Gamestop Warns That Microsoft Could Significantly Diminish Appeal For New Xbox

Getting a game from walmart is garbagenextgenjoke

It should also be mentioned that Wal-Mart is the #1 game retailer. You are in the minority of people who finds buying games there a challenge.

Why do you want a store closing? How would would the industry be better with less stores supporting gaming?nextgenjoke

more than gamestop diminishes  the appeal of gaming in general?

i doubt that.

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]Getting a game from walmart is garbage you gotta go find a employee alot of times nobody in the game video game section then get them to unlock glass case with the game you want then physically point out where the game is.lol.Everytime i bought a new game from gamestop walk in there 99% of the time people at desk tell em what you want they know where it's at grab a copy and ring you up. You are in and out getting a game at gamestop compared to no big hassle compared to walmart.Midnightshade29

Also I never had a problem with Gamestop but I had problems with EB Games before Gamestop purchased them.

Gamestop sucks. Its twenty freaking questions trying to simply buy a game there before you leave.

"would you like to pre order anything" NO

"would you like to buy a warranty for this game only $2.00" NO

"would you like to subscribe to GI" NO

"do you have a membership card" NO

"would you like one" NO

No used games is lame but if it puts GS out of biz then thats a good thing. I miss the small independant "mom and pops" type game stores until GS ran them all out of business.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Meh... Blocking used games.

Who cares? Who buys used games anyway?

clone01

Trolled.

about 50% of their profits come from the used game market. Of course they don't want it to happen. It has nothing to do with them wanting MS to succeed.

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]Getting a game from walmart is garbageSenor_Kami

It should also be mentioned that Wal-Mart is the #1 game retailer. You are in the minority of people who finds buying games there a challenge.

i have ALLwasy been out of gamestop faster then walmart when just buying something.

Only time i have ever had a faster time was with midnight release. and thats because less people go to walmart then gamestop for them.

I don't think it's Hard to say " i want bla bla NEW and don't want anythign else" that always works for me

Gamestop sucks. Its twenty freaking questions trying to simply buy a game there before you leave.

 

"would you like to pre order anything" NO

"would you like to buy a warranty for this game only $2.00" NO

"would you like to subscribe to GI" NO

"do you have a membership card" NO

"would you like one" NO

 

No used games is lame but if it puts GS out of biz then thats a good thing. I miss the small independant "mom and pops" type game stores until GS ran them all out of business.

-CC-

I think it's quite alarming that Gamestop responded to a so-called "Rumor"ShadowDeathX

ddd

Jankarcop

How is Gamestop taking out over hundreds of millions of dollars a year a good thing???

How is Hundreds of millions of dollars going back into the games industry not a good thing??

Um, no duh. Gamestop makes literally half their money on used games and the other half is mainly physical copies of new games. They have kind of a vested interest in keeping consoles away from DD and used game-friendly

Sony actually has the patent to block used games. I wonder how Matt Hodges feels about that?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-patents-tech-to-block-used-games-6401992

Wouldn't Microsoft have to purchase the rights from Sony to block used games? lol!!

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How is Gamestop taking out over hundreds of millions of dollars a year a good thing???

 

How is Hundreds of millions of dollars going back into the games industry not a good thing??

Ravenlore_basic

How is Gamestop taking out over hundreds of millions of dollars a year a good thing???

 

How is Hundreds of millions of dollars going back into the games industry not a good thing??

Ravenlore_basic

let's kill gaming culture, retro gaming and give up on our rights for the sake of corporations that don't give a single f*k for you or me. Just think about it... I mean, do you even have the necessary IQ to think straight? We are the ones getting f*ked by this!

An example: DRM was to combat piracy but pirates have found ways around it so at the end it's the consumer the ones getting f*ked by it  not the pirates and the same will happen with Gamestop, they will just find a way around it to keep making money somehow.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

ddd

Nengo_Flow

To be pushed to use an always online slavery scheme, the games must be 300+ hours each and top of the top quality with empahsis to gameplay

Anything less and i will not bother

[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

ddd

percech

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Meh... Blocking used games.

Who cares? Who buys used games anyway?

GamerwillzPS

Trolled.

Sony actually has the patent to block used games. I wonder how Matt Hodges feels about that?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-patents-tech-to-block-used-games-6401992

Wouldn't Microsoft have to purchase the rights from Sony to block used games? lol!!

 blackace

No. Sony may have a patent but it will only be for a particular method or technique of blocking used games like an encryption algorithm or something. Another company can make their own solution without infringing on Sony's patent.

I wouldn't trust Sony for reliability with such things anyway, they store peoples credit card information in plain text files :lol:

[QUOTE="blackace"]

Sony actually has the patent to block used games. I wonder how Matt Hodges feels about that?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-patents-tech-to-block-used-games-6401992

Wouldn't Microsoft have to purchase the rights from Sony to block used games? lol!!

 HaRmLeSS_RaGe

No. Sony may have a patent but it will only be for a particular method or technique of blocking used games like an encryption algorithm or something. Another company can make their own solution without infringing on Sony's patent.

I wouldn't trust Sony for reliability with such things anyway, they store peoples credit card information in plain text files :lol:

Shocking. It's not like a  massive  portion of Gamestop's sales come from used games, or anything.

How come people don't complain that Google and Apple make more money than MS and Sony from apps and those are digital only?MarieWolfwood

ddd

Jankarcop

Probably M$ wants everyone that owns thier 3rd xbox to pay them for xlive. It's most likely an attempt to get more people to get xlive. 

Probably M$ wants everyone that owns thier 3rd xbox to pay them for xlive. It's most likely an attempt to get more people to get xlive. 

clr84651

Could you explain this?

Used or not, if you want MP, you pay for Xbox Live.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

Sony actually has the patent to block used games. I wonder how Matt Hodges feels about that?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-patents-tech-to-block-used-games-6401992

Wouldn't Microsoft have to purchase the rights from Sony to block used games? lol!!

 HaRmLeSS_RaGe

No. Sony may have a patent but it will only be for a particular method or technique of blocking used games like an encryption algorithm or something. Another company can make their own solution without infringing on Sony's patent.

I wouldn't trust Sony for reliability with such things anyway, they store peoples credit card information in plain text files :lol:

Blackace will desperately Scratch and claw to repel anything negative about MS or XBox and exaggerate anything negative about PlayStation. Don't waste your time with him,  it's like talking to a brick wall. 

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Probably M$ wants everyone that owns thier 3rd xbox to pay them for xlive. It's most likely an attempt to get more people to get xlive. 

lundy86_4

Could you explain this?

Used or not, if you want MP, you pay for Xbox Live.

If they require their 3rd xbox to have an internet connection to be able to play it as rumors are saying then M$ is thinking that by doing that they will get more people to want Xlive. If all systems have an internet connection then it's likely that a very high percentage of them would get Xlive. Making M$ more money. Same thing they've been doing by making people only buy their HDDs, requiring everyone to pay to play online, charging extra to have the controller rechargable, $200 add on for HDDVD, $100 for a WiFi connector, charged to be able to get themes on your 360 etc. It's all about M$ making more money from games, xlive subscriptions, and by making people buy only their add ons and stuff. 

I look forward to gamestop closing its doors next gen.Pittfan666

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Probably M$ wants everyone that owns thier 3rd xbox to pay them for xlive. It's most likely an attempt to get more people to get xlive. 

clr84651

Could you explain this?

Used or not, if you want MP, you pay for Xbox Live.

If they require their 3rd xbox to have an internet connection to be able to play it as rumors are saying then M$ is thinking that by doing that they will get more people to want Xlive. If all systems have an internet connection then it's likely that a very high percentage of them would get Xlive. Making M$ more money. Same thing they've been doing by making people only buy their HDDs, requiring everyone to pay to play online, charging extra to have the controller rechargable, $200 add on for HDDVD, $100 for a WiFi connector, charged to be able to get themes on your 360 etc. It's all about M$ making more money from games, xlive subscriptions, and by making people buy only their add ons and stuff. 

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Probably M$ wants everyone that owns thier 3rd xbox to pay them for xlive. It's most likely an attempt to get more people to get xlive. 

clr84651

Could you explain this?

Used or not, if you want MP, you pay for Xbox Live.

If they require their 3rd xbox to have an internet connection to be able to play it as rumors are saying then M$ is thinking that by doing that they will get more people to want Xlive. If all systems have an internet connection then it's likely that a very high percentage of them would get Xlive. Making M$ more money. Same thing they've been doing by making people only buy their HDDs, requiring everyone to pay to play online, charging extra to have the controller rechargable, $200 add on for HDDVD, $100 for a WiFi connector, charged to be able to get themes on your 360 etc. It's all about M$ making more money from games, xlive subscriptions, and by making people buy only their add ons and stuff. 

Odd thought pattern. Where is your evidence linking an always-connected device likely making people want to play for an online service connected to said device?

Those things you listed aren't the same at all.

If they wanted everybody to pay, they simply wouldn't offer a free alternative, i.e. Silver.

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Could you explain this?

Used or not, if you want MP, you pay for Xbox Live.

lundy86_4

If they require their 3rd xbox to have an internet connection to be able to play it as rumors are saying then M$ is thinking that by doing that they will get more people to want Xlive. If all systems have an internet connection then it's likely that a very high percentage of them would get Xlive. Making M$ more money. Same thing they've been doing by making people only buy their HDDs, requiring everyone to pay to play online, charging extra to have the controller rechargable, $200 add on for HDDVD, $100 for a WiFi connector, charged to be able to get themes on your 360 etc. It's all about M$ making more money from games, xlive subscriptions, and by making people buy only their add ons and stuff. 

Odd thought pattern. Where is your evidence linking an always-connected device likely making people want to play for an online service connected to said device?

Those things you listed aren't the same at all.

If they wanted everybody to pay, they simply wouldn't offer a free alternative, i.e. Silver.

Then why do you think M$ would would force people to have an online connection to be able to play games. Why do you think they would stop allowing used games to be played. If Sony, M$, Nintendo, or PC stopped the use of used games it's because they're wanting to make more money. M$ is well known to do business the way it can make a maximum profit off of their products, moreso than any other company. 

Then why do you think M$ would would force people to have an online connection to be able to play games. Why do you think they would stop allowing used games to be played. If Sony, M$, Nintendo, or PC stopped the use of used games it's because they're wanting to make more money. M$ is well known to do business the way it can make a maximum profit off of their products, moreso than any other company. 

clr84651

Further piracy prevention. That's probably the largest. The 360 was pretty easy to crack and play pirated versions of games. Going online potentially brought your system under the ban-hammer, where it's bricked.

Stopping used games means more money for them. See: Sony and online passes.

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I wasn't contesting them wanting to make more money. That's common sense.  How  they make that money is what I questioned, and you concluding an always-on connection meant they could charge  everybody  for Gold was kinda silly.

Gonna need a link for them doing it more than  any other company.

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Then why do you think M$ would would force people to have an online connection to be able to play games. Why do you think they would stop allowing used games to be played. If Sony, M$, Nintendo, or PC stopped the use of used games it's because they're wanting to make more money. M$ is well known to do business the way it can make a maximum profit off of their products, moreso than any other company. 

lundy86_4

Further piracy prevention. That's probably the largest. The 360 was pretty easy to crack and play pirated versions of games. Going online potentially brought your system under the ban-hammer, where it's bricked.

Stopping used games means more money for them. See: Sony and online passes.

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I wasn't contesting them wanting to make more money. That's common sense.  How  they make that money is what I questioned, and you concluding an always-on connection meant they could charge  everybody  for Gold was kinda silly.

Gonna need a link for them doing it more than  any other company.

OK,piracy prevention makes them more money, only playing new games makes them more money, and more people are likely to have Xlive as well. It's all about making more money. 

OK,piracy prevention makes them more money, only playing new games makes them more money, and more people are likely to have Xlive as well. It's all about making more money. 

clr84651

Which I said. Do you read the whole post?

However, linking an always-on console to Xbox Live Gold memberships is rather... Lacking... In information... God damn! Silver memberships are online and can be used for online features  other  than MP/paid services.

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

OK,piracy prevention makes them more money, only playing new games makes them more money, and more people are likely to have Xlive as well. It's all about making more money. 

lundy86_4

Which I said. Do you read the whole post?

However, linking an always-on console to Xbox Live Gold memberships is rather... Lacking... In information... God damn! Silver memberships are online and can be used for online features  other  than MP/paid services.

More money is the motivation to MS making these changes. I'm sure Sony has been looking into how to spend less and make more. It's rather evident with all the news of them selling buildings and making other decisions. I'll count myself lucky if Sony doesn't start doing it more. 

More money is the motivation to MS making these changes. I'm sure Sony has been looking into how to spend less and make more. It's rather evident with all the news of them selling buildings and making other decisions. I'll count myself lucky if Sony doesn't start doing it more. 

clr84651

Of course they want to make money. However, you haven't explained the correlation between "always-on DRM" and:

Probably M$ wants everyone that owns thier 3rd xbox to pay them for xlive. It's most likely an attempt to get more people to get xlive. 

clr84651

Do you see the disconnect?