GameSpot overrates achievements

[QUOTE="mgszelda1"]To me achievements r pointless. All it does is say look I have less of a life. Dont take that in a wrong way but I just dont get the point in bragging about it Gamer556

Please, don't start with the "I have a life" crap. You're posting on a video game forum. Brag about your social qualities somewhere else.

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"][QUOTE="sdifjds"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="sdifjds"]For something that has absolutely no impact on quality of Game, GameSpot sure seems to mention achievements in reviews a whole lot. Look what they said about Ninja Turtles The Good: Online co-op play for up to four players that's legitimately fun; all the original music and voice effects are here; solid achievements list; it's only $5. Solid achievement list? I believe that is code for, "Easy Gamerscore boost" Who cares? Honestly? We all know Gertsmann is in love with his Gamerscore to the point which he files a points report every week. Achievements aren't important to me GameSpot.RichieRich555

Well, it is to them, so they're going to write about it.

of course. It adds to the value of the game.

you play more to get them. You play more=replay value.

Achievements are cool, if there done right. I think multiplayer ones are even better, but I wouldnt say achievements are selling points, and since they dont hurt the score, why should they help it? Kind of unfair... Whats next, raising a PS3 game because it has a cool looking trophy? coolguy1111

To me achievements r pointless. All it does is say look I have less of a life. Dont take that in a wrong way but I just dont get the point in bragging about it mgszelda1

we sit for hours playing video games, running around with master chief killing aliens, running around with mario collecting coins, playing games like GTA and having fake sex with hookers in cars, and you want to come in here and say that liking achievements means you have no life?

something there doesnt make sense....

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]achievements add replay value and extend the life of the game. nuff said.sdifjds

I think they are a factor in replay value. No amount of points will make me play pd0. I put that game in and promptly took it out. Tried to play it later and still couldnt take it. Want another example? I bought oblivion. Played it a little and now its collecting dust. Not to say I wont go back and play, I'm just not in a rush.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Achievements should not be considered in review scores.

sdifjds

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Achievements are cool, if there done right. I think multiplayer ones are even better, but I wouldnt say achievements are selling points, and since they dont hurt the score, why should they help it? Kind of unfair... Whats next, raising a PS3 game because it has a cool looking trophy? sdifjds

Everyone gives too much praise to achievements. But still, it's a pretty good feature. I like it most, because I can see what games other people play and to what degree do they play them. My only complaint is that some people focus too much on achievements. For example, one of my friends asks me to play every mode with him on R6V just to get an achievement. It's sort of annoying when people go out of their way just for points. But, on the other hand it does give a bit more value to the game you've purchased.
BillGreen68

so your friend asking you to play a game is annoying. your friend actually wants to play the game, he will experience everything the game has to offer and he can thank achievements for that.

now I understand if he wanted to do cheap things to get them, lets say for example, if he asked you to let him kill you ten times in a row to get an achievement, then yes you have a complaint. but to actually play the game and enjoy it the way it was meant to be is nothing to complain about.

my friend wanted to play Gears of War and wanted me to serve so he could get the Dominic achivement, for those who don't know. its helping someone else finish the game with one of the AI characters. How could I possibly complain about that?

[QUOTE="sdifjds"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Achievements should not be considered in review scores.

killtactics

[QUOTE="Brooklyn2700"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

Achievements should not be considered in review scores.

sdifjds

Why not? Its part of the game. It extends the life of some games. Gives some people goals beyond beating the game. Everytime I play gears someone is talking about getting an achievement.

can you please show me a review that says a game is terrible but worth playing multiple times because of the Achievements.

not trying to start anything, just curious if there has been a review that says so.

[QUOTE="mgszelda1"]To me achievements r pointless. All it does is say look I have less of a life. Dont take that in a wrong way but I just dont get the point in bragging about it LEGEND_C4A

we sit for hours playing video games, running around with master chief killing aliens, running around with mario collecting coins, playing games like GTA and having fake sex with hookers in cars, and you want to come in here and say that liking achievements means you have no life?

something there doesnt make sense....

ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
TheJustin

[QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
coolguy1111

From my experience, the people who complain about Achievments are usually the one's who dont have them or an Xbox 360. 

Achievments are fun to get, if you don't lke them don't go for them.  But a unified Achievment list for games is innovative and fun for many.

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
TheJustin

Here`s a good idea instead of getting a stupid achievement point for 100 headshots why not give me a new weapon or charactermgszelda1

Achievement points are ok IMO, but I hate when they add the achievement play some many online Matches I played Tony Hawk Project 8 and one of the achievements was to play 100 online Matches I didn't even play one match because everyone playing that game online were annoying and I left before I started because I had to wait a long time in the Pre game lobby and I couldn't stand the other players.

Achievement points are ok IMO, but I hate when they add the achievement play some many online Matches I played Tony Hawk Project 8 and one of the achievements was to play 100 online Matches I didn't even play one match because everyone playing that game online were annoying and I left before I started because I had to wait a long time in the Pre game lobby and I couldn't stand the other players.

Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
coolguy1111

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
TheJustin

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Achievement points are ok IMO, but I hate when they add the achievement play some many online Matches I played Tony Hawk Project 8 and one of the achievements was to play 100 online Matches I didn't even play one match because everyone playing that game online were annoying and I left before I started because I had to wait a long time in the Pre game lobby and I couldn't stand the other players.

-=XBoXDemon=-

[QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
coolguy1111

[QUOTE="-=XBoXDemon=-"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Achievement points are ok IMO, but I hate when they add the achievement play some many online Matches I played Tony Hawk Project 8 and one of the achievements was to play 100 online Matches I didn't even play one match because everyone playing that game online were annoying and I left before I started because I had to wait a long time in the Pre game lobby and I couldn't stand the other players.

Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
coolguy1111

A good set of achievements definitely can add to the enjoyment you get out of a game. Good achievements become mini-goals that you try to achieve while playing the game. To say that it is only for people finishing games or the hardcore gamers are quite frankly stupid. I rarely finish any games and i still think it is quite fun to try to get some of the more corny achievements some games have. Crackdown ahve some really funny ones. And one I still seem never to be able to get is the Pacifier achievement in Geometry wars.

You can view achievements in many ways. As I mentioned above as mini-goals but also in some ways "bragging-rights". getting a hard-to-achieve achievement to me gives me a feeling of accomplishing something even though I know I never will finish the game.

That doesn't mean that everyone will care about them but just because you don't doesn't mean no-one else does. So yes, I think a good set of achievements definitely could tilt the score a bit higher just as crappy achievements might tilt it negatively.

As for GameSpot and Throphys. If it is similar I see no reason why they should not value them as well.

achievements add replay value and extend the life of the game. nuff said.MADVLAD123

achievement points are a waste of time only sought out by those with no life and a low self esteem.. much like the kids how tried to catch all the pokemon.

achievements add replay value and extend the life of the game. nuff said.MADVLAD123

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]achievements add replay value and extend the life of the game. nuff said.Narroo

For something that has absolutely no impact on quality of Game, GameSpot sure seems to mention achievements in reviews a whole lot. Look what they said about Ninja Turtles The Good: Online co-op play for up to four players that's legitimately fun; all the original music and voice effects are here; solid achievements list; it's only $5. Solid achievement list? I believe that is code for, "Easy Gamerscore boost" Who cares? Honestly? We all know Gertsmann is in love with his Gamerscore to the point which he files a points report every week. Achievements aren't important to me GameSpot. and do not affect the game in any way. They should not be factored into your reviews.sdifjds

achievement points are a waste of time only sought out by those with no life and a low self esteem.. much like the kids how tried to catch all the pokemon.

frankeyser

Sounds like Sour Grapes! :lol:

Achievement Unlocked!

I love achievements  because they add to the game and it makes you work little harder then you would without them.

[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="mgszelda1"]To me achievements r pointless. All it does is say look I have less of a life. Dont take that in a wrong way but I just dont get the point in bragging about it mgszelda1

we sit for hours playing video games, running around with master chief killing aliens, running around with mario collecting coins, playing games like GTA and having fake sex with hookers in cars, and you want to come in here and say that liking achievements means you have no life?

something there doesnt make sense....

ok you are right, playing a game a lot and getting all the achievements doesn't mean you are good at it, but since when do we have to prove how good we are, just like someone said before, we pay 60 bucks for these games, you can play a game and get achievements with out even trying, just play the game, but when you are done with the game, you can always go back and try to get achievements you didn't get before. a game within a game. anything that adds replay value to a game should be talked about in reviews.

[QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
coolguy1111

achievements and rankings are two different things, you don't get into the to 10 in anything becuase you have all the achivements, unless you are talking about the top ten in achievement points. and if thats what you are talking about, then whats wrong with that, 300-400 bucks on systems, 60 bucks on games, let people spend there time going for achievements if they feel like it.

[QUOTE="sdifjds"]For something that has absolutely no impact on quality of Game, GameSpot sure seems to mention achievements in reviews a whole lot. Look what they said about Ninja Turtles The Good: Online co-op play for up to four players that's legitimately fun; all the original music and voice effects are here; solid achievements list; it's only $5. Solid achievement list? I believe that is code for, "Easy Gamerscore boost" Who cares? Honestly? We all know Gertsmann is in love with his Gamerscore to the point which he files a points report every week. Achievements aren't important to me GameSpot.Gamer556

Well, it is to them, so they're going to write about it.

Achievement points are ok IMO, but I hate when they add the achievement play some many online Matches I played Tony Hawk Project 8 and one of the achievements was to play 100 online Matches I didn't even play one match because everyone playing that game online were annoying and I left before I started because I had to wait a long time in the Pre game lobby and I couldn't stand the other players.

Nintendo_Ownes7

here is a simple solution and I have no idea why I have to keep telling people this, if it bothers you waiting for people to start a game or people just simply annoy you, just serve your own game. pretty simple if you ask me, serve 100 games yourself, invite your friends which I assume you have, or weed out the people you don't want. there are thousands of jerks online no doubt, but there are more that are not. build a good friends list and you shouldn't have problems, so do that and Join me and others in gaming bliss.

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="TheJustin"]ok. If you go to mygamercard.net then go to leaderboards. There is a gamertag card there. With all the stats of everyone's achievements. Let's look shall we? http://www.mygamercard.net/leaderboard.php

Users: 1,032,532
Gamerscore: 3,335,937,818
Achievements: 116,669,143 All these numbers are still growing.

I think it's safe at this point to say that though achievements mean nothing to you. They do to other people. So I think gamespot is actually pretty right to comment on achievements. I do not think the total would be over 3 billion if only a minor amount of people cared.
-=XBoXDemon=-

exactly!

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]achievements add replay value and extend the life of the game. nuff said.frankeyser

achievement points are a waste of time only sought out by those with no life and a low self esteem.. much like the kids how tried to catch all the pokemon.

you have big Ba*** to talk like that about people who play video games, when you are a video gamer as well. the point of pokemon is to catch all of them.