Gametrailer.com Editor Speaks Up

Earlier GameTrailers caused an uproar with their confession in regards to how they video capture for multiplatform games from the PlayStation 3. Daniel Bloodworth, an Associate Editor of GameTrailers, protested that:

...we currently cannot capture in HDMI. The handshaking prohibits us from doing it, and there is currently not a satisfactory solution. We will gladly do so when we can. All comparison vids are done in 720p through component cables. The equipment and settings we use for each system are identical...

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showpost.php?p=7357921&postcount=34

the question is not why GT doesnt use full RGB

the question is why the 360 uses it Directly, and the PS3 needs HDMI

ok sooo gametrailer comparison videos now equal garbage until this is fixed and cannot be used to prove one version better then another?unreal48

it's not going to be fixed. at least in conventional ways, because of the copyprotection on HDMI. this is to keep ppl from being able to copy movies. (though the pro pirates have already found ways.)

what does this mean exactly?

what does this mean exactly?

zeeerrr

it means PS3 games look much better with FULL RGB on.

what does this mean exactly?

zeeerrr

It means Ps3 games using HDMI look much better than the crap they show.

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

chikenfriedrice

They should display each console's highest possible settings

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

flashattackfina

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

flashattackfina

They should display each console's highest possible settings

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

chikenfriedrice

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

we won't know until they try using it

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

chikenfriedrice

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

flashattackfina

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

we won't know until they try using it

well like thay said they can't so until then this is the only way to make a fair comparison...and I bet the majority of gamers are usin component cables anyway...it's not thier fault that the PS3 does not perform as well with those cables?

I knew there were something wrong with those gametrailer vids, assassins creed look so much better on PS3 then those vids would have you believe, so lems always felt they were right when they said the multiplats look better on the 360. NOT THE CASE NOW IS IT!

THIS MEANS DMC4 WILL LOOK BETTER ON PS3! Though that shouldn't surprise anyone, but knowing lems, they'll still be ignorant about this and keep preaching that multiplats look better on the 360, while deep down, THEY KNOW THEY DO NOT!
FreewayScruff

well dont most reviews back up what those vids show anyway?

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

mmirza23

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

I've done it same game multi plat back to back and in most instances the 360 was graphically better. It's not like a huge difference but, a noticable difference. Most of the multi plat ps3 games seam to usually have more jaggies. btwI have a sony 1080p 60" sxrd rear projection t.v. both through hdmi.

thats a good point, I guess editors were playing through component on crappy tvs or somethingFreewayScruff

lol idk about that

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

carsales

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

I've done it same game multi plat back to back and in most instances the 360 was graphically better. It's not like a huge difference but, a noticable difference. Most of the multi plat ps3 games seam to usually have more jaggies. btwI have a sony 1080p 60" sxrd rear projection t.v. both through hdmi.

[QUOTE="carsales"][QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

mmirza23

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

I've done it same game multi plat back to back and in most instances the 360 was graphically better. It's not like a huge difference but, a noticable difference. Most of the multi plat ps3 games seam to usually have more jaggies. btwI have a sony 1080p 60" sxrd rear projection t.v. both through hdmi.

I didn't even know there was such a feature on the 360...i'm excited to check it out when I get home :)

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

chikenfriedrice

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

we won't know until they try using it

well like thay said they can't so until then this is the only way to make a fair comparison...and I bet the majority of gamers are usin component cables anyway...it's not thier fault that the PS3 does not perform as well with those cables?

[QUOTE="carsales"][QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

mmirza23

They should display each console's highest possible settings

I agree but they can't and who's to say the 360 still wouldn't look better when both are running with HDMI?

I've done it same game multi plat back to back and in most instances the 360 was graphically better. It's not like a huge difference but, a noticable difference. Most of the multi plat ps3 games seam to usually have more jaggies. btwI have a sony 1080p 60" sxrd rear projection t.v. both through hdmi.

he's saying color deferences is not a factor, and textures / polygons are what matters.

well, we know who win this argument in this case. (there goes the full RGB hope)

he's saying color deferences is not a factor, and textures / polygons are what matters.

well, we know who win this argument in this case. (there goes the full RGB hope)

Mystery_Writer

what hope? both consoles should use all features

Xenon and 3 cores owns rsx and cell. Get over it cows. It's not that big of a deal. Games are what matter anyways so if you like the games on the PS3 then you should be happy, right?kevbo77

lolwoot? Uncharted says hello.

[QUOTE="kevbo77"]Xenon and 3 cores owns rsx and cell. Get over it cows. It's not that big of a deal. Games are what matter anyways so if you like the games on the PS3 then you should be happy, right?Eddie-Vedder

lolwoot? Uncharted says hello.

lol, game sales says hello. What's Uncharted at like, 250k ltd. My point being that you won't have many more uncharted type games if you cows continue to sit on your hands. And I can't really comment on uncharted because I've never seen or played it, but I do know it got an 8.0 here at GS, so apparently it's not too mind blowing.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="kevbo77"]Xenon and 3 cores owns rsx and cell. Get over it cows. It's not that big of a deal. Games are what matter anyways so if you like the games on the PS3 then you should be happy, right?kevbo77

lolwoot? Uncharted says hello.

lol, game sales says hello. What's Uncharted at like, 250k ltd. My point being that you won't have many more uncharted type games if you cows continue to sit on your hands. And I can't really comment on uncharted because I've never seen or played it, but I do know it got an 8.0 here at GS, so apparently it's not too mind blowing.

Cows bring it up a lot because it is easily the best looking, and best over all game on the PS3. Well exclusive game on the PS3, as the PS3 has some really good 3rd party games.

[QUOTE="kevbo77"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="kevbo77"]Xenon and 3 cores owns rsx and cell. Get over it cows. It's not that big of a deal. Games are what matter anyways so if you like the games on the PS3 then you should be happy, right?snyper1982

lolwoot? Uncharted says hello.

lol, game sales says hello. What's Uncharted at like, 250k ltd. My point being that you won't have many more uncharted type games if you cows continue to sit on your hands. And I can't really comment on uncharted because I've never seen or played it, but I do know it got an 8.0 here at GS, so apparently it's not too mind blowing.

Cows bring it up a lot because it is easily the best looking, and best over all game on the PS3. Well exclusive game on the PS3, as the PS3 has some really good 3rd party games.

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

they are both running 720P on component right? so what's the big deal? they are even comparisions

flashattackfina

They should display each console's highest possible settings

Exactly

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="kevbo77"]Xenon and 3 cores owns rsx and cell. Get over it cows. It's not that big of a deal. Games are what matter anyways so if you like the games on the PS3 then you should be happy, right?kevbo77

lolwoot? Uncharted says hello.

lol, game sales says hello. What's Uncharted at like, 250k ltd. My point being that you won't have many more uncharted type games if you cows continue to sit on your hands. And I can't really comment on uncharted because I've never seen or played it, but I do know it got an 8.0 here at GS, so apparently it's not too mind blowing.

How can you base a Gamespot score on how good the game is? Seriously...

you guys are really silly. HDMI doesn't make that much damn difference. Dreams-Visions

thats a good point, I guess editors were playing through component on crappy tvs or somethingFreewayScruff

no, same cables that come default with each system, each system was runnning identical setups they said, only dif was the ps3s rbg, which was caused by the ps3 itself. so if u don't like the colors, change your own sets colors they pretty much set. So in short they both are running with the same compent cables at 720p, its all up to each system now. hey, there is really rarely a big diffrence, hell if u can spots the diffrence in dmc4, burnout paradise, AC on both system...well damn ur one fanboy.

no but I can spot the difference in the gametrailer head to head vids, the fact that those bastards have been keeping this secret for this long means they're bias against the ps3 or ms paid them off, ok maybe not but they sure are biased.

i guess it doesn't make a difference with me, im running my ps3 on hdmi, now if I can just get ms to replace my 360 with a falcon board and hdmi input i wouldn't be so grudgy against ms.

no but I can spot the difference in the gametrailer head to head vids, the fact that those bastards have been keeping this secret for this long means they're bias against the ps3 or ms paid them off, ok maybe not but they sure are biased.

i guess it doesn't make a difference with me, im running my ps3 on hdmi, now if I can just get ms to replace my 360 with a falcon board and hdmi input i wouldn't be so grudgy against ms.

FreewayScruff

no, no, lol did u read the article? here bro:

Edit: Fixed the link

here

Seriously, do you all know what digital vibrance is? Been on PC's forever. This is the same thing...

If you use it on full on MOST TV's, you are going to crush your black levels and while you may "think" it looks better because you are causing "super whites" and it looks brighter/more vibrant, but in reality you are destroying a lot of the detail in the black area.

If you properly calibrate your HDTV, you should for the most part a.) see no difference with it on or off, save contrast change and/or b.) if the dynamic contrast is too low on the TV, lose details in your blacks.]

There is a reason this is "off" by default.

OMG!!!

I knew something looked wrong in there comparisons. Assassins creed looked washed out and I went to play it on the PS3 and noticed it looked nothing like the screen shots on GT.

Seriously, do you all know what digital vibrance is? Been on PC's forever. This is the same thing...

If you use it on full on MOST TV's, you are going to crush your black levels and while you may "think" it looks better because you are causing "super whites" and it looks brighter/more vibrant, but in reality you are destroying a lot of the detail in the black area.

If you properly calibrate your HDTV, you should for the most part a.) see no difference with it on or off, save contrast change and/or b.) if the dynamic contrast is too low on the TV, lose details in your blacks.]

There is a reason this is "off" by default.

maabus99

Ditto. I've been trying to tell people this since the feature came out. Nobody listens. The feature is mainly to be used for computer monitors(that support full range color), not tvs. Your colors will be more vibrant, but you WILL lose shadow detail. Anybody who thinks this feature miraculously makes the graphics look better is kidding themselves. There are some tvs that can benefit from the feature though.