Gearbox is still a sh*tty company, more news at 11.

its a hit or miss developer. they made the first 2 brothers in arms and borderlands franchise...but they also had their clunkers. can't wait for borderlands 3

You think that game was going to be any good?

Anyways, only two games; I'll wait for when they have a bit more on their track record before I decide to throw them out the door.

Goyoshi12

Only two games? They've done more than Borderlands. They also made the Brothers in Arms games, and the original Half Life expansions, Blue Shift and Opposing Force, plus the Half Life ports for Dreamcast and PS2. And they worked on the retail version of original Counterstrike (before Source), and CS: Condition Zero. Then there's Duke Nukem Forever, and Aliens: Colonial Marines. 

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/how-and-why-gearbox-shut-down-an-ambitious-beautiful-re-telling-of-duke-nuk

Basically, because DNF sucked ass. They decided to shut down this free game because people might not buy their own game.

tagyhag

Are you freaking kidding me? I was really looking forward to this.

Majorly bummed out now.

EDIT: after reading that entire article Gearbox should have thrown the devs some money to make it a gearbox game, just shutting something that ambitious down is wasteful, after the disaster that was duke nukem forever this would have been the perfect way to reinvigorate the franchise.

Pretty sure Dukes dead in the water now, I'm surprised they haven't gone after the Graphics mods for the original D3D either.

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You think that game was going to be any good?

Anyways, only two games; I'll wait for when they have a bit more on their track record before I decide to throw them out the door.

the_bi99man

Only two games? They've done more than Borderlands. They also made the Brothers in Arms games, and the original Half Life expansions, Blue Shift and Opposing Force, plus the Half Life ports for Dreamcast and PS2. And they worked on the retail version of original Counterstrike (before Source), and CS: Condition Zero. Then there's Duke Nukem Forever, and Aliens: Colonial Marines. 

I was referring to DNF and Aliens: Colonial Marines.

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

You think that game was going to be any good?

Anyways, only two games; I'll wait for when they have a bit more on their track record before I decide to throw them out the door.

Goyoshi12

Only two games? They've done more than Borderlands. They also made the Brothers in Arms games, and the original Half Life expansions, Blue Shift and Opposing Force, plus the Half Life ports for Dreamcast and PS2. And they worked on the retail version of original Counterstrike (before Source), and CS: Condition Zero. Then there's Duke Nukem Forever, and Aliens: Colonial Marines. 

I was referring to DNF and Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Oh okay. So just the two  bad  games? :P

Yeah, I'm not prepared to totally shit on them just because of that, either. DNF wasn't entirely their fault, and I seem to remember liking the Brothers in Arms games when I played the first 2 years ago. Their handling of this Duke Nukem Reloaded situation is a bummer, though. Same with the ridiculous downgrading of A:CM between the E3 reveal and the actual release.

Company can't accept its failure, continues to be a dick about it.

Company can't accept its failure, continues to be a dick about it.

KungfuKitten

At least they allowed the criticism of DNF. I know of companies who literally block out all negative feed on their games so unless you have good things to say they will not even consider your opinion valid.

[QUOTE="Gargus"]They are as awful as obsidian is.foxhound_fox

The only games they did well were Borderlands....nothing new here

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Company can't accept its failure, continues to be a dick about it.

Goyoshi12

At least they allowed the criticism of DNF. I know of companies who literally block out all negative feed on their games so unless you have good things to say they will not even consider your opinion valid.

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Borderlands is fun with friends, but the thing that makes those games fun is not the games itself but rather the fact that you are playing with your friends. If you understand what I mean.

And the borderlands IP is not even worthy of polishing "those boring Souls games"' boots.

JangoWuzHere

Any game is fun if you play it with friends. I find the co-op stuff in Borderlands 2 chaotic and pretty bad. 

That is the point ;)

Any game can be fun with friends. So Borderlands being fun with friends isnt really something to brag about or me saying the game is good in any way.

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Borderlands is fun with friends, but the thing that makes those games fun is not the games itself but rather the fact that you are playing with your friends. If you understand what I mean.

And the borderlands IP is not even worthy of polishing "those boring Souls games"' boots.

JangoWuzHere

Any game is fun if you play it with friends.

Not necessarily. I know of games that even with friends are still pretty bad.

By that logic, also, does that mean every co-op game is bad?

The only games they did well were Borderlands....nothing new here

wis3boi

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The only games they did well were Borderlands....nothing new here

TheShadowLord07

Or their PC ports?

........hey, Valve got started by modding games so....you know.

Borderlands and Brothers in Arms were good.

Although, I did not like the look of the Furious Four...

Not that I actively endorse this, but it's common practice in the industry.

I've been burnt by situations like this a number of times - (stares at Squeenix) - but it's not really easy to judge from a consumer POV.

Also, I'll have to credit them for Borderlands 2 + expansions. It's really good, even solo.

they can still release the game just rename it

• They shut down a potentially great mod so they could sell more of their crappy Duke Nukem Forever
• They compared DNF to the greatness of Half Life, overhyped it when even they could tell the game wasn't going to be any good
• They lied to gamers and press about Aliens: Colonial Marines

They continuously lie to gamers and shut down promising projects in favor of their own crap. I'm done with Gearbox. I bought and loved their HL expansions and BIA games. But I'm not buying a game from them ever again, even if Borderlands 2 does look good.

Borderlands and Brothers in Arms were good.

Although, I did not like the look of the Furious Four...

PcGamingRig

Nobody did, that's why we haven't heard or seen from it ever since they first announced it.

hey, Valve got started by modding games so....you know.

Goyoshi12

No they didn't. They got started with Half Life, people modded their games.

Studios like Trauma or Tripwire got started by modding games.

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hey, Valve got started by modding games so....you know.

R4gn4r0k

No they didn't. They got started with Half Life, people modded their games.

Studios like Trauma or Tripwire got started by modding games.

Team Fortress?

The only games they did well were Borderlands....nothing new here

wis3boi

Halflife: Opposing Force. Brother In Arms: Road to Hill 30.

I liked DNF, it was fun. Not the best FPS in the market but it was different and fun.

remove everything that they can get sued over and release it.

look at what is copyrighted for the duke nukem franchise remove it rename it release it.

Team Fortress?

Goyoshi12

Team Fortress was a quake mod, and later it was remade as a HL mod called Team Fortress Classic, what about it ?

Another reason Valve is awesome they had no problems with Black Mesa Source remake all other companies shut down the remakes of old games bastards.

They have to protect their IP, it's as simple as that. Those cases are always unfortunate but it happened several times already in the past.

Here is a good article about the problematic:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-05/5/investigation-are-fan-games-legal

Important section:

"If a company was to continually ignore infringements of a trade mark, the protection afforded by the mark is eroded and may render it invalid,"

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Borderlands was top 5 new series this generation. Only Uncharted and Mass Effect were better new IPs. Yes better than those boring Souls games.

seanmcloughlin

Terrible taste confirmed

They have to protect their IP, it's as simple as that. Those cases are always unfortunate but it happened several times already in the past.

Here is a good article about the problematic:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-05/5/investigation-are-fan-games-legal

 

Important section:

"If a company was to continually ignore infringements of a trade mark, the protection afforded by the mark is eroded and may render it invalid,"

G-Lord

Nothing wrong with protecting your IP from crap that would give it a bad name.

But don't shut down a quality mod, release a crappy game and than call shutting down that mod protecting your IP. On the contrary: allowing that mod and scrapping Duke Nukem Forever would have protected their IP. Now they've damaged it.

This mod is still running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqBJ7iX5a-o

Say what you will about the graphics, still rather play this than most of this generations shitty shootters.

(hint: I mean all console shooters)

[QUOTE="G-Lord"]

They have to protect their IP, it's as simple as that. Those cases are always unfortunate but it happened several times already in the past.

Here is a good article about the problematic:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-05/5/investigation-are-fan-games-legal

 

Important section:

"If a company was to continually ignore infringements of a trade mark, the protection afforded by the mark is eroded and may render it invalid,"

R4gn4r0k

Nothing wrong with protecting your IP from crap that would give it a bad name.

But don't shut down a quality mod, release a crappy game and than call shutting down that mod protecting your IP. On the contrary: allowing that mod and scrapping Duke Nukem Forever would have protected their IP. Now they've damaged it.

Don't get me wrong, I really looked forward to this project and was disappointed when it was shut down. But having read into several similar stories I came to the conclusion that it's just a tricky legal situation in any case.

eh borderlands 1 and 2 justify my love of gearbox and @Duvalmagic constantly releasing shift keys make the execs okay in my book.

Meh, BL2 is still awesome, so they are alright by me.

Well except for the paying for single new characters thing, and not having everything in that so called Season Pass. That's some bullshit. Nickel and diming in a game is one of the most ridiculous practices created in this era of gaming.

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Team Fortress?

R4gn4r0k

Team Fortress was a quake mod, and later it was remade as a HL mod called Team Fortress Classic, what about it ?

It's a mod that Valve made...

Fine, they did start with Half Life but as you said Tripwire and that other company started as simply modders and there is no denying Valve's strong support and backbone in modding. Also, while they may not have started modding games a few of their games wouldn't be around if not for modding (CounterStrike, Half Life ((started as a mod I believe but soon got picked up and backed up to be a full fledge game)), Team Fortress, Dota 2 ((not their game but you get the idea))).