Gears of War: Horrible Plot

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#1 dracolich55
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Hey, I have never actually finished the gears of war campaigns untill last week... and all I got to say is wow, just wow... is it just me or is the gears of war plot kinda... bad? Personally I very do much enjoy the story in a game, how the hell is gears going to compete with uncharted with THIS garbadge of a plot? and I know graphics, gameplay, sound etc matter too but IMO Uncharted was good in most of these aspects including story.... how will meatheads on steroids compete with uncharted in the story department?

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#2 FoolwithaLancer
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Uncharted doesn't have a good story, what are you talking about. :?

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#3 SteamedBennet
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Uncharted's a great series. But the story is incredibly bland and cliche.

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What is it about?

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#5 mmmwksil
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TC's first mistake was playing Gears of War for the story. TC's second mistake was expecting a good story.

You shoot things. You chainsaw through things. That's why you play Gears.

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It's a game about chainsawing people in half. C'mon.
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#7 MozartXVI
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since when did uncharted have good story? :lol:

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I think TC is getting confused between story and storytelling..

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#9 mrmusicman247
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The Uncharted series doesn't have stories. They have great storyTELLING. I enjoy the stories anyways.
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#10 KevinPlanet
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The plot to Gears of War isn't good, and the dialogue is terrible. The gameplay and graphics makes up for it completely

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#11 DJ-Lafleur
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Seeing as how the thing that makes Gears of War popular is the fact that it attached a chainsaw to a gun, that's not much of a shocker.

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#12 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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No? I was expecting visual novel quality.
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Seeing as how the thing that makes Gears of War popular is the fact that it attached a chainsaw to a gun, that's not much of a shocker.

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This, also I prefer Gears when it didn't take itself seriously (gears 2 Dominic drama :cry: ) Hope they don't go that rout again.
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#14 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6CXXPbVyFQ&feature=related

^That more than makes up for the plot :]

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#15 DarkLink77
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Uncharted has good stories now? When did this happen?

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#16 FoolwithaLancer
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Seeing as how the thing that makes Gears of War popular is the fact that it attached a chainsaw to a gun, that's not much of a shocker.

lbjkurono23

This, also I prefer Gears when it didn't take itself seriously (gears 2 Dominic drama :cry: ) Hope they don't go that rout again.

They're focusing on characters this time, Last time they were trying to dig deep in the characters emotions, (and imo failed) Now they're basically going to get into the Characters back story.

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I personally find Gears of War's plot to be very good, short of great. The problem is how taxing it is for the gamer to get into it because it's more detailed in books, and the devs don't care about it in 3/4's of the cutscene. When I made it to Act 3 and understood the backstory, I instantly thought they had a good enviromentalism side to it. I'm sure everyones disappointed in the bad dialogue/melodrama, but don't mistake that for a "horrible plot". Kind of have to question what you define as good plots if you're making it compete against Uncharted.
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#18 lbjkurono23
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^That more than makes up for the plot :]

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I'll probably skip all the cut scene and focus on the game :3. I can't wait to take on horde 2.0 =D

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neither game has good story. what have you been playing?
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I think TC is getting confused between story and storytelling..

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As do most people. :(

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#21 TrapJak
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Uncharted has good stories now? When did this happen?

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You're late, dammit.

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I'll probably skip all the cut scene and focus on the game :3. I can't wait to take on horde 2.0 =Dlbjkurono23

I wasn't too excited about it, but recently I rediscovered Horde playing with AdobeArtist, Ravensmash, PatchMaster and ZippySlappy.

Having a good team of bros, Horde is simply terrific.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Uncharted has good stories now? When did this happen?

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You're late, dammit.

I was out getting dinner. :P
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The Uncharted series doesn't have stories. They have great storyTELLING. I enjoy the stories anyways. mrmusicman247

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

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Nah man, it has a pretty good plot. I'd say that Unreal Tournament 2004 has an even better storyline though.
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] The Uncharted series doesn't have stories. They have great storyTELLING. I enjoy the stories anyways. xYamatox

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.
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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] The Uncharted series doesn't have stories. They have great storyTELLING. I enjoy the stories anyways. DarkLink77

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.

I second this.
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um I liked gears plot there is alot of story there if you pay attention..maybe you should have took the time to look around, listen to what people were saying instead of ignoring or skipping cutscenes and spending most of your time chain sawing enemies.

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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] The Uncharted series doesn't have stories. They have great storyTELLING. I enjoy the stories anyways. DarkLink77

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.

The Godfather is an overrated & poorly paced mess. Sorry, DL.

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Do people play games for the plot?

any MW2 players care to answer?

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

mmmwksil

I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.

The Godfather is an overrated & poorly paced mess. Sorry, DL.

Um... no. Just... just no. The pacing in the middle drags somewhat, but other than that the film is pretty much perfect. Thought I would argue that it wasn't Coppola's best film, either.

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wait, it has a plot?

i co-op'd through it, for me the plot was "dude... dude! shoot that one!"

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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] The Uncharted series doesn't have stories. They have great storyTELLING. I enjoy the stories anyways. DarkLink77

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.

Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

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Gears of war 4 should focus on a wretch named Mr. Wretch who gets enslaved by humans and forced to walk around parks with a leash on. A red leash.
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It's only horrible if you take it seriously. It's just a fun game with kick ass action and cool freak enemies.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

xYamatox

I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.

Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

Because it is. The acting is excellent, the script is amazing, and Coppola's direction was incredible. People don't make three hour dramas anymore (largely). The market has just changed. And no, story and story telling are two completely different things. They impact each other, but bad storytelling does not diminish the merits of the story itself.
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And Uncharted has a bland and predictable story with two dimensional characters that spout one liners. People seem to think that since it's as cinematic as a movie that the story is as good as one.

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Gears of War has a terrible story. The plot is meh and the story telling is horrendous.

Uncharted 1/2 have bad stories but they do entertain a bit.

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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.DarkLink77

Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

Because it is. The acting is excellent, the script is amazing, and Coppola's direction was incredible. People don't make three hour dramas anymore (largely). The market has just changed. And no, story and story telling are two completely different things. They impact each other, but bad storytelling does not diminish the merits of the story itself.

Then I have to ask what are some examples of a good story, and an example of good story telling. Because every "good story" i can think of is only good because of how the story was executed, and not for what it is.

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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.DarkLink77

Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

Because it is. The acting is excellent, the script is amazing, and Coppola's direction was incredible. People don't make three hour dramas anymore (largely). The market has just changed. And no, story and story telling are two completely different things. They impact each other, but bad storytelling does not diminish the merits of the story itself.

Bayonetta is an example. Pretty good story, but the way they told the story was severly out of place. Same with FF13.

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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I gotta ask, when you get past all the fluff of it all, do the differences REALLY matter? It seems like NOTHING in this day and age has a good story according to the masses (retro-!@#s). Heck, if they released the Godfather tomorrow for the first time ever, I wouldn't even be suprised if people said it had a terrible story, just good story telling....

I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.

Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

Times haven't really changed when it comes to delivering Art films like The Godfather, it's just that they're rarely released beyond selected theaters. Don't kid yourself about storytelling and story being the same.
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Times haven't really changed when it comes to delivering Art films like The Godfather, it's just that they're rarely released beyond selected theaters. Don't kid yourself about storytelling and story being the same. moose_knuckler

I would say that a story is a combination of presentation and plot.

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#44 xYamatox
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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I doubt it. The Godfather is a masterpiece.moose_knuckler

Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

Times haven't really changed when it comes to delivering Art films like The Godfather, it's just that they're rarely released beyond selected theaters. Don't kid yourself about storytelling and story being the same.

The "no you're just wrong" arguement doesn't really fly with me. How about explaining it, perhaps?

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#45 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

The Godfather is an overrated & poorly paced mess. Sorry, DL.

DarkLink77

Um... no. Just... just no. The pacing in the middle drags somewhat, but other than that the film is pretty much perfect. Thought I would argue that it wasn't Coppola's best film, either.

The entire movie felt so drawn out. I don't deny the story is great, but I think people heap praise on it solely because others do. As for being Coppola's best film, I normally don't pick one film out of a director's credentials and claim it the best, but I enjoy Dracula and Scarface a lot more than Godfather (the former because I love the book, the latter because I grew up hearing stories of Miami in the 80s from my family, so the movie appealed).

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

Times haven't really changed when it comes to delivering Art films like The Godfather, it's just that they're rarely released beyond selected theaters. Don't kid yourself about storytelling and story being the same.

I would say that a story is a combination of presentation and plot.

Presentation is coupled with storytelling, not the story.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

xYamatox

Because it is. The acting is excellent, the script is amazing, and Coppola's direction was incredible. People don't make three hour dramas anymore (largely). The market has just changed. And no, story and story telling are two completely different things. They impact each other, but bad storytelling does not diminish the merits of the story itself.

Then I have to ask what are some examples of a good story, and an example of good story telling. Because every "good story" i can think of is only good because of how the story was executed, and not for what it is.

I'm going to pull examples of literature on this one. Good story: Heart of Darkness. Heart of Darkness' storytelling is not what makes the story special. Conrad's writing style can be very daunting to handle. The plot itself, though, and the themes it deals with, are incredibly complex. Good storytelling: Dracula. Dracula has a pretty good plot, but what makes the book special is the way it's told: through newspaper clippings, diary entries, ship's logs, etc. Stroker's storyetlling elevates an already good story to a great one.
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Why? Because people back in the day said it was and the new generation ate it up, or because it really is, even by today's standards?

I'm not saying that the Godfather isn't worthy of it's mass appeal (I love the movie), but movies like that don't just stop happening because, "times have changed". I feel story telling and story are one in the same.

When you look at the Godfather's story, it's basically a the story of a man who must take on his father's footsteps. That's pretty much it. It's the way the story is delivered that actually impacts whether the story is good or not.

Times haven't really changed when it comes to delivering Art films like The Godfather, it's just that they're rarely released beyond selected theaters. Don't kid yourself about storytelling and story being the same.

The "no you're just wrong" arguement doesn't really fly with me. How about explaining it, perhaps?

Google the words "story" and "storytelling" and you'll be presented with two different answers. That's the best way I can explain it to you.
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The Godfather is an overrated & poorly paced mess. Sorry, DL.

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Um... no. Just... just no. The pacing in the middle drags somewhat, but other than that the film is pretty much perfect. Thought I would argue that it wasn't Coppola's best film, either.

The entire movie felt so drawn out. I don't deny the story is great, but I think people heap praise on it solely because others do. As for being Coppola's best film, I normally don't pick one film out of a director's credentials and claim it the best, but I enjoy Dracula and Scarface a lot more than Godfather (the former because I love the book, the latter because I grew up hearing stories of Miami in the 80s from my family, so the movie appealed).

I'll criticize the film where it needs to be criticized (the middle), but I think the overall package more than makes up for it. I liked his version of Dracula, but my favorite Coppola film is easily Apocalypse Now.
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The Godfather is an overrated & poorly paced mess. Sorry, DL.

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Um... no. Just... just no. The pacing in the middle drags somewhat, but other than that the film is pretty much perfect. Thought I would argue that it wasn't Coppola's best film, either.

The entire movie felt so drawn out. I don't deny the story is great, but I think people heap praise on it solely because others do. As for being Coppola's best film, I normally don't pick one film out of a director's credentials and claim it the best, but I enjoy Dracula and Scarface a lot more than Godfather (the former because I love the book, the latter because I grew up hearing stories of Miami in the 80s from my family, so the movie appealed).

The Godfather is pretty drawn out but I think that is part of what makes it good. Scarface is about him going from nothing to somebody to dead in a short amount of time, so compared to the godfather it feels a lot faster.While the Godfather is all about plans slowly falling into place and gives a great sense of drama.

Both are great films but this is a litle off topic.