Gears Of War 2 will flop.

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#1 credibilityzero
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Let me have the honor to justify my prediction with some logical reasons.

Let us compare the first game to the second.

Graphically it doesn't look much better, in a matter of fact it looks worse because it will be more open than the first which is good but bad for graphics.

Gameplay it is almost the same, taking hostage in shooter game is pointless there is no need for this feature at all, it will be useless so they are adding some useless gimmicks to make people believe that is better than the first game.

Something reviewers made no comment about is the environment, it looks the same in the first gears and it looks the same in the second game, going from location to another doesn't change much, they should make some variety in locations.

Adding only one more player for the online is not an achievement unlocked.

They are adding a story and this is the only thing that will be new to the game.

AA for this game.

What do you think?

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#2 shahchip
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So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

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#3 Jakendo
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So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

shahchip

I hate math >:(

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#4 Ilived
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I think it'll flop just because it's the same damn thing and because EPIC doesn't know how to make a good sequel lately.
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#5 lawlessx
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whatever you say

in terms of graphics and visuals i see a nice improvement and the same thing goes for it's gameplay and muiplayer. i would make a more serious attempt at this poor excuse of a flamebait,but in the end it never really gets anywhere.

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#6 Microsoft1234
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if u want to talk about gameplay the little tweaks are major adjustments and anyone who has played the first know how great stopping power (person slows down getting shot) can impact the game.
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#7 too_much_eslim
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I wish you put more thought in a topic before you decide to pst it.
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#8 Il_Exile_lI
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So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

shahchip

WHAT?????

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#9 shahchip
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[QUOTE="shahchip"]

So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

Il_Exile_lI

WHAT?????


A good game + Good new features = Bad sequel?

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#10 credibilityzero
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I wish you put more thought in a topic before you decide to pst it.too_much_eslim

I wish you explain more to know what you didn't agree with.

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#11 credibilityzero
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[QUOTE="Il_Exile_lI"][QUOTE="shahchip"]

So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

shahchip

WHAT?????


A good game + Good new features = Bad sequel?

What are the good new features?

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#12 strudel420
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I want to see it flop if only for the madness that would follow afterwards.

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#13 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="shahchip"]

[QUOTE="Il_Exile_lI"][QUOTE="shahchip"]

So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

credibilityzero

WHAT?????


A good game + Good new features = Bad sequel?

What are the good new features?

almost all the game playing modes (it was just deathmatch in the first one to be blunt) , the tweaks in gameplay, the matchmaking vs. lobby, etc.

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#14 shahchip
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[QUOTE="shahchip"]

[QUOTE="Il_Exile_lI"][QUOTE="shahchip"]

So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

credibilityzero

WHAT?????


A good game + Good new features = Bad sequel?

What are the good new features?

I dunno but every gears of war fan keeps saying it improves on the first game so i guess it should have some new features

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#15 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="shahchip"]

[QUOTE="Il_Exile_lI"][QUOTE="shahchip"]

So are you saying

Solve: A = Good points

5/etc. A = Gears of War 1 = Gooooooooooooooooooood

5A + 3A/etc. = Gears of Flop 2 = Nooooooooooooooooo?

credibilityzero

WHAT?????


A good game + Good new features = Bad sequel?

What are the good new features?

party system+ matchmaking and the 5 online co-op mode(horde mode)

thats two off the top of my head.

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#16 The_Game21x
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Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I wish you put more thought in a topic before you decide to pst it.credibilityzero

I wish you explain more to know what you didn't agree with.

Your reasoning is flawed. Gears2 does not look worse than Gears 1. Also they refined the gameplay to give it a much better experience. They fixed all the problems from the first game and added new modes. If MGS4 can get a 10 then Gears2 can get AAA even if it is just a 9.0.
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#18 ChiSoxBombers
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i enjoyed your arguement not
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#19 too_much_eslim
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lawlessx what anime is that in your sig?
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#20 lawlessx
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Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

The_Game21x

LIES! ALL LIES I TELL YOU!

:roll:

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#21 sakura_Ex
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I want to see it flop if only for the madness that would follow afterwards.

strudel420

SW would be shut down for a month if that happened.

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#22 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

lawlessx

LIES! ALL LIES I TELL YOU!

:roll:

lawlessx what anime is that in your sig?
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#23 Ilived
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

lawlessx

LIES! ALL LIES I TELL YOU!

:roll:

It depends on how much better it looks really. Or else it will go unnoticeable. It's cool if it will be much crisper than the original since the original was kinda blurry, but if not much is improved then what's there to brag about? Nothing.

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#24 lawlessx
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lawlessx what anime is that in your sig?too_much_eslim

code geass

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#25 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]lawlessx what anime is that in your sig?lawlessx

code geass

thankyou off to watch some anime now.
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#26 mephisto_11
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gears of war 2 has the same chance of flopping as a bear learning to read english.
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#27 Espada12
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]lawlessx what anime is that in your sig?lawlessx

code geass

Never seen that anime but had an idea it was that... don't ask me why put I've been hearing more and more about it lately, I should go look it up.

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#28 credibilityzero
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Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

The_Game21x

Well I have eyes and I didn't see improvements, I can post a screenshot just to show you how awful looking the game became.

And how about the environment? do you really think they presented the game well enough for people in their videos? because all I saw is Gears 1 with little bit open world.

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#29 Microsoft1234
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

credibilityzero

Well I have eyes and I didn't see improvements, I can post a screenshot just to show you how awful looking the game became.

And how about the environment? do you really think they presented the game well enough for people in their videos? because all I saw is Gears 1 with little bit open world.

alright stop, no matter what people say most of the time (and in this case) the games of this gen don't look awful, gears doesn't look awful at all, u need to get ur eyes checked.

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#30 credibilityzero
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[QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I wish you put more thought in a topic before you decide to pst it.too_much_eslim

I wish you explain more to know what you didn't agree with.

Your reasoning is flawed. Gears 2 does not look worse than Gears 1. Also they refined the gameplay to give it a much better experience. They fixed all the problems from the first game and added new modes. If MGS4 can get a 10 then Gears2 can get AAA even if it is just a 9.0.

The game does look worse, this thread needs a screenshot to remind people.

As for the gameplay, just like I said, adding more players online is alot better experience than adding new modes, don't you think?

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[QUOTE="credibilityzero"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

Microsoft1234

Well I have eyes and I didn't see improvements, I can post a screenshot just to show you how awful looking the game became.

And how about the environment? do you really think they presented the game well enough for people in their videos? because all I saw is Gears 1 with little bit open world.

alright stop, no matter what people say most of the time (and in this case) the games of this gen don't look awful, gears doesn't look awful at all, u need to get ur eyes checked.

i actually agree it looks awful.

/sarcasm

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Do you want to make a bet? Oh wait, that's illegal around here now right?

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I wish you put more thought in a topic before you decide to pst it.credibilityzero

I wish you explain more to know what you didn't agree with.

Your reasoning is flawed. Gears 2 does not look worse than Gears 1. Also they refined the gameplay to give it a much better experience. They fixed all the problems from the first game and added new modes. If MGS4 can get a 10 then Gears2 can get AAA even if it is just a 9.0.

The game does look worse, this thread needs a screenshot to remind people.

As for the gameplay, just like I said, adding more players online is alot better experience than adding new modes, don't you think?

good thing Epic did both :|

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I wish you put more thought in a topic before you decide to pst it.credibilityzero

I wish you explain more to know what you didn't agree with.

Your reasoning is flawed. Gears 2 does not look worse than Gears 1. Also they refined the gameplay to give it a much better experience. They fixed all the problems from the first game and added new modes. If MGS4 can get a 10 then Gears2 can get AAA even if it is just a 9.0.

The game does look worse, this thread needs a screenshot to remind people.

As for the gameplay, just like I said, adding more players online is alot better experience than adding new modes, don't you think?

wow not at all adding more people helps in some cases, but for the most part just ruins the experience, example tf2-having 16 people is way too many, but 12 or 10 is the right amount, on the other hand new modes create even more replay......id rather be able to play ctf, king of the hill, etc then have to play deathmatch every time although gears 1 did that very nicely

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#35 pakman3000
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Cows wish they had Gears. Instead they have RFoM and act like that is in leagues with Gears. Both releasing same week. Let's see what happens reviews and sales wise.
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#36 rolo107
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I hope you think Killzone 2 will flop too.... Otherwise, I hate you. >.>
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#37 Fumpa
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I see where you're coming from TC, but many other games have used the same formula for follow up titles and received good reviews.

But I can see it as a possibility. Also, maybe the games these days are truly sucking, or maybe Gamespot is starting to lay down some law with their reviews and not pull any punches. If the latter is true then the odds of it flopping increase.

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#38 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

credibilityzero

Well I have eyes and I didn't see improvements, I can post a screenshot just to show you how awful looking the game became.

And how about the environment? do you really think they presented the game well enough for people in their videos? because all I saw is Gears 1 with little bit open world.

I've seen several Gears of War 2 videos, both show off impressive effects, a smoother framerate and a much more active war zone with far more enemies on screen at any given time than in Gears 1. The environments are even more detailed and show off much better draw distances than the first.

All of that adds up to a much better looking game overall. Feel free to post any screenshots you want, just don't go cherry-picking the worst possible screenshot to prove your point, I've grown tired of that.

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I think Gears 2 could possibly even get a 10.

Yes, I said, Gears 2 could get a 10. If not a 10, no lower than 9.5.

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#41 nicknees93
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your opinion.
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#42 mephisto_11
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anyone else notice the irony in the tc's username?
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#43 Floppy_Jim
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No, it won't. Fable 2 might, but not Gears.
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#44 lawlessx
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anyone else notice the irony in the tc's username?mephisto_11

how can you not?

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#45 credibilityzero
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[QUOTE="credibilityzero"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

Microsoft1234

Well I have eyes and I didn't see improvements, I can post a screenshot just to show you how awful looking the game became.

And how about the environment? do you really think they presented the game well enough for people in their videos? because all I saw is Gears 1 with little bit open world.

alright stop, no matter what people say most of the time (and in this case) the games of this gen don't look awful, gears doesn't look awful at all, u need to get ur eyes checked.

It is awful compared to Gears 1.

gears of war

gears of war 2

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I don't care what this game gets. It's going to be one of the three games I'm getting on the day of release.
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#47 lawlessx
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nice job looking for a terrible shot of gears of war 2..

nobody here saw that coming :roll:

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#48 mephisto_11
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="credibilityzero"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Despite the multiple previews that have been written stating how Gears of War 2 looks even better than the first, you honestly think it's logical to assume that it'll look worse?

Forgive me if I can't see the logic anywhere in that assumption.

credibilityzero

Well I have eyes and I didn't see improvements, I can post a screenshot just to show you how awful looking the game became.

And how about the environment? do you really think they presented the game well enough for people in their videos? because all I saw is Gears 1 with little bit open world.

alright stop, no matter what people say most of the time (and in this case) the games of this gen don't look awful, gears doesn't look awful at all, u need to get ur eyes checked.

It is awful compared to Gears 1.

dude seriously

buy some glasses

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#49 carljohnson3456
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nice job looking for a terrible shot of gears of war 2..

nobody here saw that coming :roll:

lawlessx

:lol: I dont even think that screen looks bad.. I think it looks great actually, and much better than that Gears 1 screen.

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#50 credibilityzero
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nice job looking for a terrible shot of gears of war 2..

nobody here saw that coming :roll:

lawlessx

OMG how can you say that? I was searching carefully just to not let anyone say something like this, ok?