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#1 RedMarzBoy
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OK. I knew Halo 3 was going to be HUGE but still... :shock:There's like so few matches of Gears of War on any setting. Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? 
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#2 Mizarus
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so you wont lag while you play.
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#3 laughingman42
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Thats because Gear's multiplayer sucked (IMO) and now that Halo3 is out people have a much better multiplayer shooter to play.
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#4 Vasichko
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Gears was the only game online that I think is easier than Halo. Noobs have another game that is easy to pick up and win at, so they are taking the bait.
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#5 Velocitas8
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Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? RedMarzBoy

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo. That MIGHT justify my $5 a month.

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#6 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? Velocitas8

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo.

they should, but again p2p is free to them, thats one of the mains reasons i cant understand why they still charge for live.

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#7 BioShockOwnz
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Hmmm, my friends are still playing GeoW and the online community is huge. MS has the triple threat on XBL with Halo 3, GeoW, and COD4.
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#8 Velocitas8
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they should, but again p2p is free to them, thats one of the mains reasons i cant understand why they still charge for live.Mizarus

Exactly.

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#9 RedMarzBoy
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[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? Velocitas8

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo. That MIGHT justify my $5 a month.

OK I never though id say this, but i'm so spoiled with PSN then. I'm used to my downloads being ready by the time im done playing or doing whatever i am. Granted they do take longer, but im playing in the meantime.
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#10 Mizarus
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[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? RedMarzBoy

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo. That MIGHT justify my $5 a month.

OK I never though id say this, but i'm so spoiled with PSN then. I'm used to my downloads being ready by the time im done playing or doing whatever i am. Granted they do take longer, but im playing in the meantime.

playng online games, and downloading stuff using p2p at the same time, you would get around 2-3 second delays(very likely) maybe more

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#11 zero9167
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my bro said there was 500,000 people online in halo when he was playing earlier.... :shock:
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#12 RedMarzBoy
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Hmmm, my friends are still playing GeoW and the online community is huge. MS has the triple threat on XBL with Halo 3, GeoW, and COD4.BioShockOwnz
I was just online. Anyways I got live a day a ago so still need to get my buddies from school/work online tags. Maybe then it will be better, but i need to finish the fight first.
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#13 vickissv2
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almost everything ( except madden 08) is dead online for xbox 360
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#14 RedMarzBoy
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my bro said there was 500,000 people online in halo when he was playing earlier.... :shock:zero9167
Yeah I wouldn't doubt it.8)
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#15 Vasichko
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Hey thats great! MS low balling customers. They are using P2P so they dont have to pay for a decent backbone for XBL. They enjoy charging $60 annually and getting 6 inches deep in everyone that pays it....
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#16 dobbywii
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looks likke halo is killing third party games again like last generation
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#17 laughingman42
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looks likke halo is killing third party games again like last generationdobbywii

I'm pretty sure gears is 2nd party.

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#18 TREAL_Since
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Gears was the only game online that I think is easier than Halo. Noobs have another game that is easy to pick up and win at, so they are taking the bait.Vasichko

I disagree. a n00b can't just pick up a 360 controller and compete in Gears online.

Halo 3, while complex in ways, is much more of a casual friendly game. Mainly due to it being an FPS with tight controls.

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#19 Gamingcucumber
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[QUOTE="dobbywii"]looks likke halo is killing third party games again like last generationlaughingman42

I'm pretty sure gears is 2nd party.

Epic?

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#20 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="dobbywii"]looks likke halo is killing third party games again like last generationGamingcucumber

I'm pretty sure gears is 2nd party.

Epic?

published by microsoft.

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[QUOTE="Vasichko"]Gears was the only game online that I think is easier than Halo. Noobs have another game that is easy to pick up and win at, so they are taking the bait.TREAL_Since

I disagree. a n00b can't just pick up a 360 controller and compete in Gears online.

Halo 3, while complex in ways, is much more of a casual friendly game. Mainly due to it being an FPS with tight controls.

Yeah, whenever I play Gears on a friend's 360 they absolutely slaughter me. Halo is also easier because it controls similarly to most other FPS's (to be fair, that's because most other FPSs are Halo ripoffs). Whereas Gears has a more unique control scheme.

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#22 II-FBIsniper-II
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It might be because of the 1,500,000 people that played halo 3 in the past 24 hours.
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#23 daveg1
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it was expected...

im sure your dl's start again once your game has loaded...but if your playing on-line the answer is obviouse...

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#24 jwsoul
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Good god im sure Halo is great but for the sake of you XBox Owners i really hope people start playing other games online soon! Man am i glad i own a PC talk about choice.
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#25 RonnieLottinSF
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Hmmm, my friends are still playing GeoW and the online community is huge. MS has the triple threat on XBL with Halo 3, GeoW, and COD4.BioShockOwnz

Don't forget TF2 as well. XBL sales should sky rocket this holiday.

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#26 zero_snake99
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Thats because Gear's multiplayer sucked (IMO) and now that Halo3 is out people have a much better multiplayer shooter to play.laughingman42

Gears sucked in general, only thing good were the graphics. It was way overrated.

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[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? RedMarzBoy

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo. That MIGHT justify my $5 a month.

OK I never though id say this, but i'm so spoiled with PSN then. I'm used to my downloads being ready by the time im done playing or doing whatever i am. Granted they do take longer, but im playing in the meantime.

PS3 downloads pause when you play games online too.
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#28 Solid_Max13
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I never could stand Glitch of Wars online it really sucked for me i loved single player buty multiplayer ruined it for me, Halo's a lot better and easier. But so far from what i've seen even COD4 beat is empty =|
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[QUOTE="Mizarus"]they should, but again p2p is free to them, thats one of the mains reasons i cant understand why they still charge for live.Velocitas8

Exactly.

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[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? Velocitas8

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo. That MIGHT justify my $5 a month.

lmao.

link buddy, please. everything i've read about xbl indicates it is not a P2P network. they do use P2P for multi games, but i'm nearly 100% positive they use servers for content downloads. actually i am 100% positive.

P2P for content just wouldn't work especially without end-user consent. I monitor my 360 traffic and I NEVER see it silently hosting or uploading content when it idles, so i'm sorry - but you fail.

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Hmmm, my friends are still playing GeoW and the online community is huge. MS has the triple threat on XBL with Halo 3, GeoW, and COD4.BioShockOwnz

So we are all lieing when we say that you get like 3 games come out when you press on ranked, and warzone? Its dead.

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#32 WithoutGraceXII
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to be honest, i never liked GeOW multiplayer anyway
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#35 OhhSnap50893
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GRAW better still be kicking. :x
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#37 NECR0CHILD313
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Halo is also easier because it controls similarly to most other FPS's (to be fair, that's because most other FPSs are Halo ripoffs).

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OK. I knew Halo 3 was going to be HUGE but still... :shock:There's like so few matches of Gears of War on any setting. Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? RedMarzBoy

Meanwhile, Rainbow Six Vegas has barely taken a hit and the community is noticably better since most of the asshats have dashed to the idiot magnet that is Halo 3 (no offense to the majority of HL3 players but you know its true). Now if only people actually downloaded the map packs...

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Vasichko"]Gears was the only game online that I think is easier than Halo. Noobs have another game that is easy to pick up and win at, so they are taking the bait.chutup

I disagree. a n00b can't just pick up a 360 controller and compete in Gears online.

Halo 3, while complex in ways, is much more of a casual friendly game. Mainly due to it being an FPS with tight controls.

Yeah, whenever I play Gears on a friend's 360 they absolutely slaughter me. Halo is also easier because it controls similarly to most other FPS's (to be fair, that's because most other FPSs are Halo ripoffs). Whereas Gears has a more unique control scheme.

lmao "Halo rip offs"! You made my day!

Please give me one example of a "Halo rip off" and please don't say COD4 since they just took the menu system and if that's a rip off then you might as well say Halo ripped off PC/Sega for having online play..

GRAW better still be kicking. :xOhhSnap50893

Actually Graw 2 has taken a noticable hit since I couldn't find a single Deathmatch server that was 50% filled, but TDM modes are still alive and kicking.

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Halo 3's multiplayer is a lot better suited for networked play than Gears of War, which felt horrible a times. Of course, I have to figure this "Open NAT" problem out. Anyone know how to enable UPnP? Not sure if my router supports it.
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Vasichko"]Gears was the only game online that I think is easier than Halo. Noobs have another game that is easy to pick up and win at, so they are taking the bait.chutup

I disagree. a n00b can't just pick up a 360 controller and compete in Gears online.

Halo 3, while complex in ways, is much more of a casual friendly game. Mainly due to it being an FPS with tight controls.

Yeah, whenever I play Gears on a friend's 360 they absolutely slaughter me. Halo is also easier because it controls similarly to most other FPS's (to be fair, that's because most other FPSs are Halo ripoffs). Whereas Gears has a more unique control scheme.

or maybe its that gears controls are horrible for online play? IMO they are sluggish and unresponsive online. halo 3 has better online because of the controls and solely for that reason.

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[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? Huff

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo. That MIGHT justify my $5 a month.

OK I never though id say this, but i'm so spoiled with PSN then. I'm used to my downloads being ready by the time im done playing or doing whatever i am. Granted they do take longer, but im playing in the meantime.

PS3 downloads pause when you play games online too.

Well, that has to be a choice of your own, because when i played online after school today i downloaded the Graw 2 demo, and it came up when i played Resistance online: "Download complete" or what it says, but you get the point...

And no i'm not lying:)

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#42 cj2121
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I don't know about gears online, but people are still playing Halo 2. I was able to play 30 plus matches or so.

I really need to get a 360.:(

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#43 lawlessx
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OK. I knew Halo 3 was going to be HUGE but still... :shock:There's like so few matches of Gears of War on any setting. Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game?RedMarzBoy

same thing happened when halo2 came out;give it afew weeks and people will start playing both games.

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All of the Gears fans are Halo fans.
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All of the Gears fans are Halo fans.
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#46 darklord888
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my bro said there was 500,000 people online in halo when he was playing earlier.... :shock:zero9167


I saw just under 700,000 yesterday. That's insane!

I don't care about gears of war anymore. The game got boring quickly it needed bigger online than just 4vs4.
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#47 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]Also why do xbox live Demo downloads stop whenever I play a game? Velocitas8

Because XBL downloads use a peer-to-peer file transfer protocol that uses massive amounts of packet transfer. Playing online while downloading a file would likely result in tons of packet loss/lag.

Microsoft should put up standard FTP-transfer file servers instead of using that garbage imo. That MIGHT justify my $5 a month.

If it is p2p transfer then the more people downloading == more uploading, but why is it that when a great demo is realease,like bioshock, it downloads super slow. is it becuz torrents use different type of p2p. where everyone shares.is so MS need to used torrents to distrupute demos on live.

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I never could stand Glitch of Wars online it really sucked for me i loved single player buty multiplayer ruined it for me, Halo's a lot better and easier. But so far from what i've seen even COD4 beat is empty =|Solid_Max13

/agree

The online is pure garbage.

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#49 ChrisMun
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Halo 3's multiplayer is a lot better suited for networked play than Gears of War, which felt horrible a times. Of course, I have to figure this "Open NAT" problem out. Anyone know how to enable UPnP? Not sure if my router supports it.JLuke360

What type of router you got?

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#50 clone01
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Gears was the only game online that I think is easier than Halo. Noobs have another game that is easy to pick up and win at, so they are taking the bait.Vasichko

if that's the case, then i'm sure you must be the #1 gears/halo player in the world.