Gamespot's R&C reviews hypocritical

One gets a 7.5 in 2007, the other an 8.5 in 2009. I've played and beat tools of destruction and played both demos of crank in time. They look and play exactly alike, and yet gamespot increases the review score when standards have gone up and yet Ratchet stays the same.

What standards? Its been 2 years, the standards for the almost dead action adventure genre have not gone up all that much. ACiT was simply thought to be better. That's it.

The fact that you say they are exactly the same is epic fail in the first place.

What standards? Its been 2 years, the standards for the almost dead action adventure genre have not gone up all that much. ACiT was simply thought to be better. That's it.

ActicEdge

Don't judge it on two demo's, And ACit IS a better game.

The fact that you say they are exactly the same is epic fail in the first place.

Espada12

Tools of Destruction deserved at least an 8, it was a great game. Lost Odyssey and Toools of Destruction are my two favorite 7.5 games ever...

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The fact that you say they are exactly the same is epic fail in the first place.

2-10-08

Do I have to? you said you played the demos and they were exactly the same to TOD.. that in itself is epic fail. The clank demo alone should have told you the game was different..

It depends either this game was better. But that would play work if it was the same reviewer for both games since everybody has different taste. If this is the same reviewer they thought ACiT was better the ToD. If it was a different reviewer and the games really didn't changed then it is the taste of this reviewer and he tought it was an 8.5 while the other reviewer thought ToD was a 7.5 out of 10.

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What standards? Its been 2 years, the standards for the almost dead action adventure genre have not gone up all that much. ACiT was simply thought to be better. That's it.

2-10-08

Why are you asking me? I'm not here to explain the review to you. Just read it. This is GS opinion we're talking about, not my own.

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What standards? Its been 2 years, the standards for the almost dead action adventure genre have not gone up all that much. ACiT was simply thought to be better. That's it.

ActicEdge

Why are you asking me? I'm not here to explain the review to you. Just read it. This is GS opinion we're talking about, not my own.

One gets a 7.5 in 2007, the other an 8.5 in 2009. I've played and beat tools of destruction and played both demos of crank in time. They look and play exactly alike, and yet gamespot increases the review score when standards have gone up and yet Ratchet stays the same.

2-10-08

So your basing ACiT solely off of the 2 demos you played. Maybe if you played the whole game you'd be in a position to make such a statement, but you didn't

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[QUOTE="2-10-08"] How was it better again?2-10-08

Why are you asking me? I'm not here to explain the review to you. Just read it. This is GS opinion we're talking about, not my own.

Again, why should I tell you? Read it, make your own conclusions. Unless you've already drilled this idea that they are the same into your head it shouldn't be hard to see where the gamespot reviews deviate.

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What standards? Its been 2 years, the standards for the almost dead action adventure genre have not gone up all that much. ACiT was simply thought to be better. That's it.

ActicEdge

Why are you asking me? I'm not here to explain the review to you. Just read it. This is GS opinion we're talking about, not my own.

On topic: It's Gamespot, I stopped trusting them after they overrated Resistance 2. But we have use their scores for ownage though.

One gets a 7.5 in 2007, the other an 8.5 in 2009. I've played and beat tools of destruction and played both demos of crank in time. They look and play exactly alike, and yet gamespot increases the review score when standards have gone up and yet Ratchet stays the same.

2-10-08

Gamespot reviewers should take into consideration previous iteration's reviews. Opinions are good, but when it helps the PS3, someone has to draw the line.

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What standards? Its been 2 years, the standards for the almost dead action adventure genre have not gone up all that much. ACiT was simply thought to be better. That's it.

2-10-08

And we have come to the point of this thread. Troolllllllliiiiinnnnnnnn!! Couldn't be anything else.

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[QUOTE="2-10-08"] How was it better again?mitu123

Why are you asking me? I'm not here to explain the review to you. Just read it. This is GS opinion we're talking about, not my own.

On topic: It's Gamespot, I stopped trusting them after they overrated Resistance 2. But we have use their scores for ownage though.

Off Topic: I gave IB a hard as hell concept game to work with and he he totally killed it. This is a really nice sig I must admit, he did a great job.

On topic: I still trust gamespot, I just make sure that I take everything they say loosely.

Gamespot reviewers should take into consideration previous iteration's reviews. Opinions are good, but when it helps the PS3, someone has to draw the line.

2-10-08

[QUOTE="2-10-08"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

What standards? Its been 2 years, the standards for the almost dead action adventure genre have not gone up all that much. ACiT was simply thought to be better. That's it.

navstar29

And we have come to the point of this thread. Troolllllllliiiiinnnnnnnn!! Couldn't be anything else.

Espada12

[QUOTE="navstar29"][QUOTE="2-10-08"] How was it better again?2-10-08

You can draw this extreme a conclusion from a single piece of sample data? Really? Also, why are you asking a question if you already have determined that your answer is the only correct one?

2 different reviewers, 2 different views.

With that said, ACIT is better.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Why are you asking me? I'm not here to explain the review to you. Just read it. This is GS opinion we're talking about, not my own.

On topic: It's Gamespot, I stopped trusting them after they overrated Resistance 2. But we have use their scores for ownage though.

Off Topic: I gave IB a hard as hell concept game to work with and he he totally killed it. This is a really nice sig I must admit, he did a great job.

On topic: I still trust gamespot, I just make sure that I take everything they say loosely.

[QUOTE="2-10-08"][QUOTE="navstar29"] How bout you actually play the GAME and find out ... not the demo. ActicEdge

You can draw this extreme a conclusion from a single piece of sample data? Really? Also, why are you asking a question if you already have determined that your answer is the only correct one?

The first 7.5 review was an insult. Really too much diversity in game play is a negative.:evil:That review is why IGN is now my much more trusted review site. The forums are the only reason I stay here.

[QUOTE="navstar29"][QUOTE="2-10-08"] How was it better again?2-10-08

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Off topic: Damn dude, that sig looks nice.

On topic: It's Gamespot, I stopped trusting them after they overrated Resistance 2. But we have use their scores for ownage though.

RogueShodown

Off Topic: I gave IB a hard as hell concept game to work with and he he totally killed it. This is a really nice sig I must admit, he did a great job.

On topic: I still trust gamespot, I just make sure that I take everything they say loosely.

2 different reviewers, 2 different views.

With that said, ACIT is better.

Gamespot reviewers should take into consideration previous iteration's reviews. Opinions are good, but when it helps the PS3, someone has to draw the line.

2-10-08

The first 7.5 review was an insult. Really too much diversity in game play is a negative.:evil:That review is why IGN is now my much more trusted review site. The forums are the only reason I stay here.

dercoo

I want to know what diversity. ToD was boring, stale, and repetitive.

ACIT offers diversity.

I've played and beat tools of destruction and played both demos of crank in time.

2-10-08

:?

First one was widely acknowledged as being underrated by GS.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Off topic: Damn dude, that sig looks nice.

On topic: It's Gamespot, I stopped trusting them after they overrated Resistance 2. But we have use their scores for ownage though.

RogueShodown

Off Topic: I gave IB a hard as hell concept game to work with and he he totally killed it. This is a really nice sig I must admit, he did a great job.

On topic: I still trust gamespot, I just make sure that I take everything they say loosely.

Actually, I never said anything about resistance 2 at all. Mitu did. I didn;t even allude to it, I haven't played it. Ironically, we were talking about e not playing it a while back, he recommended I give t a shot. I did play resistance 1 though which I thought was thoroughly mediocore and boring. I should play ODST though, I have the ability, I just haven't really cared to.

[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Off Topic: I gave IB a hard as hell concept game to work with and he he totally killed it. This is a really nice sig I must admit, he did a great job.

On topic: I still trust gamespot, I just make sure that I take everything they say loosely.

mitu123

@Artic I was responding to mitu

1) ACiT is far better 2) Tools of Destruction was underrated 3) ToD review was just stupid. identity crisis my assSilverChimera

No, the review wasn't stupid. It made perfect sense. In fact, it made so much sense that disgruntled cows had to take it out of context and downright lie about what the reviewer said.

[QUOTE="navstar29"][QUOTE="2-10-08"] How was it better again?2-10-08

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]1) ACiT is far better 2) Tools of Destruction was underrated 3) ToD review was just stupid. identity crisis my assTragic_Kingdom7

No, the review wasn't stupid. It made perfect sense. In fact, it made so much sense that disgruntled cows had to take it out of context and downright lie about what the reviewer said.

Reviews are always taken out of context here. Too much variety (which was not the actual quote) does not mean there is too much to do. It means that there are lots of challenges and gameplay additions that take focus off of the main task or gameplay and these extras aren't more engaging then the main mechanic. As such, instead of breaking up the gameplay so the core mechanic does not become repetitive, they rob the core mechanic of a chance to shine in exchange for a thoroughly mediocore one that isn't fun. I find it funny because I found this to be the exact sameproblemas Spyro 3, another Insomniac game.

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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"] Yes, because Resistance 2 was so overrated, right? It has an average of 8.7 on Gamerankings and a 9 on Gamespot. That's not overrated at all. I like how you didn't talk about how Halo:ODST was overrated, though.RogueShodown

@Artic I was responding to mitu