Gamespot's Official Winner of E3

MS was the clear winner? I'm stunned.

Natal will fail. I'm not convinced Alan Wake is EVER coming out until I can actually hold it in my hands. Crackdown 1 was lame and I'm sick of Splinter Cell and Forza. Pass.savebattery

Yeah it was pretty clear MS won it. They did an awesome job.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Exclusives like Alan Wake and Splinter Cell conviction?Puckhog04

And then they lost credible PC reviews when Jason Ocampo left. :(

Man, if only the GS forums weren't so good. GS has gone downhill so much.

Yeah it was pretty clear MS won it. They did an awesome job.

Gamespot is owned by CNET, which is owned by Microsoft so what did you expect?

It's already been proven Gamespot is MS bias.

Everyone knows that when it comes to the games and exclusives PS3 won E3.

PCGamer248

Silly, CNet is a publicly held company. You're just beign a silly fanboy now.

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=259347

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

*sigh*Natal is fatally flawed without buttons. The Glow Sticks won the war for Sony.

hy4k

Big deal. The 360 camera is a copy of the ps eye toy... All companies copy each other, now stop mentioning it...

[QUOTE="PCGamer248"]

Gamespot is owned by CNET, which is owned by Microsoft so what did you expect?

It's already been proven Gamespot is MS bias.

Everyone knows that when it comes to the games and exclusives PS3 won E3.

Silly, CNet is a publicly held company. You're just beign a silly fanboy now.

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=259347

What are they smoking, if there were any losers Microsoft was the one. Though it could be because I don't consider L4D2, Alan Wake or SCC "exclusives".ManicAce

been spending too much time in SW i guess. in the real world they are console exclusives. the console and PC markets are very different beasts in terms of investors and business models. so i'd hazard to guess the real-world definition, and what real people outside SW use in their day-to-day lives, might trump what you've grown accustomed to in System Wars.

when people talk exclusives in the real world they generally, almost all the time in fact, are refering to 'console exclusive' as they are speaking about the console gaming industry.

it's really silly that SW isn't up to date with this stuff - they even refer to things as being console exclusive in GS articles these days. just a few posters in SW that would rather keep it the old way to try to win some stupid exclusivity count war - which is a stupid meta-game people play around here imho.

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[QUOTE="PCGamer248"]

Gamespot is owned by CNET, which is owned by Microsoft so what did you expect?

It's already been proven Gamespot is MS bias.

Everyone knows that when it comes to the games and exclusives PS3 won E3.

Zaistev_basic

Silly, CNet is a publicly held company. You're just beign a silly fanboy now.

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=259347

You do know the PS3 has two 10s, right?

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"][QUOTE="Ambli"]

Silly, CNet is a publicly held company. You're just beign a silly fanboy now.

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=259347

Silverbond

You do know the PS3 has two 10s, right?

Also, Jeff G's always use poor choice of word on reviewing which lead to his firing.

There are ways to make a negative review but not to the point when you act fanboyish and bashing the game itself, which is very unprofessional.

It tells you how he is easily distinguished differently from a consistent, credible, andprofessional reviewer like Greg K..

Xbox 360 and PC = exclusive. For anyone going "WTF?" over Splinter Cell and Alan Wake.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]They are both at the same level of quality. However, M+ is in final form, which means it cannot improve. The Glow Sticks are prototypes, which means they can and will.hy4k

I don't believe 1:1 can't be improved. The improvement might be miniscule, but we will notice.

Sony and Microsoft both did an amazing job. It showed me that both of these companies are in this for the win. At times while I was watching the Sony and Microsoft press briefings it was almost overwhelming. So many great games were demonstrated and/or announced.

Most places have been saying that, although they kind of took it as a whole package thing, not focusing as much on exclusives, still most sources agree Microsoft won.

Just for some reason System Wars is different, whether it's cow central, or because our rules somehow dictate what we think, that's just how it is here. Logic does not work here... But of course everyone argues that we are the logical ones...

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Exclusives like Alan Wake and Splinter Cell conviction?3picuri3

you're absolutly right.

everything the GS staff writes is sacred. they are to SW as muhhommed is to muslims. even if what they write makes absolutly no sense, and they constantly contridict themselves.

I don't believe 1:1 can't be improved. The improvement might be miniscule, but we will notice.

-Melix-

1:1 = 1:1. perfect motion control

the technology that the wii and ps3 wand use is pretty much the same and even if it wasn't you cant improve on perfect motion control. the only thing you can improve is the software

iirc the wii motion plus updates at 200hz. the ps3 wand faster than even that. both update faster than the human eye can see

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]I don't believe 1:1 can't be improved. The improvement might be miniscule, but we will notice.

hy4k

1:1 = 1:1. perfect motion control

the technology that the wii and ps3 wand use is pretty much the same and even if it wasn't you cant improve on perfect motion control. the only thing you can improve is the software

iirc the wii motion plus updates at 200hz. the ps3 wand faster than even that. both update faster than the human eye can see

They say M+ is 1:1, but to be honest, where is there 1:1 control to compare it to? And why did you change my username?>_>

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

Yeah it was pretty clear MS won it. They did an awesome job.

edo-tensei

Only mentioning new titles, and new features obviously...

not this agen :P

nintendos e3 pritty much showed the wiimote+ 1:1 and it looked very very much like sonys.

the archry looked way better, the nunchuck > 2 remotes

the sword fighting looked better

hmm why didnt they count left 4 dead 2 as exclusive then too? but yeah microsfot had a good conference, but i guess it all goes down to what each person was expecting to see. people saying sony won because they showed more games, people say microsoft won becuase they had a better presentation and showed off natal, so really it can go both ways depending on who you are.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Exclusives like Alan Wake and Splinter Cell conviction?IronBass

I think GS does not use the concept "system wars" but "console wars".

well given that the whole disscussion is based around what will MS, sony and nintendo bring to their platform that the other 2 won't, the term "exclusive" does kinda make sense in this context.

I hope next year the PCGA makes a conference of their own, but that probaly won't happen^^

I agree. I actually think PS3 will have the better year this year and possibly next year in terms of games and the like, but in terms of the best showing at E3, Microsoft was the winner.

Microsoft had the most entertaining show, I thought. But Sony and Nintendo both had way more in terms of games.

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It sounds like you just don't like this hobby anymore, no offense.

Screamteam411

My turn

Well it sounds to me like somebody only likes AAAA games

I agree. However, Microsoft and Sony were equally awesome; so I'd also agree with the latter winning E3 in the eyes of Gamespot.ToScA-

Both MS and Sony showed off alot of great stuff, but with for Microsoft it was alittle more entertaning and seems to be better flowing than the other two, that is why MS 'won' it in my eyes.

But the real winner is the gamers.

MS had the better presentation but that's a lame thing to argue in my opinion because I'm in it for the games and Sony delivered and showed off some amazing titles; many of them only on PS3.

Unlike the bs MS pulled where they decided to pretend that they were the only platform in the world and say it's exclusive because of that. :roll:

In the end I don't care who won E3, because amazing games were shown for all platforms and I'm going to enjoy my future gaming. =)

Microsoft E3 was good enough.

Especially someone should have measured the heartbeat of cows when MGS sound followed by "!" and kojima came on the stage.:P

No body knew at that time that it is MGS:Rising and not MGS4

If you put Bias aside and look at the facts, Sony had the better lineup of exclusive games shown and more games.

Gamespot is owned by CNET, which is owned by Microsoft so what did you expect?

It's already been proven Gamespot is MS bias.

Everyone knows that when it comes to the games and exclusives PS3 won E3.

PCGamer248

hmm funny when HW got 6.5 sony fanboys were quite fats to point out the imense credibility of gamespot over any other review site, what happened from then to now with GS any change in ownership I missed?

First time GS has ever got anything right. MS>Nintendo>Sony. Without a doubt.

CreepyBacon

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First time GS has ever got anything right. MS>Nintendo>Sony. Without a doubt.

GodofBigMacs

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="DonPerian"]Yes, in the real world, those games are considered exclusive to some degree. It's not just black and white.Javy03

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Exclusives like Alan Wake and Splinter Cell conviction?DarkerKamikaze

Alan Wake and Splinter Cell Conviction are both "Microsoft" exculsive I think I'm not sure though.

If winning E3 is determined by how much publicity and media hype you recieve then yes, Microsoft won. Natal is a big deal no matter how you look at it. And a good few games were announced as well.

Microsoft still have a long ways before they have a lineup as strong as Sony's though.

There are alot of hypocrites here.SparkyProtocol

Lol Thats sotrue :lol:

Damn right Gamspot.

That's pretty much how I feel.

While I wouldn't say MS was the clear winner of E3, their showing impressed me the most this year.

They say M+ is 1:1, but to be honest, where is there 1:1 control to compare it to? And why did you change my username?>_>
789shadow

there isn't 1:1 to compare it to. nintendo are the first to implement it. but if it can track every movement and it updates faster than the human eye can see then it is 1:1. like i explained in the other thread the PS3 wand is also 1:1 but it uses a different method. both methods have their ups and downs

dont know what happened with the username, sorry

Gamespot has already proven before that they're Microsoft fanboys, so this doesn't come as a surprise.

Brawl578

Im sick of this winner non-sense, its just stupid. I mean why cant we the gamers win, rather than a group of fanboys

Animal-Mother

I'm with you buddy, and this E3 more so than any other had all 3 companies bring their A game.

I thought Sony showed better exclusives than Microsoft...

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They say M+ is 1:1, but to be honest, where is there 1:1 control to compare it to? And why did you change my username?>_>
hy4k

there isn't 1:1 to compare it to. nintendo are the first to implement it. but if it can track every movement and it updates faster than the human eye can see then it is 1:1. like i explained in the other thread the PS3 wand is also 1:1 but it uses a different method. both methods have their ups and downs

dont know what happened with the username, sorry

If there is no 1:1 to compare it to, how do we know it's true 1:1?M+ could be nowhere near 1:1, but we won't know since there's no comparison.