Gamespot Q and A with Bioware about EA buyout. Sounds like they just sold out

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#51 mazdero
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[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="mijkil"]

Pre EA buyout - Mass Effects was a 360 exclusive, this kinda suggests some form of agreement was in place.

Now its certainly obvious that EA will be looking to put the game on other platforms given their record, but the possibilty of this depends entirley on what agreements MS has in place with Bioware.

Just because EA bought out Bioware, it doesnt mean that they can rip up existing contracts.

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MS already released a press release stating it won't effect the release of ME and that the future of ME is in the dark and they will have further discusions with EA later in the week(but EA won't budge cause MS isn't gonna pay them the 200 million they can make going multiplat. MS also stated that Mass Effect is owned by Bioware not MS.

Halo 3 has a legendary edition at 120 and a special edition at 70 bucks.

And it only got 300 million dollars on 2.4 million in sales.

Where did u get 200 million dollars from ur rear.

At most this game would cost Microsoft 100million tops for exclusive rights. THe franchise, EAs great relations with Microsoft, Biowares relations with Microsoft, the chances of the franchise being successful on the 360 anyway.

Splinter Cell Conviction isnt going to the PS3 and is exclusive to the 360 and PC. Because ubisoft sees no reason to make the game multiplat. Same with Haze being exclusive on PS3.

So why cant Mass Effect be exclusive. ANything is possible.

Microsoft is greedy, EA is greedy. Microsoft likes to spend moneey. EA likes money.
How is that a hard scenario to see. That same scenario has worked with Epic, Tecmo, take 2, Rockstar, etc.

tell me last time outside Battlefield (for pc)series did EA make an exclusive game to help a console? they don't do that your right EA loves money and MS would have to take a lose to pay EA enough money $60 x 4 million is what? 240 million dollars now 4 million is what ME would sell on the Xbox alone. Imagine another 4 million sales if you combine CP and PS3 sales. thats potentially another 240 million dollars ME can make of of just $60 copys. So your telling me MS is gonna give EA $240 million to keep ME 1 exclusive? why would they have to do that if it's already gonna come out first on the console and was gonna hit PC anyways. i don't see things changing i guess i'll wait till it's official and bump my threads when it is official and own everyone who disagrees with me.

this whole 3rd party exculsive thign is getting ridiculous on MS side SOny makes there own games so does Nintendo why can't MS spend that money they pay for timed exclusives and make there own studios and make there own games that way there no worries about key franchises going anywhere.

ME 1 is published by Microsoft. the contract for that game cant be breached wether EA likes it or not.

Thats the thing, the contract won't be breached. MS is not losing the rights to publish ME. They will be the publishers for the 360. BUT, that doesn't mean EA can't publish ME for other platforms. MS does not own the IP like they do Halo. Bioware owns the IP, and now EA does. EA likes money, and by your own admission, the game will not sell that well on the 360. EA is not going to let that ride. If it only sells 1 million on 360, then adding another million for PS3 doubles their profits. That is all EA is concerned with is the bottom line, the profits. I'm sure ME carries a hefty development price tag. EA wants to profit off this game.

I'm not saying it will go down this way, but it could. Even still, it would be at least a year before PS3 saw ME. Even if its a bad port, they will still make money off of it. Again, i am not saying this is what is going to happen. Honestly I don't care seeing as how I'll be playing it on 360.

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#52 RevenMan
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[QUOTE="RevenMan"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

EA is not as bad as it use to be IMO, besides EA sports that is.....

And nice to hear Dragon Age is still in devolement

Lonelynight

Actually they haven't changed a bit, from now on i expect bioware to put out unpolished and buggy games, still i may be wrong and i sure as hell hope i am. But think about it EA spends a crap load of money on bioware they sure as hell will expect to have their money as soon as possible and milk the bioware brand as much as possible, im sorry to say this but hope is not a factor in bussines.

EA has given so much cash so when bioware says they are preatty much independent thats all crap if it was like that EA wouldn't have even spend so much money, the fact is that EA now owns bioware. I hope i am wrong but looking at EA's past deals and reputation i highly doubt it.

I don't really know EA's history very well, but they left Crysis to Crytek, which I think is a good start

EA should just focus on marketing their games IMO and let the game devolepers handle the games themselves

EA's history is not good if you have the time look them up on wiki and the studios they have owned, some studios they owned had most of their staff fired or fell apart. But even putting that aside just look at them EA are people who want money so people can buy cheats for their games what does that tell you.

As much as i want to belive that EA have changed i just can't belive it and there are no facts to back up that claim im sorry but if the same happens to bioware like all the other studios ea has bought we will be seeing less quality and more quantity with countless expansions, the same engine used in all of the games, games released on every platform out there gba/xbox/ps2/xbox360/ps3 etc.

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#53 mingo123
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lol Mass Effect died before its release :lol: now the only thing that will happen to Mass Effect is that it will completely go multiplat and be horrible or just stop at the first and there will be no more......but really Mass Effect for 360 is suppose to be a trilogy so it might have a cliffhanger ending if you know what i mean and if there is no sequel to fill up that cliffhanger then i dont know.....xbox 360 mass effect fans got owned :D......Microsoft is losing everyone, first there own 1st party devs and now there 3rd party devs who before were guaranteed to make 360 exclusives like Mass Effect but not anymore
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So far the 1st part is still exclusive. Now if EA decides to make it multiplat, that's going to take a while & slow the process of sequals even more. It took them what, 4yrs to make ME? The engine & the whole 9was built for X360, now they would have to learn the inner-devils of the PS3 just to satisfy EA? That's F'n terrible!! EA better give them creative control and i say this with c0ws in mind, otherwise you will get craptastic ports. X360 to PS3 doesn't transition well....Even a PS3 dev said it's better for devs to go from PS3 to X360 with their ports for optimazation purposes. I dont know man...w/e R.I.P BioWare E M I N 3 M

Mass Effect will come to PC. but not ps3. It it was coming to ps3 it would be years before we see it, and by then there would be no point.

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#55 mwa
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[QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"]Sounds to me like the possibility of the ME trilogy being exclusive to X360 is still there. I personally believe MS will work something out with Eapeacebringer
people are in huge denial on this. they would ahve clearly said it's still an 360 exclusive. what they said is we still plan on releasing the trilogy on 360 they didn't say exclusive no ones arguing it's not gonna be on 360 it's about is it exclusive just admit it it's going Multiplat. there talking about EA's presidents"vision" that mans vision is for every console.

yeah the exclusivity is definitely in question now. i wouldn't say multiplat is confirmed, but i think the reason no one is willing to give a straight answer on this is that EA and MS are probably going through some intense negotiations as to what happens with the ME franchise and how much $$$ MS has to pony up in order to keep it exclusive

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lol Mass Effect died before its release :lol: now the only thing that will happen to Mass Effect is that it will completely go multiplat and be horrible or just stop at the first and there will be no more......but really Mass Effect for 360 is suppose to be a trilogy so it might have a cliffhanger ending if you know what i mean and if there is no sequel to fill up that cliffhanger then i dont know.....xbox 360 mass effect fans got owned :D......Microsoft is losing everyone, first there own 1st party devs and now there 3rd party devs who before were guaranteed to make 360 exclusives like Mass Effect but not anymoremingo123

Mass Effect is alredy finished and is coming out next month ea can't do anything to harm the game right now. Anyways im glad you are talking about your fanboysim but what im talking about here is not exclusivity or any crap like that what im talking about is that if EA do to bioware like they have done to every company they bought it would be bad for everyone. Think about it from now on pc/xbox360/ps3/wii bioware games will be worse if EA are true to their rep.

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EA's history is not good if you have the time look them up on wiki and the studios they have owned, some studios they owned had most of their staff fired or fell apart. But even putting that aside just look at them EA are people who want money so people can buy cheats for their games what does that tell you.

As much as i want to belive that EA have changed i just can't belive it and there are no facts to back up that claim im sorry but if the same happens to bioware like all the other studios ea has bought we will be seeing less quality and more quantity with countless expansions, the same engine used in all of the games, games released on every platform out there gba/xbox/ps2/xbox360/ps3 etc.

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We can only hope for the best, and Battlefield games on the PC stayed exclusive on the PC, unless you count the console spin offs

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#58 Nick-M40A3
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They can say whatever they like, they sold out and Mass effect will be the last great Bioware game. Just accept the truth and move on, Bioware is dead. Mass effect will become a lame trilogy that can be played on every platform including cell phones and Wii.
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lol Mass Effect died before its release :lol: now the only thing that will happen to Mass Effect is that it will completely go multiplat and be horrible or just stop at the first and there will be no more......but really Mass Effect for 360 is suppose to be a trilogy so it might have a cliffhanger ending if you know what i mean and if there is no sequel to fill up that cliffhanger then i dont know.....xbox 360 mass effect fans got owned :D......Microsoft is losing everyone, first there own 1st party devs and now there 3rd party devs who before were guaranteed to make 360 exclusives like Mass Effect but not anymoremingo123

reminds me of Starcraft. maybe a similar fate will happen to it.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="mijkil"]

Pre EA buyout - Mass Effects was a 360 exclusive, this kinda suggests some form of agreement was in place.

Now its certainly obvious that EA will be looking to put the game on other platforms given their record, but the possibilty of this depends entirley on what agreements MS has in place with Bioware.

Just because EA bought out Bioware, it doesnt mean that they can rip up existing contracts.

mazdero

MS already released a press release stating it won't effect the release of ME and that the future of ME is in the dark and they will have further discusions with EA later in the week(but EA won't budge cause MS isn't gonna pay them the 200 million they can make going multiplat. MS also stated that Mass Effect is owned by Bioware not MS.

Halo 3 has a legendary edition at 120 and a special edition at 70 bucks.

And it only got 300 million dollars on 2.4 million in sales.

Where did u get 200 million dollars from ur rear.

At most this game would cost Microsoft 100million tops for exclusive rights. THe franchise, EAs great relations with Microsoft, Biowares relations with Microsoft, the chances of the franchise being successful on the 360 anyway.

Splinter Cell Conviction isnt going to the PS3 and is exclusive to the 360 and PC. Because ubisoft sees no reason to make the game multiplat. Same with Haze being exclusive on PS3.

So why cant Mass Effect be exclusive. ANything is possible.

Microsoft is greedy, EA is greedy. Microsoft likes to spend moneey. EA likes money.
How is that a hard scenario to see. That same scenario has worked with Epic, Tecmo, take 2, Rockstar, etc.

tell me last time outside Battlefield (for pc)series did EA make an exclusive game to help a console? they don't do that your right EA loves money and MS would have to take a lose to pay EA enough money $60 x 4 million is what? 240 million dollars now 4 million is what ME would sell on the Xbox alone. Imagine another 4 million sales if you combine CP and PS3 sales. thats potentially another 240 million dollars ME can make of of just $60 copys. So your telling me MS is gonna give EA $240 million to keep ME 1 exclusive? why would they have to do that if it's already gonna come out first on the console and was gonna hit PC anyways. i don't see things changing i guess i'll wait till it's official and bump my threads when it is official and own everyone who disagrees with me.

this whole 3rd party exculsive thign is getting ridiculous on MS side SOny makes there own games so does Nintendo why can't MS spend that money they pay for timed exclusives and make there own studios and make there own games that way there no worries about key franchises going anywhere.

ME 1 is published by Microsoft. the contract for that game cant be breached wether EA likes it or not.

Thats the thing, the contract won't be breached. MS is not losing the rights to publish ME. They will be the publishers for the 360. BUT, that doesn't mean EA can't publish ME for other platforms. MS does not own the IP like they do Halo. Bioware owns the IP, and now EA does. EA likes money, and by your own admission, the game will not sell that well on the 360. EA is not going to let that ride. If it only sells 1 million on 360, then adding another million for PS3 doubles their profits. That is all EA is concerned with is the bottom line, the profits. I'm sure ME carries a hefty development price tag. EA wants to profit off this game.

I'm not saying it will go down this way, but it could. Even still, it would be at least a year before PS3 saw ME. Even if its a bad port, they will still make money off of it. Again, i am not saying this is what is going to happen. Honestly I don't care seeing as how I'll be playing it on 360.

doubt it. Microsoft has this one on lockdown. a contract for the game was allready established. MS had this one setup. so if it succeeded they would just jump on board for number 2 and 3.

Now they obviousaly got a monkey wrench thrown into that but the PS3 multiplat for 1 isnt happening. The contract for that game is set. EA can not breach that contract, its a prior contract that EA must allow to be fullfilled.

ME 2 and 3 are up in the air. but ME is exclusive to 360 at worst will be on PC.
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#61 Lonelynight
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They can say whatever they like, they sold out and Mass effect will be the last great Bioware game. Just accept the truth and move on, Bioware is dead. Mass effect will become a lame trilogy that can be played on every platform including cell phones and Wii.Nick-M40A3

EA owns Dice, and all the battlefield games are great

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#62 RevenMan
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[QUOTE="RevenMan"]

EA's history is not good if you have the time look them up on wiki and the studios they have owned, some studios they owned had most of their staff fired or fell apart. But even putting that aside just look at them EA are people who want money so people can buy cheats for their games what does that tell you.

As much as i want to belive that EA have changed i just can't belive it and there are no facts to back up that claim im sorry but if the same happens to bioware like all the other studios ea has bought we will be seeing less quality and more quantity with countless expansions, the same engine used in all of the games, games released on every platform out there gba/xbox/ps2/xbox360/ps3 etc.

Lonelynight

We can only hope for the best, and Battlefield games on the PC stayed exclusive on the PC, unless you count the console spin offs

Like i said right now i really don't care about exclusivity, i know its hard to belive since this is system wars and all but i have been a bioware fan since baldurs gate. What i care about now is what will happen to the quality of their games, if i had to choose between all bioware games coming to ps3 instead of ea buying them i would gladly choose the ps3 over EA.