Gearbox's Pitchford attacks Valve's "fanboy" PS3 neglect

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Valve is just trying to DC the fact that they don't want to develop for anything other than the PC format and don't want to work on anything that doesn't involve their precious source engine since that'd be too much work.

Seeing Valves games only really cater for that community, I can see why they are bellyaching, they after the profits after all so if PS3 aren't nuturing that kind of community then they will not sell well on the PS3.

Valve is just trying to DC the fact that they don't want to develop for anything other than the PC format and don't want to work on anything that doesn't involve their precious source engine since that'd be too much work.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Valve is just trying to DC the fact that they don't want to develop for anything other than the PC format and don't want to work on anything that doesn't involve their precious source engine since that'd be too much work.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Basically. It bothers me that they do that yet are praised as if they are the greatest gaming company in the world who regularly saves children from burning buildings.

Criterion, Gearbox, and recently even heavy Xbox Devs BIOWARE have proved that the PS3 can do some wonders...but, hey, the longer VALVE says and does what Gabe wants, that's fine. It's starting to look silly mid-generation, but whatever.

Gabe hated the PS2, he hates the PS3, and quite frankly he can do whatever he wants.

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Valve is just trying to DC the fact that they don't want to develop for anything other than the PC format and don't want to work on anything that doesn't involve their precious source engine since that'd be too much work.

Pixel-Pirate

Basically. It bothers me that they do that yet are praised as if they are the greatest gaming company in the world who regularly saves children from burning buildings.

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Valve is just trying to DC the fact that they don't want to develop for anything other than the PC format and don't want to work on anything that doesn't involve their precious source engine since that'd be too much work.

Pixel-Pirate

Basically. It bothers me that they do that yet are praised as if they are the greatest gaming company in the world who regularly saves children from burning buildings.

yeah, it's pretty sad that Valve won't take chances. They take like 10 years to make a game engine and then milk that engine for years and years.

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Valve is just trying to DC the fact that they don't want to develop for anything other than the PC format and don't want to work on anything that doesn't involve their precious source engine since that'd be too much work.

Shafftehr

Basically. It bothers me that they do that yet are praised as if they are the greatest gaming company in the world who regularly saves children from burning buildings.

No, but when a developer refuses to work on certain platforms (I wouldn't count Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft considering they primarily make consoles so obviously wouldn't make products on a competitors console) and constantly hurls insults at a certain console, I don't think you can call them some unique butterfly that cares about gamers.

And Kojima is a hack.

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Basically. It bothers me that they do that yet are praised as if they are the greatest gaming company in the world who regularly saves children from burning buildings.

Pixel-Pirate

No, but when a developer refuses to work on certain platforms (I wouldn't count Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft considering they primarily make consoles so obviously wouldn't make products on a competitors console) and constantly hurls insults at a certain console, I don't think you can call them some unique butterfly that cares about gamers.

And Kojima is a hack.

Hopefully someone sticks a pitchfork into gearbox

Hopefully someone sticks a pitchfork into gearbox

scarface_dm

already a huge thread on this recently with childish antics and "lazy dev" attacks at valve

...all in all, they apparenly feel it just isnt a smart business move for them, which is absolutly ok

valve isnt as big of a company as some may believe(people wise)

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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] So is porting to all platforms a requirement for being an incredible developer now? If so, somebody better give Nintendo a call and tell them a stable of classics and industry shapers doesn't cut it any more - if they ain't devving for the PS3, they are teh suxxorz :o Oh, and better warn Kojima too - the Cows might turn on him if he doesn't port MGS4 to the 360 and PC, since he couldn't be a praised developer if he can't do that..Shafftehr

No, but when a developer refuses to work on certain platforms (I wouldn't count Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft considering they primarily make consoles so obviously wouldn't make products on a competitors console) and constantly hurls insults at a certain console, I don't think you can call them some unique butterfly that cares about gamers.

And Kojima is a hack.

Even if it is true it shows immaturity to do so. And I apologize, I simply always hear people talking about how Valve cares about it's customers which Is, In my opinion, bull. Valve cares about Money and would have no problem ripping you off to get that money, just like every company in gaming including Nintendo.

I personally don't hold Valve as a "legendary" dev team and I find their games bland and unoriginal, but that is my opinion.

Hopefully someone sticks a pitchfork into gearbox

scarface_dm

It would be nice if both of them wouldjust shut up and keep their opinions to themselves, and by that I mean don't go about trying to attract attention tothemselves. All it's going to do is wind some people up, give themselves alot of greif, and all because they felt they had to put their point across to the world. People say, "Well if it's a smart buisness choice then what's the problem?". It would havebeen an even smarter buisness choice if they didn't develop on the PS3 and at the same timehadn'teven bothered to mention it.

I don't mind what Valve do as long as they keep on making great PC-games.

Why do you cows cry so much about Valve? I don't see lemmings whining about ps3's third party exclusive devs..give it a rest :roll:DeadMagazines

Why do you cows cry so much about Valve? I don't see lemmings whining about ps3's third party exclusive devs..give it a rest :roll:DeadMagazines

He called it like anyone reasonable would see it. Valve isn't just trying to promote their games or the platforms the work with, they try to take swipes at the PS3 for no discernable reason. We see that behaviour all the time here in SW, and we call it fanboyism. Pitchford is just stating the obvious.

Valve owes nothing to the PS3 fanbase. This entitlement mentality has gotten absurd.

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No, but when a developer refuses to work on certain platforms (I wouldn't count Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft considering they primarily make consoles so obviously wouldn't make products on a competitors console) and constantly hurls insults at a certain console, I don't think you can call them some unique butterfly that cares about gamers.

And Kojima is a hack.

Pixel-Pirate

Even if it is true it shows immaturity to do so. And I apologize, I simply always hear people talking about how Valve cares about it's customers which Is, In my opinion, bull. Valve cares about Money and would have no problem ripping you off to get that money, just like every company in gaming including Nintendo.

I personally don't hold Valve as a "legendary" dev team and I find their games bland and unoriginal, but that is my opinion.

1. Actually Valve cares about it's customers much more than the other companies. How many devs or publishers continue to update their games even 2 years after its release? How about free content packs (with a ton of content)? Supporting mods and modders? Pricing their games accordingly?...

2. Every company cares abot money, show me one that doesn't. But there is one thing that developers (like a certain Activision) lack: moral integrity.

3. Valve has been one of the companies that introduced several great trends in gaming. So yeah, they are good developers.

who cares, valve can do whatever they want, I just dont get why they have to basically imply to the public that they hate the ps3johnlennon28

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Hopefully someone sticks a pitchfork into gearbox

siLVURcross

Valve sucks and so do there games. What they say is meaningless and shows they are not talented enough to develop for the PS3.djsifer01

[QUOTE="johnlennon28"]who cares, valve can do whatever they want, I just dont get why they have to basically imply to the public that they hate the ps3cainetao11

Always abondon a fanbase, right Valve?RadecSupreme

Yeah! How dare they run their business the way they want!

boo frickin hoo pitchford, maybe there should be a little less crying about other devs decisions and a little more wondering why the hell borderlands was outsold on the ps3 by 3 to 1

you would think job one for any exec these days would be trying to max out profit and expand your brand not worry about somebody elses profitability stratagy

I'm sure Valve cares deeply (not really). I feel as though the fanbase that isn't interested makes more stink and conflict than the devs do themselves.

Well, while I do think it'd be nice to see Valve develop for the ps3. It's not that big a deal. They can do what they want. And wtf is up with Pitchford all up on Valves case. I mean seriously. What is the connection? It seems he is mentioned in every Valve topic ever talked about for the past year. IMO Pitchford can talk trash when he makes a co-op 4 player game nearly as good as L4D. Personally, L4D(2) >>>>>>>>> Borderlands.

ya you tell em pitchford or who ever you are. left for dead sucks.

lol sony is bigger then valve, just because sony doesnt let them into the loop valve keeps hating, they are just small time a couple of college students that made only 1 thing.Casual_Gamer_

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Please tell me your knowledge of Valve extends beyond what you may or may not have heard about Portal's original dev team before Valve hired them.... They practically saved the FPS genre from stagnation back in the 90's have put out some of the best campaigns, competitive multiplayer and co-op experiences along with one of the best puzzle experiences ever and you say that?

It is Gabe Newell's business if he doesn't want to develop on PS3 but saying things that aren't true is just as bad.

Valve wouldn't know how to make a good game for the PS3 if Naught Gods gave Valve the Uncharted 2 game engine itself.

yeah it really sucks that Naughty Dog won't make games for the 360....er...wait...wrong discussion;)

Let Valve keep hating while they watch everyone else pile up on money because of PS3 software sales. :wink:jakarai