Gearbox (Pitchford) calls out Valve for lack of PS3 support

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Wait wait wait wait. What was their game plan? I don't exactly get what your saying.Animal-Mother

Anyway, If I have time I'll search my archives and see if i come up with the Sony quote that proves this but others here can vouch for it as well me thinks.

I'm not putting down the PS3 or the awesome games for it, only pointing out that Valve feels no such need to break their back working with the PS3, the third place console when it comes to sales and how many games a dev may be able to sell to it's users.

Hope that's as clear as mudd now. :P

It's hypocrytical to jump to Valve defense on this one. They are simply choosing not to develop to reduce the cost of labor to a minimum, just because it takes a bit more skill and effort to make a game on the PS3. Yet when there is a new PC architecture, and a new graphics card series, the PC developers jump immediately to develop a game for it knowing nothing about it. Not only that but they don't just make a game for various ranges of graphic cards and setup wich has to be tested, but make their own graphics engine sometimes. Bethesda made Oblivion on the PS3 and it was just as good, and even better than the 360 version.

Like someone said, they don't want to get out of their comfor zone, because it's easy to make a game based on an outdated PC graphics engine (Source), and port it over to a PC based console. I mean, there is nothing, absolutely nothing that Xbox 360 can do with L4D, that the PS3 can't. And if they don't want to make games for the Sony PS3, then.... ohh well. I can spend my money somewhere else.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]The long & short of it was to make it hard for dev's to have any time to dev for competing consoles. Ya see, they figured they would be the king of this gen as well and if devs would find it a no brainer to concentrate all their efforts on the PS3 and have little time for others. Happily, it backfired big time as the PS3 is bringing up the rear this gen and 360 deving has been very profitable for those devs doing games for it.

Anyway, If I have time I'll search my archives and see if i come up with the Sony quote that proves this but others here can vouch for it as well me thinks.

SecretPolice

I'm not putting down the PS3 or the awesome games for it, only pointing out that Valve feels no such need to break their back working with the PS3, the third place console when it comes to sales and how many games a dev may be able to sell to it's users.

Hope that's as clear as mudd now. :P

It's hypocrytical to jump to Valve defense on this one. They are simply choosing not to develop to reduce the cost of labor to a minimum, just because it takes a bit more skill and effort to make a game on the PS3. Yet when there is a new PC architecture, and a new graphics card series, the PC developers jump immediately to develop a game for it knowing nothing about it. Not only that but they don't just make a game for various ranges of graphic cards and setup wich has to be tested, but make their own graphics engine sometimes. Bethesda made Oblivion on the PS3 and it was just as good, and even better than the 360 version.

Like someone said, they don't want to get out of their comfor zone, because it's easy to make a game based on an outdated PC graphics engine (Source), and port it over to a PC based console. I mean, there is nothing, absolutely nothing that Xbox 360 can do with L4D, that the PS3 can't. And if they don't want to make games for the Sony PS3, then.... ohh well. I can spend my money somewhere else.

DevilMightCry

I agree with pretty much everything Randy is saying, thoughts?

Sauce

He states "the PS3 is awesome. I think Valve...I don't know why they are doing that. It's weird. but yeah, the Playstation platform's really cool. It's different to others and it's certainly a challenge to be able to develop software for. But that's where the fun is, right?"

XturnalS

[QUOTE="XturnalS"]

I agree with pretty much everything Randy is saying, thoughts?

Sauce

He states "the PS3 is awesome. I think Valve...I don't know why they are doing that. It's weird. but yeah, the Playstation platform's really cool. It's different to others and it's certainly a challenge to be able to develop software for. But that's where the fun is, right?"

hiryu3

Valve is lazy and extremely overrated, they dont develop for ps3 coz they are noob devs

sikanderahmed

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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

Funny thing is, they dont even sell 2x anything on the PS3 :lol: Nice one lem.

RadecSupreme

are you kidding? half-life sold over 9 million

half life 2 over 6 million

CS sold over 4 million

OJ box over 3 million

okay so who doesnt sell more than 2x anything on the ps3?

note: this doesnt include l4d sales, and this was released a year ago

I dont see any proof. Just some random numbers.

http://kotaku.com/5101506/valve-releases-ten-years-of-amazing-sales-figures

its on a lot of wbesites but i figure kotaku is reliable enough for you

[QUOTE="Javieralijandro"]valve sucks on xbox too anyways, pc users get free DLCLegendaryscmt

Valve isn't the one charging for the DLC on the 360...

Valve doesn't support PS3 because (according to System Wars logic) EVERY PS3 owner has an ub3r-l33t gaming rig in which to play MS exclusives on. Why would they need to make the same game for the PS3 if PS3 owners already have a top-o-teh-line gaming PC to play it on???

Shameless cowspot are not Explaining about Hideo Kojima(not makes PC/360 games) who is similar to Valve who not support PS3badtaker

Does Kojima at every turn and avenue make it a point to say how the PS3 is awesome and the 360 sucks? Nope but Valve sure seems to love bashing the PS3 whenever they get the chance.

http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=226831

If you had read the original link you'd see that this is the main point Pitchford is trying to get at.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Gabe Newell, the co-founder and managing director of Valve hated the PS2, and he hated the PS3, I think at this stage in the game, it's just pride. Eh, whatever.

He can do whatever he wants with his company, it's a free country.

Still, good for Gearbox for calling out their peers.

Midnightshade29

Sure, there are a lot of companies out there that make games on the PS3 without complaining. But, do you really think it's profitable for them? That's why most games are multiplat, because they know games will always sell better on the 360, to help cut back on losses.

No one can fault Valve for wanting to be smart about their company.

valve sucks on xbox too anyways, pc users get free DLCJavieralijandro

Valve makes great games. All this hate is absolutely ridiculous. I'm sure most of you complaining about Valve don't realize how small the company really is.

Taking the extra time, and money to learn the PS3, to them, isn't worth it. They've said this numerous times. This is a choice they made, and I respect them for it. To call them lazy, overrated, talentless, etc. is nonsense.

Let's say all of the complainers here in SW started a small dev company. You have a background in PC development, and it's easy to create games on the PC, and 360. You look into making a PS3 game, and it ends up taking more time, and money than you're willing to spend, so you decide not to do it. How would you guys feel about being called lazy, no talent having hacks based soley on the decision you felt was better for your company?

MortalDecay

:shock: how dare you bring logic into system wars. I think all this hate against valve is ridiculous too. They made a choice and I respect that, it's more of a business strategy, can't hate them for that