GameSpot is Just Simply Not Credible and Inconsistent

What the hell is GameSpot thinking giving MGS4 a 10.

The game is in no way 'perfection'.

The stealth mechanics are pretty much the same as its predecessor. You have the camo and have a percentage of how well you are seen. Additional items and your "Camo-suit" that contribute more to stealth don't do much more to make it different.

The gameplay is a little more refined allowing you to have full control of the camera. Being able to customize your guns is nice, but it's been done before as well as the "money/merchant system" *cough* RE4 *cough*

The story telling is still top notch, but the same thing as other MGS titles. As I believe Kojima said roughly, "If you don't like the previous installments, MGS4, won't change your mind" or something to that affect.

Now please, I'm aware that the MGS/Sony fanboys will be here soon, but let me tell you, I'm not bashing MGS4, just the ridiculousness and inconsistency of the GameSpot reviewing staff. I'm sick that they pick and choose which games (pretty much sequels) that they want to decide if they will dub it a masterpiece or more of the same (Twilight Princess debacle anyone?).

I don't even know why people here care about GameSpot's scores so much anyway (And don't give me that 'WELL THIS IS GAMESPOT FORUMS!1! - play the game yourself and form your own damn opinion rather than being told what's "better"). Especially Sony fanboys bragging that they have the first AAAAE somehow making their system so much better and justifying why it's got better games because of such a meaningless score (reminds me when the SMG won GOTY).

*sigh*

/end rant

This place sucks now - and to prove it, see how long this thread lasts.

...And don't get me started on GTA4

Actually what's sad is how the cows claimed this site was biased and unreliable and now try to use that score as ownage. They claim that MS paid GS off to inflate both Gears of War and Halo 3. So how do we know Sony didn't pay them off to obviously inflate MGS4?

Actually what's sad is how the cows claimed this site was biased and unreliable and now try to use that score as ownage. They claim that MS paid GS off to inflate both Gears of War and Halo 3. So how do we know Sony didn't pay them off to obviously inflate MGS4?

AlphaGamer469

hahahahah i lol'd at your sig

The two biggest game review sites on the internet both gave this game a 10 (IGN,Gamespot)

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The two biggest game review sites on the internet both gave this game a 10 (IGN,Gamespot)

/thread

micky4889

Actually its not end thread. What a foolish thing to post.

I completely agree... I loved MGS4, but it shouldn't have scored a 10. It just has two many things that are considered flaws by most of the gaming populace.

In the defense of GS, IGN and several other sites gave MGS4 a 10 too.

The game is in no way 'perfection'.

Additional items and your "Camo-suit" that contribute more to stealth don't do much more to make it different.

The story telling is still top notch, but the same thing as other MGS titles.

play the game yourself and form your own damn opinion

Baird-06

So you state you're opinion as facts and then tell us to form our own opinion.

Consistancy FTL.

Actually what's sad is how the cows claimed this site was biased and unreliable and now try to use that score as ownage. They claim that MS paid GS off to inflate both Gears of War and Halo 3. So how do we know Sony didn't pay them off to obviously inflate MGS4?

AlphaGamer469

And lemmings claimed it to be reliable and now they use gamerankings ;)

It works both ways.

Rule of Thumb, if GS gives a game 10, reduce the score by -2 and you will get a more accurate picture. I find that games that score 8-9 on GS consistently better than their 10 bretherens. After all, what is the difference between a 9 and a 10 game? That +1 is for hype.hamidious

That makes no sence so if a game gets a 9 you should -2 to get "a more accurate picture" so that puts games like halo and gears in the 7 range???

If a game gets a 9 -1 point for hype so its really an 8 ???? WTF

[QUOTE="micky4889"]

The two biggest game review sites on the internet both gave this game a 10 (IGN,Gamespot)

/thread

6matt6

Actually its not end thread. What a foolish thing to post.

hehe I know, what they're basically saying when they do that "/thread" nonsense is, they hope nobody comes up with a reply to show them up.

Somewhat agree. :?

Doesn't matter too much to me personally as I evaluate games for myself but it sure does sorta ruin SW as these scores given are 90% of the criteria debates are won or loss on making many comparisons invalid if you ask me.

One of the 10's seems almost legit ( 9 - 9.5 ) but the other - not so much.

Actually what's sad is how the cows claimed this site was biased and unreliable and now try to use that score as ownage. They claim that MS paid GS off to inflate both Gears of War and Halo 3. So how do we know Sony didn't pay them off to obviously inflate MGS4?

AlphaGamer469

That's the best point I've seen on this general subject of "GS scores do/don't count". Either the Halo 3, Gears, and MGS4 scores ARE ALL valid here, or NONE of them are. Can't have it both ways.

Yea that guy just basically summed up my point about most of the MS games that was being rated on here lol. There is no way a game that scored a 9.5 on here can have a 7.5 user review after 1700 votes on metacritic without being overly scored.

I had only played the first MGS game from the ps1 and I loved mgs4 and couldn't get enough of it and its world. The only thing I found that I didn't like was the loads during the chase scenes. But all of the other stuff was just so good that it out weighd that. And also the game totally went to the awesome side once act 3 started and it never backed down til the end. So a 10 for MGS was very deserving from my point of view and no less than a 9.5.

Um... I dont know where you've been TC but I'm pretty sure most GS credibility was shot to bits when Jeff Gerstman got the boot after Kayne and Lynch review.

Leave it to a high review score for a quality game to make someone in System Wars question GS's credibility... :roll:

A 10 is not perfect, and GS is actively trying to be more casually focused in its reviews, so expect higher scores.

Why complain about it? They are just reviews.

heres how it works.

old rating system mgs4 probly a 9.5

new system 10.0

gears old rating system 9.6

new 10.0

guess what the new system screws things up this gen. not just with gs but ign and others too.

cows can say what they want but they cant deny that mgs4 only got AAAA because of the new rating system.

no i'm not a lemming so dont pull that fanboy crap you cows.

heres how it works.

old rating system mgs4 probly a 9.8

new system 10.0

gears old rating system 9.6

new 9.5

guess what the new system screws things up this gen. not just with gs but ign and others too.

cows can say what they want but they cant deny that mgs4 only got AAAA because of the new rating system.

no i'm not a lemming so dont pull that fanboy crap you cows.

adman66

fixed

Famitsu: 40/40PS_Family

What the hell is GameSpot thinking giving MGS4 a 10.

The game is in no way 'perfection'.

The stealth mechanics are pretty much the same as its predecessor. You have the camo and have a percentage of how well you are seen. Additional items and your "Camo-suit" that contribute more to stealth don't do much more to make it different.

The gameplay is a little more refined allowing you to have full control of the camera. Being able to customize your guns is nice, but it's been done before as well as the "money/merchant system" *cough* RE4 *cough*

The story telling is still top notch, but the same thing as other MGS titles. As I believe Kojima said roughly, "If you don't like the previous installments, MGS4, won't change your mind" or something to that affect.

Now please, I'm aware that the MGS/Sony fanboys will be here soon, but let me tell you, I'm not bashing MGS4, just the ridiculousness and inconsistency of the GameSpot reviewing staff. I'm sick that they pick and choose which games (pretty much sequels) that they want to decide if they will dub it a masterpiece or more of the same (Twilight Princess debacle anyone?).

I don't even know why people here care about GameSpot's scores so much anyway (And don't give me that 'WELL THIS IS GAMESPOT FORUMS!1! - play the game yourself and form your own damn opinion rather than being told what's "better"). Especially Sony fanboys bragging that they have the first AAAAE somehow making their system so much better and justifying why it's got better games because of such a meaningless score (reminds me when the SMG won GOTY).

*sigh*

/end rant

This place sucks now - and to prove it, see how long this thread lasts.

...And don't get me started on GTA4

Baird-06

26 websites and magazines gave it a 10. If this isn't enough indication for u that MGS4 deserved a 10 then i don't know what is.

Link http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/metalgearsolid4gunsofthepatriots?q=metal%20gear

GTA4 got a 10 here :? that game is pathetic.

but what's odd is:

lem - OMG rachetty clank got a 7.5!!!!! FLOOOOOOOOOP

cow - ~NO WAI GS is biased we use gamerrankings now

*some months later*

cow - OMG OMG MGS4 AAAAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /orgasm

lem - PAH! but oon metacritic it has TEH 92!!!!!! FAIL! MOAR OPINIONS = betters

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cow - BAHAHAHA you lems have to PAY for online!!!!1 OWNED

lem - so what XBL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PSN enjoy your crapfest you get what you pay for

*MAG and QORE require subscription*

cow - OMG WOWZOR WE GUTZ 256 playrz!!!!!

lem - you were saying about paying online?

Never played MGS4, but the GTA4 score made me totally distrust everyone who gave it a 10. The game is a 9 at best. Vice City with sh!!!! next gen graphics and less fun. Especialyl considering how there are 100 and 1 GTA style games so the concept isn't new and revolutionary anymore.

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]

Actually what's sad is how the cows claimed this site was biased and unreliable and now try to use that score as ownage. They claim that MS paid GS off to inflate both Gears of War and Halo 3. So how do we know Sony didn't pay them off to obviously inflate MGS4?

AdobeArtist

That's the best point I've seen on this general subject of "GS scores do/don't count". Either the Halo 3, Gears, and MGS4 scores ARE ALL valid here, or NONE of them are. Can't have it both ways.

Its hypocricy both ways, Sony fanboys that claimed GS is biased shouldnt not be the same people bragging about the AAAAE but MS fanboys who went out of their way to pound into their heads that "we live and breathe by GS's scores" should also not be complaining when Sony fans use it.

The problem is that people are just generalizing a whole group of gamers by a few fanboys.

This place sucks now - and to prove it, see how long this thread lasts.

...And don't get me started on GTA4

Baird-06