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#101  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Well, looks like I'll be getting it for PC. That way I can just buy a Steam key when it's like 5 bucks or less, lol.

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#102  Edited By Skelly34
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LOL

Not buying this crap for quite a while then. I never believe bullshit 10/10 reviews anyway, bunch of money pocketing journalists.

Glad Gamespot pointed this shit out, sad no one listened.

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#103 MonkeyDot
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People are really ignoring this because the game is great. Konami are probably doing this because it's their last Kojima game.

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#104  Edited By cyclops10
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@GhoX said:

No matter how good the game is, practice like this is utterly disappointing.

GOTY my ass. Witcher 3 takes the top spot by far now.

by far? lmao no. Dat reaching.

MGS5 has The Witcher 3 beat in pretty much every single aspect. Graphics, performance, presentation, gameplay, combat, story and voice acting. The Witcher 3 has it beat in terms of side quest content and scope. I have played 50 hours of MGS5 and have encountered zero bugs. I have numerous side quests in the Witcher 3 that are unable to be completed due to quest breaking bugs and don't even get me started on how many times i have had to reload old save files. MGS5 runs at 60 fps, the console version of the Witcher 3 can barely manage 30 most of the time.

The Witcher 3 is a great game, Metal Gear Solid 5 is a masterpiece. And this is coming from someone who's actually played both games.

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#105 MonkeyDot
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@hernandezzzz said:

Well, looks like I'll be getting it for PC. That way I can just buy a Steam key when it's like 5 bucks or less, lol.

Doesn't PC also have the micro transactions?

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#106 joel_c17
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@charizard1605 said:

@joel_c17: It is my favorite game of all time bar none, so yeah, I do :)

I hope P5 is just as good - i have to admit im a lil worried with the theme being a bunch of kid rebels

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#107 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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@monkeydot said:
@hernandezzzz said:

Well, looks like I'll be getting it for PC. That way I can just buy a Steam key when it's like 5 bucks or less, lol.

Doesn't PC also have the micro transactions?

Yeah, but I'm not paying full price for this micro-shit-fest. Steam keys will start going around super cheap in no time, you can already get Mad Max for like 15 bucks...

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#108 MonkeyDot
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@hernandezzzz said:
@monkeydot said:
@hernandezzzz said:

Well, looks like I'll be getting it for PC. That way I can just buy a Steam key when it's like 5 bucks or less, lol.

Doesn't PC also have the micro transactions?

Yeah, but I'm not paying full price for this micro-shit-fest. Steam keys will start going around super cheap in no time, you can already get Mad Max for like 15 bucks...

yeah I guess so, but I don't really trust key sellers very much.

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#109  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@joel_c17 said:
@charizard1605 said:

@joel_c17: It is my favorite game of all time bar none, so yeah, I do :)

I hope P5 is just as good - i have to admit im a lil worried with the theme being a bunch of kid rebels

Well, P3 was amazing, P4 was amazing, and P5 looks like it is even more refined. I would not worry- these guys clearly know what they are doing!

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#110 MonkeyDot
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@93BlackHawk93 said:
@Chozofication said:

If I was a big MGS fan I would get it used

That's a good advice.

Too bad for PC

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#111 commander
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@charizard1605 said:

Gamespot had initially complained about the microtransaction pricing for the single player campaignof Metal gear Solid V; Konami had called Gamespot out and pointed out that Gamespot had been raising a ruckus for nothing.

Well, now the game is out, and we can all see, Gamespot was right.

According to the official MGSV guide, 'You must be online to build FOBs. Your first FOB is free of charge.

Additional FOBs must be purchased with MB Coins, acquired through microtransactions with real-life money.'

Online? Well, so this doesn't affect the single player mode, right?

Nope, it actually does affect single player as well.

FOBs let you earn resources for use in SP as well as dictate how many missions you can dispatch soldiers to, 1 FOB=2 active missions at once.

FOBs also help you bypass what is often dozens of hours of grinding near the endgame- from what I gather, to access the true ending, you need to have your Mother Base maxed out, and you can't do that either without dozens of hours of grinding, orpaying real world money.

So... **** Konami.

NeoGAF

pc gamers like... OOH REALLY?

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#112 Litchie
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Nice. A reason to pirate the game.

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#113 Netret0120
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@cainetao11 said:
@Netret0120 said:

I expected this from Konami. They won't get a bloody cent from me besides the price of the game itself. Microtransactions are for the rich. I understand not everyone has time to get the coins through playing but if that's the case, why do you have a GAME console in the first place?

That's a bit ridiculous. Like a person cant enjoy gaming unless they can grind it out on their ass. Not everyone wants to do that and they can spend their money instead. I wont but as the Pope said regarding LGBT, "who am I to judge?"

I said in my post that I understand people may not have the time to get coins through gaming and that's fine. I just disagree with microtransactions that make a game unbalanced and give people who buy them an unfair advantage online.

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#114 drinkerofjuice
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@Litchie said:

Nice. A reason to pirate the game.

Yeah, because that's not piss-poor logic at all.

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#115  Edited By cainetao11
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@Netret0120 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@Netret0120 said:

I expected this from Konami. They won't get a bloody cent from me besides the price of the game itself. Microtransactions are for the rich. I understand not everyone has time to get the coins through playing but if that's the case, why do you have a GAME console in the first place?

That's a bit ridiculous. Like a person cant enjoy gaming unless they can grind it out on their ass. Not everyone wants to do that and they can spend their money instead. I wont but as the Pope said regarding LGBT, "who am I to judge?"

I said in my post that I understand people may not have the time to get coins through gaming and that's fine. I just disagree with microtransactions that make a game unbalanced and give people who buy them an unfair advantage online.

So your post is a contradiction then. You say you understand that not all gamers make this their only hobby and don't have the time nor desire to grind it out, yet then ask why do they have a GAME console in the first place. Like I said, a bit ridiculous because its stating a false "I understand" and then asking why play games at all if you cant do it in the way you approve of.

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#116 speedfreak48t5p
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**** that shit. Good thing I wasn't going to buy the game anyway.

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#117  Edited By ShepardCommandr
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those can easily be bypassed on PC using a trainer or cheat engine combined with a modified .exe\

shouldn't really take long to make either....

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#118 Litchie
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@drinkerofjuice said:
@Litchie said:

Nice. A reason to pirate the game.

Yeah, because that's not piss-poor logic at all.

Not as piss poor as being assholes to customers. If they **** with me, I'll **** with them.

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#119 drinkerofjuice
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@Litchie: They're fucking with you because they have microtransactions that you're not at all forced or required to buy? Had it been otherwise, then you just may have had a point.

But you don't.

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#120 L0ngshot
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@l0ngshot said:

Luckily I held off preordering MSG V and was going to buy it today. Good that I stumbled on GS before that happened. The price of £50 made me hesitate a bit.

I'll hate the developers that ruin the single player experience like this.

Don't buy from Steam mate, Game Keys 4 all (I'm sure there are plenty of others) are selling it for 44.95 Euro (£33) I've been using them for most of my games in recent years and they have never let me down, the keys are legit and activate on Steam (or where ever) with no issues, it usually takes about 10 minutes for them to be emailed to you.

I've not posted a link because I'm not trying to advertise, it's just a good place to get games cheaply with no hassles.

Brilliant! I haven't bought it yet but I might if it only cost ~£30. Since you already have it, is it worth picking it up? How are you liking it so far?

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#121  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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If all the extra FOB's do is give me more resources and more bases for ppl to invade......then I don't see how this really affects me in single player.

I read somewhere in this thread that more FOB's allow for more missions?

Is that including single player missions at one time? Like the Side Opts? Like if I had 5 FOB's I could do 10 Side Opts at one time?

I'm so confused.

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#122 Bread_or_Decide
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13 hours in and I haven't seen a single microtransaction in the single player campaign.

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#123 GarGx1
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@l0ngshot said:
@GarGx1 said:
@l0ngshot said:

Luckily I held off preordering MSG V and was going to buy it today. Good that I stumbled on GS before that happened. The price of £50 made me hesitate a bit.

I'll hate the developers that ruin the single player experience like this.

Don't buy from Steam mate, Game Keys 4 all (I'm sure there are plenty of others) are selling it for 44.95 Euro (£33) I've been using them for most of my games in recent years and they have never let me down, the keys are legit and activate on Steam (or where ever) with no issues, it usually takes about 10 minutes for them to be emailed to you.

I've not posted a link because I'm not trying to advertise, it's just a good place to get games cheaply with no hassles.

Brilliant! I haven't bought it yet but I might if it only cost ~£30. Since you already have it, is it worth picking it up? How are you liking it so far?

I've not had a huge amount of time this week to play but I've spent enough to safely say, if you like stealth games with options then it pretty much a must buy. Using the mouse in menus is a bit of a chore and it always gives Xbox controller prompts. In game there are no issues what so ever with KB/M but keep a controller handy for the menus (or use the keyboard). I've got it maxed at 1440p and it never even flickers from 60 (max setting in the options) I haven't looked to see if I can unlock it in the game files yet.

The story is wtf? It is Metal Gear and Japanese after all and don't have a clue if, when or how it fits into the game lore. Tbh I'm not even sure if it has real relevance to the overall Metal Gear story and is just an alternative timeline thing.

Definitely a good game

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#124 L0ngshot
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@GarGx1 said:
@l0ngshot said:
@GarGx1 said:
@l0ngshot said:

Luckily I held off preordering MSG V and was going to buy it today. Good that I stumbled on GS before that happened. The price of £50 made me hesitate a bit.

I'll hate the developers that ruin the single player experience like this.

Don't buy from Steam mate, Game Keys 4 all (I'm sure there are plenty of others) are selling it for 44.95 Euro (£33) I've been using them for most of my games in recent years and they have never let me down, the keys are legit and activate on Steam (or where ever) with no issues, it usually takes about 10 minutes for them to be emailed to you.

I've not posted a link because I'm not trying to advertise, it's just a good place to get games cheaply with no hassles.

Brilliant! I haven't bought it yet but I might if it only cost ~£30. Since you already have it, is it worth picking it up? How are you liking it so far?

I've not had a huge amount of time this week to play but I've spent enough to safely say, if you like stealth games with options then it pretty much a must buy. Using the mouse in menus is a bit of a chore and it always gives Xbox controller prompts. In game there are no issues what so ever with KB/M but keep a controller handy for the menus (or use the keyboard). I've got it maxed at 1440p and it never even flickers from 60 (max setting in the options) I haven't looked to see if I can unlock it in the game files yet.

The story is wtf? It is Metal Gear and Japanese after all and don't have a clue if, when or how it fits into the game lore. Tbh I'm not even sure if it has real relevance to the overall Metal Gear story and is just an alternative timeline thing.

Definitely a good game

Cool. I just picked it up for £34 and got the activation code in 2 mins. Awesome thanks!

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#125 GarGx1
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@l0ngshot said:
@GarGx1 said:
@l0ngshot said:
@GarGx1 said:
@l0ngshot said:

Luckily I held off preordering MSG V and was going to buy it today. Good that I stumbled on GS before that happened. The price of £50 made me hesitate a bit.

I'll hate the developers that ruin the single player experience like this.

Don't buy from Steam mate, Game Keys 4 all (I'm sure there are plenty of others) are selling it for 44.95 Euro (£33) I've been using them for most of my games in recent years and they have never let me down, the keys are legit and activate on Steam (or where ever) with no issues, it usually takes about 10 minutes for them to be emailed to you.

I've not posted a link because I'm not trying to advertise, it's just a good place to get games cheaply with no hassles.

Brilliant! I haven't bought it yet but I might if it only cost ~£30. Since you already have it, is it worth picking it up? How are you liking it so far?

I've not had a huge amount of time this week to play but I've spent enough to safely say, if you like stealth games with options then it pretty much a must buy. Using the mouse in menus is a bit of a chore and it always gives Xbox controller prompts. In game there are no issues what so ever with KB/M but keep a controller handy for the menus (or use the keyboard). I've got it maxed at 1440p and it never even flickers from 60 (max setting in the options) I haven't looked to see if I can unlock it in the game files yet.

The story is wtf? It is Metal Gear and Japanese after all and don't have a clue if, when or how it fits into the game lore. Tbh I'm not even sure if it has real relevance to the overall Metal Gear story and is just an alternative timeline thing.

Definitely a good game

Cool. I just picked it up for £34 and got the activation code in 2 mins. Awesome thanks!

Glad I could help :)

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#126 L0ngshot
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@GarGx1 said:
@l0ngshot said:
@GarGx1 said:
@l0ngshot said:
@GarGx1 said:

Don't buy from Steam mate, Game Keys 4 all (I'm sure there are plenty of others) are selling it for 44.95 Euro (£33) I've been using them for most of my games in recent years and they have never let me down, the keys are legit and activate on Steam (or where ever) with no issues, it usually takes about 10 minutes for them to be emailed to you.

I've not posted a link because I'm not trying to advertise, it's just a good place to get games cheaply with no hassles.

Brilliant! I haven't bought it yet but I might if it only cost ~£30. Since you already have it, is it worth picking it up? How are you liking it so far?

I've not had a huge amount of time this week to play but I've spent enough to safely say, if you like stealth games with options then it pretty much a must buy. Using the mouse in menus is a bit of a chore and it always gives Xbox controller prompts. In game there are no issues what so ever with KB/M but keep a controller handy for the menus (or use the keyboard). I've got it maxed at 1440p and it never even flickers from 60 (max setting in the options) I haven't looked to see if I can unlock it in the game files yet.

The story is wtf? It is Metal Gear and Japanese after all and don't have a clue if, when or how it fits into the game lore. Tbh I'm not even sure if it has real relevance to the overall Metal Gear story and is just an alternative timeline thing.

Definitely a good game

Cool. I just picked it up for £34 and got the activation code in 2 mins. Awesome thanks!

Glad I could help :)

Jesus Christ mate. There are latest games that are approx £20 less than what it is advertised in steam. You just gave me gold mine. Thanks a bunch!

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#127 GarGx1
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@l0ngshot: It makes me laugh when people think that Steam sales are the be all and end all of PC games being far cheaper than the console versions.

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#128 L0ngshot
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@GarGx1: Yeah. I didn't knew about this. I've used GoG for old games and GMG once. But this takes the cake. Just bought mad max for £13 lol.

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#129 MlauTheDaft
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Huh... I have'nt even noticed there were any microtransactions yet.... Guess I was too busy grinding Side Ops and stuff. It does slow down a lot once Your entire base is lvl 2+

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#130 GarGx1
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@l0ngshot: and that's another game added to my ever increasing backlog :)

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So far it's the only blight on an otherwise excellent game, thankfully all optional, still bullshit no matter what way you look at it though

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#132 OhSnapitz
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Wow.. I've put about 5-7 hours into the game thus far and haven't run by ANY micro transactions.. but then again. I haven't went online with it. I always thought of MG as a single player experience.

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#133 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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@l0ngshot said:

Jesus Christ mate. There are latest games that are approx £20 less than what it is advertised in steam. You just gave me gold mine. Thanks a bunch!

Want another good one? g2play.

Been using them since 2012. Turn off community offers and don't buy Steam Gifts. Pay the 85 cents for buyer protection and I guarantee you'll get your key.

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#134  Edited By brimmul777
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I'll buy Halo 5 instead.

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#135  Edited By WilliamRLBaker
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laughably you all are buying MGS5 yet know what konami has become, how Konami has basically said **** the fans, **** the history of games, lets make mobile and pachinko games, oh and lets get rid of Kojima.

yet you all are still buying it, you are still lining Konami pockets with money, and shit Konami just started taking down peoples ran art of Konami properties.

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#136 OmegaTau
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We can only stand up to them when we don't buy games for awhile and put the industry on notice if we continue to be suckers and buy this crap by the millions the more they will push there creed on us

I'm calling for a Gamers UNION

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#137 Collie_Lover
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Gamers and critics are going to be struggling with the "value" of a game for years to come. One problem is if gamers are going to require games with the most expensive production costs, then producers/developers are going to have to find a way to get their money back. One of the ways is to use micro transactions.

For the sake of discussion, perhaps if a story game has at least 20 hours of play (or some other random number) or can be finished without a micro transaction after the initial purchase, it can be considered a complete game. Micro transactions after this amount of time are intended to extend the life of the game and add value to it.

Whether a micro transaction is considered an abuse or not in any given case will largely depend on the opinion of the gamer. Micro transactions do not have to automatically be bad things, if they are done in such a way that allows gamers to keep playing their favorite games through expansions instead of entire game sequels for example. Gaming can be made more affordable to the gamer if micro transactions are done properly, similar to how layaway makes a game more affordable by making small payments over time.

In my opinion, Activision, Disney Interactive, and Nintendo have found one way of using micro transactions that benefit both the producer/developer and the gamer. In these cases gamers feel that they are getting a fair deal for Skylanders, Disney Infinity figures, and Amiibo. Additionally, in these cases the gamer is getting a tangible figure.

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#138  Edited By Ghost120x
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I'm sure they will give away free MB coins every month when you start up the game so that's what I will wait for. I hate to see what MGO is like....

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#139  Edited By SexyJazzCat
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@WilliamRLBaker: I'll give them money for a good game.

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#140 Shrek
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Have to play Dark Souls for 80 hours to beat the main story and that's great. Expected to play Metal Gear Solid for 30 to get bonus true ending and everyone loses their mind.