools heart strings." Quantum Break - no gameplay information .... when is this even due? 1-2 years? There is no doubt both were mediocre but PS4 actually had 2 proven franchises against 1.[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]
[QUOTE="Wiiyou"]
But the console with most powerful hardware never wins anyway, Xbox 180 can still pwn Ps4 :)
Wiiyou
Thats because in the past the most powerful hardware was more expensive, yet this time thats not the case.
What you say if MS lower the price to $399, much can happen before november
lowering the price by $100 wont make the X1 as powerful as PS4, god damn, how dumb can you be to say that.if you said $299 then you would have something to start with, but for love of god, stop embarrasing your self in front of people here, except xbox fans cuz they are on the same level as you.
why are we talking about games now when each console is still far away, damn, stick to the subject, its about hardware.
[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] No, but as the hermits here entering the "console" part of system wars why the hell would I choose the Xbox over a PS4 knowing that the PS4 will likely have games unavailable on PC? Infact, what did Xbox show taht was so "much more" than PS4? do list.MBirdy88
What exactly did the PS4 show? If we're talking E3 here, we had The Order and a bunch of indies, multiplats and then Knack, Killzone, Infamous and Drive Club that we seen in Feb.
Xbox showed Ryse (announced long ago, but this is the first time seeing it after the revamp), Dead Rising 3, D4, Sunset Overdrive, Halo, Forza 5, BlackTusk IP, Crimson Dragon, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct and then some indies too and multiplats.
Theres no doubt the Xbox had a better showing of games.
Theyre both completely unimpressive. NOTE: preference card? maybe ... but trying to be objective based on what I saw. Ryse looked awful..... Dead Rising 3 ok .... but looks brown and dull, dont care how many zombies on screen if the gameplay is meh. What is D4? Sunset overdrive... really? Halo .... 2-3 years from now? big whoop... thats like Sony going "oh hey, we might have more first party obvious additions in 2 years like Little Big Planet 3, Uncharted 4, Last of Us 2" ect .... they only showed it to build hype for a product not due for a very long time .... probably long after the next E3 in which it woudl of been revealed. Forza 5 - ok proven legit good game. against Killzone and Infamous. Blacktusk I,P - just like Halo mayaswell not been shown , means absolutely nothing. Crimson dragon looked like a bloody indie game... might of been good in its day.... but this is now. Killer instinct same as above, 2 cheap revived I.Ps for Microsoft to say "hey look... we care....... buy using money to ressurect 2 deadwater franchises that may pull some fools heart strings." Quantum Break - no gameplay information .... when is this even due? 1-2 years? There is no doubt both were mediocre but PS4 actually had 2 proven franchises against 1.Dead Rising looked great.
D4 is Swery65s new game (Guy behind Deadly premonition which I loved).
Despite Fuse, I still love Insomniac so I do have a little faith in Sunset overdrive. It actually looked like an insomniac game which is awesome, and the concept is cool.
No, all these games are releasing in Year 1, remember? Halo is holiday 2014.
The BlackTusk IP is the only one I'm sceptical on about in terms of timeframe as all we got was like a 20 second trailer. Then again, they do still have a year and a half for it to still be a Year 1 title but we'll see.
Quantum Break, again a Year 1 title. And its Remedy. They don't need to show gameplay, it will be f*cking awesome :P
I couldn't care less about Killer Instinct or Crimson dragon. Ryse was pretty, but looked boring and lolcrytek.
But then look at what Sony showed. One new big game - The Order which we saw no gameplay or have any sort of timeframe as to when it will release. Clownzone looks like more Clownzone. Infamous looks awesome, but they didn't show any gameplay at the presentation. Same with Knack, and now that Ive seen gameplay of it I'm really disappointed. No real platforming. And Evolution are an average developer. I'll try out Drive Club but only because its free on PSN+.
Neither lineup was really strong, but I definitely think MS had a better showing.
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